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Contradiction Premises
symbols
#81 Posted : Sunday, March 22, 2015 4:56:54 AM
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What is the psychology behind your post?
AlphDoti
#82 Posted : Sunday, March 22, 2015 7:47:09 AM
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symbols wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
symbols wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
symbols wrote:
@AlphDoti - Unless you are questioning the authenticity of the information provided in the links,I believe I have provided you with the information you have requested.

Where is the proof of your claims?

What have I claimed Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

@symbol, I'm not discussing authenticity of Internet sites, let leave that to experts in that area. I didn't ask you for Internet links. Everybody can give links, and wazua would be site of links.

So back your issue no.5: you said Yahweh appears thousands in the Bible. Enlighten me, where the Bible says the name of God is YAHWEH. Where is the proof of your claims?

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AlphDoti wrote:

Also, God never revealed the name Yahweh as his name! It is the same human beings who concocted the name!!

Exodus 6:3 wrote:
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

from KingJamesBibleOnline

Now you're talking. But, the reference you've given Exodus 6:3 in my KJV 1952, YAHWEH does not appear. See the following picture I took of the page, it says "...but by my name the LORD..."


1 John 2:22 wrote:
Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.

What does yours say?

What does mine say? You want to digress? Umeshindwa na Exodus 6:3? Umeshindwa na Gen 2:4?

The question is: is Jehova a name that God revealed for Himself to man or is it a name given by man to God? Or is yahwe or yhwh a name revealed by God or is it a name given by man to God?

This is what I'm asking you.

For example: I can ask you: what is your name? And you say: Symbols.
So I say we will just call you babu, for example. Whether you like this name or not we just call you babu. So why did i ask you your name in the first place if it did not matter to me what your name was. I was going to "baptize" you anyway.

My conclusion: neither JEHOVAH nor YAHWE nor YHWH was a name revealed by God to man. These were names given by man to God.

In the Qur'an, God tells us he had revealed His Name to Musa: ALLAH. And this name was known since the time of Adam and always through all other prophets.

Out of complete arrogance and indifference, the writers of the Bible changed this name to LORD, YHWH, YAHWE and then JEHOVAH Shame on you
symbols
#83 Posted : Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:14:23 AM
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YHWH is the name of the Lord that He revealed.

The explanations for Yahweh,Jehovah,Lord God e.t.c are here.

The Quran can claim anything it wants just like you can claim anything you want.

Provide the evidence for your claims like I have.
AlphDoti
#84 Posted : Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:40:41 AM
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symbols wrote:
YHWH is the name of the Lord that He revealed.

The explanations for Yahweh,Jehovah,Lord God e.t.c are here.

The Quran can claim anything it wants just like you can claim anything you want.

Provide the evidence for your claims like I have.

Since non of the references you've provided does not say God said his name is YAHWEH, let me give you evidence why this name was given by man to God.

Did you know that Jehova is NOT A HEBREW WORD? Jehova comes from GREEK. And surely Musa and the Israelis did not speak Greek.

You are swallowing a biblical lie hook line and sinker. I wish you would just open your eyes and reflect on these issues.
symbols
#85 Posted : Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:47:34 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
symbols wrote:
YHWH is the name of the Lord that He revealed.

The explanations for Yahweh,Jehovah,Lord God e.t.c are here.

The Quran can claim anything it wants just like you can claim anything you want.

Provide the evidence for your claims like I have.

Since non of the references you've provided does not say God said his name is YAHWEH, let me give you evidence why this name was given by man to God.

Did you know that Jehova is NOT A HEBREW WORD? Jehova comes from GREEK. And surely Musa and the Israelis did not speak Greek.

You are swallowing a biblical lie hook line and sinker. I wish you would just open your eyes and reflect on these issues.


Why are we having this discussion in English? Stop digressing and grasping at straws.

Provide the evidence for your claims.

Allah is not Yahweh.Islam is not the religion of Yahweh!
AlphDoti
#86 Posted : Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:56:27 AM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
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Location: Kenya
symbols wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
symbols wrote:
YHWH is the name of the Lord that He revealed.

The explanations for Yahweh,Jehovah,Lord God e.t.c are here.

The Quran can claim anything it wants just like you can claim anything you want.

