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Julius Njogu...these people,stanchat marathon thief!!
willin2learn
#81 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2015 1:53:12 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Muheani wrote:
Impunity wrote:
masukuma wrote:
by the way... was it a crime? that jumping in and finishing the race?


I dont think it was a crime by "jumping in and crossing the finish line", the only crime is when he made claim for the recognition and reward for the second benefits.
He should jut decline to claim the benefits and he will be released a free man soon.


All fraudsters...and he is one should be prosecuted.

AK should ban him from athletics for 5yrs

Under which law? He finished no 2. Only that he didn't run the whole race.


Forgery and fraud

How was he number 2 without running the whole course!!! Asking for a friend!!!!!


Guess it's just the way we have nominated Mpigs who never goes through the hustle of wooing voterssmile
Swenani
#82 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2015 2:06:39 PM
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Posts: 13,237
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Muheani wrote:
Impunity wrote:
masukuma wrote:
by the way... was it a crime? that jumping in and finishing the race?


I dont think it was a crime by "jumping in and crossing the finish line", the only crime is when he made claim for the recognition and reward for the second benefits.
He should jut decline to claim the benefits and he will be released a free man soon.


All fraudsters...and he is one should be prosecuted.

AK should ban him from athletics for 5yrs

Under which law? He finished no 2. Only that he didn't run the whole race.


Forgery and fraud

How was he number 2 without running the whole course!!! Asking for a friend!!!!!


The same way women give birth without experiencing labour pain...CS is forgery and fraud too
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masukuma
#83 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:15:04 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Muheani wrote:
Impunity wrote:
masukuma wrote:
by the way... was it a crime? that jumping in and finishing the race?


I dont think it was a crime by "jumping in and crossing the finish line", the only crime is when he made claim for the recognition and reward for the second benefits.
He should jut decline to claim the benefits and he will be released a free man soon.


All fraudsters...and he is one should be prosecuted.

AK should ban him from athletics for 5yrs

Under which law? He finished no 2. Only that he didn't run the whole race.


Forgery and fraud

How was he number 2 without running the whole course!!! Asking for a friend!!!!!

he was the second across the finishing line Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ukishinda watu KCPE lazima ukuwe ulisoma kutoka std 1? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

the worst thing for him is if he claimed to be no. 2 and wanted 'his money'. If he finished no. 2 and kept mum as people processed him angekuwa safe... but him running on a public road is not an offence.

Angeulizwa angesema he was the second across the finish line... lol!
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Impunity
#84 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:29:23 PM
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Location: Masada
masukuma wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Muheani wrote:
Impunity wrote:
masukuma wrote:
by the way... was it a crime? that jumping in and finishing the race?


I dont think it was a crime by "jumping in and crossing the finish line", the only crime is when he made claim for the recognition and reward for the second benefits.
He should jut decline to claim the benefits and he will be released a free man soon.


All fraudsters...and he is one should be prosecuted.

AK should ban him from athletics for 5yrs

Under which law? He finished no 2. Only that he didn't run the whole race.


Forgery and fraud

How was he number 2 without running the whole course!!! Asking for a friend!!!!!

he was the second across the finishing line Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ukishinda watu KCPE lazima ukuwe ulisoma kutoka std 1? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

the worst thing for him is if he claimed to be no. 2 and wanted 'his money'. If he finished no. 2 and kept mum as people processed him angekuwa safe... but him running on a public road is not an offence.

Angeulizwa angesema he was the second across the finish line... lol!


That is exactly what I thought, he stops asking for recog/money.

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Alba
#85 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:29:39 PM
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Location: Bandalungwa
He does not even have the physique of a marathon runner. I am not sure he has even featured in any road races ever. That alone is a dead giveway. And the speed with which he finished with so signs of fatigue is hillarious especially when you consider that the race was being run at high altitude. This jamaa did not even bother to do basic homework.
nakujua
#86 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:51:30 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/17/2009
Posts: 3,583
Location: Kenya
Impunity wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Muheani wrote:
Impunity wrote:
masukuma wrote:
by the way... was it a crime? that jumping in and finishing the race?


I dont think it was a crime by "jumping in and crossing the finish line", the only crime is when he made claim for the recognition and reward for the second benefits.
He should jut decline to claim the benefits and he will be released a free man soon.


All fraudsters...and he is one should be prosecuted.

AK should ban him from athletics for 5yrs

Under which law? He finished no 2. Only that he didn't run the whole race.


