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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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tnai9 wrote:alma1 wrote:I now believe this is a made up story at one of those media houses. Someone looking for a juicy story for the weekend. Huyu jamaaa ana ringa sana that he pays fees but can't seem to find out where his kid is? Where do they stay? Where does the wife work? Where does the husband of the wife work? Where do the other kids go to school? Ama aliens took them? Kweli huyu jamaa ni jinga ya aina gani? This is a fake story...And thanks tnai9 you made wazua fun for a few days.  @Alma The guy has some friends CIDs etc and think is in the process of establishing where the girl has been transferred to. This is a true story, in fact I have given a lot of private info about him without his permission. He says the several times he has mpesad the X, the hubby calls shortly later to abuse him and ask why he is sending his wife money. He knows where they stay but not the specific hse, he knows where the X works but of course cant call her, either the call is not picked or the X's hubby picks and throws insults. He is planning on going to her place of work. So you can imagine the situation...as I said its a forest Forgive me for not believing you at all. Why would the CID be involved in this? What's the crime here? Kama ni mtu wakupatia watu hongo then I don't like him even more. Swenani is not talking about spying...Just common sense....Why involve the CID here? Why not take your mluhya father, Swenani and the elders to the parents of the daughter? Some of these things are solved over a cup of mursk.. Boss this story is fake. There can't seriously be a grown man who can behave like this There are options for a man who can't see their daughter 1. Go to court and show cause - My friend it had better be better than sijui viatu zimeraruka...kweli who's kid doesn't have torn shoes? 2. Talk nicely to the step father and the mom 3. Leave that family alone and wait until the daughter is 18 so he can buy her another mobile phone Hii ingine honestly is just a fellow with serious emotional issues. I actually pity his current wife. Even though its still a fake story. But its thus far the best story on wazua 2017 Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/21/2010 Posts: 345 Location: easto
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alma1 wrote:Why would the CID be involved in this? What's the crime here? Kama ni mtu wakupatia watu hongo then I don't like him even more. Swenani is not talking about spying...Just common sense....Why involve the CID here? Why not take your mluhya father, Swenani and the elders to the parents of the daughter? Some of these things are solved over a cup of mursk.. Boss this story is fake. There can't seriously be a grown man who can behave like this There are options for a man who can't see their daughter 1. Go to court and show cause - My friend it had better be better than sijui viatu zimeraruka...kweli who's kid doesn't have torn shoes? 2. Talk nicely to the step father and the mom 3. Leave that family alone and wait until the daughter is 18 so he can buy her another mobile phone Hii ingine honestly is just a fellow with serious emotional issues. I actually pity his current wife. Even though its still a fake story. But its thus far the best story on wazua 2017 There is some vengeance form the X's family, they don't like my guy coz he 'refused' to marry their daughter, issues which caused their breakup not withstanding. So the X's family may not co-operate. Primarily why the guy wants to go to court is because of access, coz he knows custody is a tall order. A last one, with this Nairobi's capitalistic nature, if a family/jirani moved houses and changed schools for kids, how would you go about establishing where they have moved to? You realize it can be a process. Its not so straight forward i believe especially if u stay far away "The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." ― Charles Bukowski
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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alma1 wrote:Swenani wrote:tnai9 wrote:alma1 wrote:
The more you talked, the more I understood why even that lady who's a luhya has decided that the man is a lunatic. Hata Swenani can understand huyu sio mluhya kamili.
Iko kasoro na huyu jamaa.
Maybe he got some money last year akaanza maringo. After all, why the sudden change when before the family was willing to let him be with the child.
Then he got some dollars sasa ameanza kuletea watoto mobile phone.
