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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Back to the article. Quote:On Wednesday evening, KRA confirmed that its staff members had been part of the syndicate and were under arrest. Commissioner General John Njiraini said KRA “played a key role in unearthing the crime … whose outcome has been the arrest of several suspects among them KRA staff in the ICT department”.
The cybercrime syndicate was operating in the Nairobi CBD, Muthaiga, Thika, and Roysambu, and had been robbing banks using Salami attacks (kidogo kidogo) and electronic transfers as well as trafficking drugs. They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them. During the crackdown, police recovered several vehicle number plates from one of the houses......... Quote:At the KRA offices in Nairobi, detectives discovered a laptop hidden within the network chambers “and connected through port 11” which allowed Mr Ogalo to have unfettered access to the system.
In Ogalo’s house, police said they found an AK47 rifle, computers, mini servers, cables, hard disks and a narcotic substance whose samples were taken to the Government Chemist for verification and classification. Ogalo is also sought by the Banking Fraud Investigation Unit (BFID), and is suspected to have been involved in the theft of Sh50 million from the Kenya Police Sacco. exactly... it makes sense... Quote:had been robbing banks using Salami attacks and electronic transfers <-- YES BANKS...SALAMI ATTACKS ONLY WORKS WITH BANKS OR AIRTIME E.T.C. basically move small amounts around to where someone else can use them or take them off the system. That cannot happen with KRA coz they don't have electronic currency that someone can 'use' or 'take out' Quote:They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them. now this is what from the onset I was saying... the only way you can 'rob' KRA (directly) would be reducing tax obligations of people. A car is supposed to attract a tax of 300k, you pay 100k... it looks like 300k on the system. you pay the guy who 'facilitated' 100k! There's no way money would disappear in the bank without manipulation of transactions at KRA. I see we are progressing... so money 'disappeared' in the bank? i.e. the bank received instructions to send out moneys -right? I am yet to come across a claim where money 'disappeared' in the bank! ama iko? that would be hacking the bank! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Back to the article. Quote:On Wednesday evening, KRA confirmed that its staff members had been part of the syndicate and were under arrest. Commissioner General John Njiraini said KRA “played a key role in unearthing the crime … whose outcome has been the arrest of several suspects among them KRA staff in the ICT department”.
The cybercrime syndicate was operating in the Nairobi CBD, Muthaiga, Thika, and Roysambu, and had been robbing banks using Salami attacks (kidogo kidogo) and electronic transfers as well as trafficking drugs. They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them. During the crackdown, police recovered several vehicle number plates from one of the houses......... Quote:At the KRA offices in Nairobi, detectives discovered a laptop hidden within the network chambers “and connected through port 11” which allowed Mr Ogalo to have unfettered access to the system.
In Ogalo’s house, police said they found an AK47 rifle, computers, mini servers, cables, hard disks and a narcotic substance whose samples were taken to the Government Chemist for verification and classification. Ogalo is also sought by the Banking Fraud Investigation Unit (BFID), and is suspected to have been involved in the theft of Sh50 million from the Kenya Police Sacco. exactly... it makes sense... Quote:had been robbing banks using Salami attacks and electronic transfers <-- YES BANKS...SALAMI ATTACKS ONLY WORKS WITH BANKS OR AIRTIME E.T.C. basically move small amounts around to where someone else can use them or take them off the system. That cannot happen with KRA coz they don't have electronic currency that someone can 'use' or 'take out' Quote:They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them. now this is what from the onset I was saying... the only way you can 'rob' KRA (directly) would be reducing tax obligations of people. A car is supposed to attract a tax of 300k, you pay 100k... it looks like 300k on the system. you pay the guy who 'facilitated' 100k! There's no way money would disappear in the bank without manipulation of transactions at KRA. I see we are progressing... so money 'disappeared' in the bank? i.e. the bank received instructions to send out moneys -right? I am yet to come across a claim where money 'disappeared' in the bank! ama iko? that would be hacking the bank! Money also disappeared in KRA entries and made way to some other bank account "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Back to the article. Quote:On Wednesday evening, KRA confirmed that its staff members had been part of the syndicate and were under arrest. Commissioner General John Njiraini said KRA “played a key role in unearthing the crime … whose outcome has been the arrest of several suspects among them KRA staff in the ICT department”.