Forgery and fraud

How was he number 2 without running the whole course!!! Asking for a friend!!!!!

he was the second across the finishing line Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ukishinda watu KCPE lazima ukuwe ulisoma kutoka std 1? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

the worst thing for him is if he claimed to be no. 2 and wanted 'his money'. If he finished no. 2 and kept mum as people processed him angekuwa safe... but him running on a public road is not an offence.

Angeulizwa angesema he was the second across the finish line... lol!


That is exactly what I thought, he stops asking for recog/money.


smile are there any terms and conditions that athletes sign before running the marathon, as in do they have a written down definition of finishing.
masukuma
#87 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:54:46 PM
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Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
nakujua wrote:

smile are there any terms and conditions that athletes sign before running the marathon, as in do they have a written down definition of finishing.

indeed... that does not make it criminal - right? coz doping itself is not criminal...
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nakujua
#88 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:50:45 PM
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Posts: 3,583
Location: Kenya
masukuma wrote:
nakujua wrote:

smile are there any terms and conditions that athletes sign before running the marathon, as in do they have a written down definition of finishing.

indeed... that does not make it criminal - right? coz doping itself is not criminal...

As long as you dope with legal stuff, but when it comes to the latter there are defined substances that are banned - lakini in this case was there a definition of finishing a race, surely panting and sweating can not be used as an excuse to arrest someone, or can it - (not comparing the two) but vivian rarely breaks a sweat.

Been trying to read about past cases where guys cheat especially in marathons, have not come across a case where one was arrested.
masukuma
#89 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2015 5:09:21 PM
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Location: Nairobi
nakujua wrote:
masukuma wrote:
nakujua wrote:

smile are there any terms and conditions that athletes sign before running the marathon, as in do they have a written down definition of finishing.

indeed... that does not make it criminal - right? coz doping itself is not criminal...

As long as you dope with legal stuff, but when it comes to the latter there are defined substances that are banned - lakini in this case was there a definition of finishing a race, surely panting and sweating can not be used as an excuse to arrest someone, or can it - (not comparing the two) but vivian rarely breaks a sweat.

Been trying to read about past cases where guys cheat especially in marathons, have not come across a case where one was arrested.

I think the worst they can do is deny him the price... what he did was despicable but not criminal. He came in second but did not follow the rules of the race so he is disqualified.
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mkenyan
#90 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2015 6:34:40 PM
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Joined: 4/1/2009
Posts: 1,885
masukuma wrote:
nakujua wrote:
masukuma wrote:
nakujua wrote:

smile are there any terms and conditions that athletes sign before running the marathon, as in do they have a written down definition of finishing.

indeed... that does not make it criminal - right? coz doping itself is not criminal...

As long as you dope with legal stuff, but when it comes to the latter there are defined substances that are banned - lakini in this case was there a definition of finishing a race, surely panting and sweating can not be used as an excuse to arrest someone, or can it - (not comparing the two) but vivian rarely breaks a sweat.

Been trying to read about past cases where guys cheat especially in marathons, have not come across a case where one was arrested.

I think the worst they can do is deny him the price... what he did was despicable but not criminal. He came in second but did not follow the rules of the race so he is disqualified.

he committed a criminal offence of attempting to obtain by false pretences. it is immaterial whether he succeeded or not.

penal code on attempt:
Quote:
388.
Attempt defined
(1)
When a person, intending to commit an offence, begins to put his intention into execution by means adapted to its fulfillment, and manifests his intention by some overt act, but does not fulfill his intention to such an extent as to commit the offence, he is deemed to attempt to commit the offence.
(2)
It is immaterial, except so far as regards punishment, whether the offender does all that is necessary on his part for completing the commission of the offence, or whether the complete fulfillment of his intention is prevented by circumstances independent of his will, or whether he desists of his own motion from the further prosecution of his intention.
(3)
It is immaterial that by reason of circumstances not known to the offender it is impossible in fact to commit the offence.
389.
Attempts to commit offences.
Any person who attempts to commit a felony or a misdemeanour is guilty of an offence and is liable, if no other punishment is provided, to one-half of such punishment as may be provided for the offence attempted, but so that if that offence is one punishable by death or life imprisonment he shall not be liable to imprisonment for a term exceeding seven years.


penal code on obtaining:

Quote:
312.
Definition of false pretence
Any representation, made by words, writing or conduct, of a matter of fact, either past or present, which representation is false in fact, and which the person making it knows to be false or does not believe to be true, is a false pretence.
313.
Obtaining by false pretences
Any person who by any false pretence, and with intent to defraud, obtains from any other person anything capable of being stolen, or induces any other person to deliver to any person anything capable of being stolen, is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for three years.
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