Let me say this, he is these guys who change employers a bit frequently and has therefore had his salary increasing and he is moving up. There has been detailed analysis here but some based on assumptions. He says the X didn't really hold him in high esteem when they were dating coz she thought the guy would remain poor. Thinks its a first love. So she is sticking on the dota to punish him so I hear, coz he refused to marry her. The X named the dota such that her 1st name starts with the same letter like his X. So clearly there are issues here... The X's hubby has never entertained the two talking, this lady would secretly to tell this guy where to meet the daughter, but they were think discovered and this brought real issues. So currently my guy has no sources of information about the daughter, even the X has cut off. Its a forest This also describes your guy's life skills.....clueless! I now believe this is a made up story at one of those media houses. Someone looking for a juicy story for the weekend. Huyu jamaaa ana ringa sana that he pays fees but can't seem to find out where his kid is? Where do they stay? Where does the wife work? Where does the husband of the wife work? Where do the other kids go to school? Ama aliens took them? Kweli huyu jamaa ni jinga ya aina gani? This is a fake story...And thanks tnai9 you made wazua fun for a few days. fake story indeed. can tell even from the way tnai keeps on adding more 'facts' (which are at times inconsistent with the initial 'facts') as people comment. before you know it the x's husband shall be painted as a wife batterer, and their kids as bullies etc.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935
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So apparently, the guy calls the x at her workplace and it is the hubby who answers and abuses him. Surely, Okay!!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/21/2010 Posts: 345 Location: easto
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The statement is this, my guy doesn't know whether the X is at home or work, and the few times he has called or texted, either the call is not picked or the X's hubby calls later to reprimand him why he is calling, texting or mpesaing his wife. So he is afraid of calling, texting or mpesaing his X. The lady works is some shift job. We are now digressing from the main story. Am not a blogger or a journalist. This is just to gather info and advice a friend especially about the court processes and if he stands to lose..or gain..because all avenues for him to access his daughter seem closed. "The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." ― Charles Bukowski
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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@tnai9, tell your guy to read the children's act 2001, I think it was ammendd in 2012. Specifically, the definition of parental responsibility.
He has no legal standing. As @intelligentsia said, the day his ex married the new hubby, that new guy took over parental responsibility.
He cannot argue standard of living because the courts only look at that when you are divorcing.
If the ex divorces the new hubby, the court would force him (current hubby), to continue providing for the kid as he is doing now.
There is a guy who got a beautiful mwk and he could visit her house often. Once in a while he could pay school fees for the mpango's kid (not his). Then with time the relationship ended. The mwk sued him and won. Courts decision was he had already accepted parental responsibility.
Ask around, those two words have seen men weep in the family court.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/21/2010 Posts: 345 Location: easto
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FRM2011 wrote:@tnai9, tell your guy to read the children's act 2001, I think it was ammendd in 2012. Specifically, the definition of parental responsibility.
He has no legal standing. As @intelligentsia said, the day his ex married the new hubby, that new guy took over parental responsibility.
He cannot argue standard of living because the courts only look at that when you are divorcing.
If the ex divorces the new hubby, the court would force him (current hubby), to continue providing for the kid as he is doing now.
There is a guy who got a beautiful mwk and he could visit her house often. Once in a while he could pay school fees for the mpango's kid (not his). Then with time the relationship ended. The mwk sued him and won. Courts decision was he had already accepted parental responsibility.
Ask around, those two words have seen men weep in the family court. These is the sort of info he is looking for, because the court may rule in any way. He has taken on long term capital intensive projects and doesn't want to go there and then the court attaches 30% of his salary. He primarily wants access and also to support his daughter. But the other family, in a rejoinder, may ask to have his salary attached. These are his fears. "The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." ― Charles Bukowski
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Hapa tunachengwa. Ni Sawa tu, Mungu anakuona.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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tnai9 wrote:FRM2011 wrote:@tnai9, tell your guy to read the children's act 2001, I think it was ammendd in 2012. Specifically, the definition of parental responsibility.
He has no legal standing. As @intelligentsia said, the day his ex married the new hubby, that new guy took over parental responsibility.
He cannot argue standard of living because the courts only look at that when you are divorcing.
If the ex divorces the new hubby, the court would force him (current hubby), to continue providing for the kid as he is doing now.
There is a guy who got a beautiful mwk and he could visit her house often. Once in a while he could pay school fees for the mpango's kid (not his). Then with time the relationship ended. The mwk sued him and won. Courts decision was he had already accepted parental responsibility.
Ask around, those two words have seen men weep in the family court. These is the sort of info he is looking for, because the court may rule in any way. He has taken on long term capital intensive projects and doesn't want to go there and then the court attaches 30% of his salary. He primarily wants access and also to support his daughter. But the other family, in a rejoinder, may ask to have his salary attached. These are his fears. Can that really happen? Can a married man and woman go to court to demand that another mans salary is attached so as to support their child(ren)?
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/21/2010 Posts: 345 Location: easto
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washiku wrote:Hapa tunachengwa. Ni Sawa tu, Mungu anakuona. I wont go back to commenting on this, think some people here want me to start statements with "Naapa ya kwamba" "The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." ― Charles Bukowski
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