The cybercrime syndicate was operating in the Nairobi CBD, Muthaiga, Thika, and Roysambu, and had been robbing banks using Salami attacks (kidogo kidogo) and electronic transfers as well as trafficking drugs. They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them. During the crackdown, police recovered several vehicle number plates from one of the houses......... Quote:At the KRA offices in Nairobi, detectives discovered a laptop hidden within the network chambers “and connected through port 11” which allowed Mr Ogalo to have unfettered access to the system.
In Ogalo’s house, police said they found an AK47 rifle, computers, mini servers, cables, hard disks and a narcotic substance whose samples were taken to the Government Chemist for verification and classification. Ogalo is also sought by the Banking Fraud Investigation Unit (BFID), and is suspected to have been involved in the theft of Sh50 million from the Kenya Police Sacco. exactly... it makes sense... Quote:had been robbing banks using Salami attacks and electronic transfers <-- YES BANKS...SALAMI ATTACKS ONLY WORKS WITH BANKS OR AIRTIME E.T.C. basically move small amounts around to where someone else can use them or take them off the system. That cannot happen with KRA coz they don't have electronic currency that someone can 'use' or 'take out' Quote:They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them. now this is what from the onset I was saying... the only way you can 'rob' KRA (directly) would be reducing tax obligations of people. A car is supposed to attract a tax of 300k, you pay 100k... it looks like 300k on the system. you pay the guy who 'facilitated' 100k! There's no way money would disappear in the bank without manipulation of transactions at KRA. I see we are progressing... so money 'disappeared' in the bank? i.e. the bank received instructions to send out moneys -right? I am yet to come across a claim where money 'disappeared' in the bank! ama iko? that would be hacking the bank! Money also disappeared in KRA entries and made way to some other bank account so the 'hack' was one that made KRA send money to other accounts? 4billion? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Back to the article. Quote:On Wednesday evening, KRA confirmed that its staff members had been part of the syndicate and were under arrest. Commissioner General John Njiraini said KRA “played a key role in unearthing the crime … whose outcome has been the arrest of several suspects among them KRA staff in the ICT department”.
The cybercrime syndicate was operating in the Nairobi CBD, Muthaiga, Thika, and Roysambu, and had been robbing banks using Salami attacks (kidogo kidogo) and electronic transfers as well as trafficking drugs. They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them. During the crackdown, police recovered several vehicle number plates from one of the houses......... Quote:At the KRA offices in Nairobi, detectives discovered a laptop hidden within the network chambers “and connected through port 11” which allowed Mr Ogalo to have unfettered access to the system.
In Ogalo’s house, police said they found an AK47 rifle, computers, mini servers, cables, hard disks and a narcotic substance whose samples were taken to the Government Chemist for verification and classification. Ogalo is also sought by the Banking Fraud Investigation Unit (BFID), and is suspected to have been involved in the theft of Sh50 million from the Kenya Police Sacco. exactly... it makes sense... Quote:had been robbing banks using Salami attacks and electronic transfers <-- YES BANKS...SALAMI ATTACKS ONLY WORKS WITH BANKS OR AIRTIME E.T.C. basically move small amounts around to where someone else can use them or take them off the system. That cannot happen with KRA coz they don't have electronic currency that someone can 'use' or 'take out' Quote:They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them. now this is what from the onset I was saying... the only way you can 'rob' KRA (directly) would be reducing tax obligations of people. A car is supposed to attract a tax of 300k, you pay 100k... it looks like 300k on the system. you pay the guy who 'facilitated' 100k! There's no way money would disappear in the bank without manipulation of transactions at KRA. I see we are progressing... so money 'disappeared' in the bank? i.e. the bank received instructions to send out moneys -right? I am yet to come across a claim where money 'disappeared' in the bank! ama iko? that would be hacking the bank! Money also disappeared in KRA entries and made way to some other bank account so the 'hack' was one that made KRA send money to other accounts? 4billion? Are you disputing that manipulation of entries/transactions happened at KRA? I dont get you. First you were of the opinion that KRA doesnt receive any monies. If the Salami attack has been going on for a while is 4B too big for KRA? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Back to the article. Quote:On Wednesday evening, KRA confirmed that its staff members had been part of the syndicate and were under arrest. Commissioner General John Njiraini said KRA “played a key role in unearthing the crime … whose outcome has been the arrest of several suspects among them KRA staff in the ICT department”.
