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World's oldest stone tools found near Lake Turkana
kaka2za
#81 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2016 10:02:49 AM
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Kumbe kulikuwa na PEV 8000 BC?!
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#82 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2016 10:06:53 AM
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Just a question that has not yet been answered except by conjecture and cavil.
murchr
#83 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2016 3:31:49 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Kumbe kulikuwa na PEV 8000 BC?!


Cattle rustling
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masukuma
#84 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2016 4:45:50 PM
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murchr wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Kumbe kulikuwa na PEV 8000 BC?!


Cattle rustling

Earliest found! I am sure people were killing each others in hordes way before that!
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masukuma
#85 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2016 4:58:37 PM
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Just a question that has not yet been answered except by conjecture and cavil.

I think the question has always been answered but the statement/claim that science says 'Human beings came from Apes' has hidden the very point of what the science community has claimed. the correct statement is 'human beings and chimps share a common ancestor' as opposed to the claim 'humans came from chimps'. In much the same way you came from your grand father and not from your cousin!
Tests have shown that the amount of similarity between human beings is average 0.1% and between humans and Chimps is 1.2% - that is testable!

on a different note... humans are known to be quite brutal and self righteous and in much the same way the white men killed off many native populations and subdued them... i suspect the fate of our not so nibble minded relatives was the same!!!
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murchr
#86 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2016 5:37:13 PM
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masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Kumbe kulikuwa na PEV 8000 BC?!


Cattle rustling


Earliest found! I am sure people were killing each others in hordes way before that!


Of course, but this is the oldest. What's interesting though is the position these bones were found. Crossed hands meaning some of them were tied on their hands before being beaten and thrown in the lake/lagoon. There was another bunch as old as this found in SSudan but those were burried
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Alba
#87 Posted : Saturday, January 23, 2016 1:08:18 AM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:





Just a question that has not yet been answered except by conjecture and cavil.



Very easy to answer. The reason transitional fossils are difficult to find is because fossilization is a very rare process. 99.99% of the time when an animal dies, its remains are scattered or eaten by scavengers. So finding a well preserved fossil is very rare.

By the way that image seems to imply that millions of initial human ape ancestors have been found. This is Not true. Humans did not evolve from chimpanzees. But Humans and chimpanzees have a common ancestor from 6 million years ago. So that picture you posted is wrong and misleading.

The fossils of potential human ancestors from 6 million years ago are very rare. They include Sahelanthropus, Orrorin Tugenensis and Ardipethecus.

Its also worth noting that even fewer chimpanzee fossils have been found. As far as I know, there is only one chimpanzee fossil older than 500,000 years old that has ever been found. This is because fossilization while rare in the open savannah, is even rarer in forest environments
Alba
#88 Posted : Saturday, January 23, 2016 1:09:57 AM
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Lake Turkana region never ceases to surprise. The number of ancient artifacts, fossils that have been found in that region is mind boggling. It must have been a very fertile and well watered area for people to fighting each other to the death over resources as recently as 10,000 years ago
kaka2za
#89 Posted : Saturday, January 23, 2016 9:07:06 AM
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Alba wrote:
Lake Turkana region never ceases to surprise. The number of ancient artifacts, fossils that have been found in that region is mind boggling. It must have been a very fertile and well watered area for people to fighting each other to the death over resources as recently as 10,000 years ago


The assumption they were fighting over resources is debatable. Humans kill for plethora of reasons and not necessarily resources.
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AlphDoti
#90 Posted : Saturday, January 23, 2016 11:19:10 AM
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Alba wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:


Just a question that has not yet been answered except by conjecture and cavil.

Very easy to answer. The reason transitional fossils are difficult to find is because fossilization is a very rare process. 99.99% of the time when an animal dies, its remains are scattered or eaten by scavengers. So finding a well preserved fossil is very rare.

By the way that image seems to imply that millions of initial human ape ancestors have been found. This is Not true. Humans did not evolve from chimpanzees. But Humans and chimpanzees have a common ancestor from 6 million years ago. So that picture you posted is wrong and misleading.

The fossils of potential human ancestors from 6 million years ago are very rare. They include Sahelanthropus, Orrorin Tugenensis and Ardipethecus.

Its also worth noting that even fewer chimpanzee fossils have been found. As far as I know, there is only one chimpanzee fossil older than 500,000 years old that has ever been found. This is because fossilization while rare in the open savannah, is even rarer in forest environments

Good try @Alba. The question is; it's said evolution is gradual process, so where is the previous state before ours. Ama when you evolve into the next stage, all the previous die?
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