The cybercrime syndicate was operating in the Nairobi CBD, Muthaiga, Thika, and Roysambu, and had been robbing banks using Salami attacks (kidogo kidogo) and electronic transfers as well as trafficking drugs. They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them. During the crackdown, police recovered several vehicle number plates from one of the houses......... Quote:At the KRA offices in Nairobi, detectives discovered a laptop hidden within the network chambers “and connected through port 11” which allowed Mr Ogalo to have unfettered access to the system.
In Ogalo’s house, police said they found an AK47 rifle, computers, mini servers, cables, hard disks and a narcotic substance whose samples were taken to the Government Chemist for verification and classification. Ogalo is also sought by the Banking Fraud Investigation Unit (BFID), and is suspected to have been involved in the theft of Sh50 million from the Kenya Police Sacco. exactly... it makes sense... Quote:had been robbing banks using Salami attacks and electronic transfers <-- YES BANKS...SALAMI ATTACKS ONLY WORKS WITH BANKS OR AIRTIME E.T.C. basically move small amounts around to where someone else can use them or take them off the system. That cannot happen with KRA coz they don't have electronic currency that someone can 'use' or 'take out' Quote:They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them. now this is what from the onset I was saying... the only way you can 'rob' KRA (directly) would be reducing tax obligations of people. A car is supposed to attract a tax of 300k, you pay 100k... it looks like 300k on the system. you pay the guy who 'facilitated' 100k! There's no way money would disappear in the bank without manipulation of transactions at KRA. I see we are progressing... so money 'disappeared' in the bank? i.e. the bank received instructions to send out moneys -right? I am yet to come across a claim where money 'disappeared' in the bank! ama iko? that would be hacking the bank! Money also disappeared in KRA entries and made way to some other bank account so the 'hack' was one that made KRA send money to other accounts? 4billion? Are you disputing that manipulation of entries/transactions happened at KRA? I dont get you. First you were of the opinion that KRA doesnt receive any monies. If the Salami attack has been going on for a while is 4B too big for KRA? I am saying... the only way this makes sense is if these manipulations were to REDUCE TAX OBLIGATIONS OF SOME PEOPLE by reducing the amount to be paid by 4 billion. as opposed to manipulations to make KRA 'pay' 4billion to some accounts. the salami attack you referenced talked about the same group hitting A BANK not KRA. if KRA receives monies... it'self as in CASH - robbing that would need a drive-in and since we are talking about 'hackers' with laptops plugged into their network it means these 'cash' amounts are not the ones we are talking about... it's all electronic. So @muchr ... again... slowly.. tell us your version... how was money stolen? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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Eish, @Masukuma! Have you noticed people have resorted to whispers, and deliberate vagueness! Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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masukuma wrote:the only way this whole thing makes sense is if a guy reduced tax obligations of certain companies and the sum total reduction was 4B and was paid by the said companies a fraction of the amount he "saved" them from.
Nothing else makes any sense!! nothing!! Kuiba from Kra? thats like stealing from their bank accounts... thats on the banks side. not KRA!! nothing about the 'stealing from KRA' claim makes any sense! indeed. this is the only sensible way i can see someone hacking and stealing money from kra.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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mkenyan wrote:
indeed. this is the only sensible way i can see someone hacking and stealing money from kra.
In fact we are yet to be clear on if KRA indeed keeps money within its system in electronic form and whether or not CBK would be ok with that. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear? @maveggies explanation makes sense. The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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Please huyu jamaa anagoja chapa ya bond,then aje aseme vile wanahak pesa ikiwa kwa mfuko kwasababu ume update smartphone yako!
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