Provide the evidence for your claims like I have.

Since non of the references you've provided does not say God said his name is YAHWEH, let me give you evidence why this name was given by man to God.

Did you know that Jehova is NOT A HEBREW WORD? Jehova comes from GREEK. And surely Musa and the Israelis did not speak Greek.

You are swallowing a biblical lie hook line and sinker. I wish you would just open your eyes and reflect on these issues.

Why are we having this discussion in English? Stop digressing and grasping at straws.

Provide the evidence for your claims.

Allah is not Yahweh.Islam is not the religion of Yahweh!

What language do you want to have this discussion in? Don't you understand English?

These are the facts, you cannot dispute these:
1. Jehova is NOT A HEBREW WORD
2. Jehova comes from GREEK
3. Musa, Jesus and all the Israelis did not speak Greek

The truth is the Name was and is ALLAH. Whether in Hebrew, Arabic, English or Greek the name remains the same: ALLAH.

It is the Bible writers, who introduced descriptions instead of the name: ALLAH so that their followers may not know the truth.
symbols
#87 Posted : Sunday, March 22, 2015 9:02:08 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
symbols wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
symbols wrote:
YHWH is the name of the Lord that He revealed.

The explanations for Yahweh,Jehovah,Lord God e.t.c are here.

The Quran can claim anything it wants just like you can claim anything you want.

Provide the evidence for your claims like I have.

Since non of the references you've provided does not say God said his name is YAHWEH, let me give you evidence why this name was given by man to God.

Did you know that Jehova is NOT A HEBREW WORD? Jehova comes from GREEK. And surely Musa and the Israelis did not speak Greek.

You are swallowing a biblical lie hook line and sinker. I wish you would just open your eyes and reflect on these issues.

Why are we having this discussion in English? Stop digressing and grasping at straws.

Provide the evidence for your claims.

Allah is not Yahweh.Islam is not the religion of Yahweh!

What language do you want to have this discussion in? Don't you understand English?

These are the facts, you cannot dispute these:
1. Jehova is NOT A HEBREW WORD
2. Jehova comes from GREEK
3. Musa, Jesus and all the Israelis did not speak Greek

The truth is the Name was and is ALLAH. Whether in Hebrew, Arabic, English or Greek the name remains the same: ALLAH.

It is the Bible writers, who introduced descriptions instead of the name: ALLAH so that their followers may not know the truth.


Am I disputing those facts?

1.Allah is not a HEBREW WORD.
2.Jesus is not a HEBREW WORD.

What truth? Allah is an Arabic word just like YHWH is a Hebrew word.

More baseless claims.Prove Allah is Yahweh!

AlphDoti
#88 Posted : Sunday, March 22, 2015 9:16:16 AM
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Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
symbols wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
symbols wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
symbols wrote:
YHWH is the name of the Lord that He revealed.

The explanations for Yahweh,Jehovah,Lord God e.t.c are here.

The Quran can claim anything it wants just like you can claim anything you want.

Provide the evidence for your claims like I have.

Since non of the references you've provided does not say God said his name is YAHWEH, let me give you evidence why this name was given by man to God.

Did you know that Jehova is NOT A HEBREW WORD? Jehova comes from GREEK. And surely Musa and the Israelis did not speak Greek.

You are swallowing a biblical lie hook line and sinker. I wish you would just open your eyes and reflect on these issues.

Why are we having this discussion in English? Stop digressing and grasping at straws.

Provide the evidence for your claims.

Allah is not Yahweh.Islam is not the religion of Yahweh!

What language do you want to have this discussion in? Don't you understand English?

These are the facts, you cannot dispute these:
1. Jehova is NOT A HEBREW WORD
2. Jehova comes from GREEK
3. Musa, Jesus and all the Israelis did not speak Greek

The truth is the Name was and is ALLAH. Whether in Hebrew, Arabic, English or Greek the name remains the same: ALLAH.

It is the Bible writers, who introduced descriptions instead of the name: ALLAH so that their followers may not know the truth.

Am I disputing those facts?

1.Allah is not a HEBREW WORD.
2.Jesus is not a HEBREW WORD.

What truth? Allah is an Arabic word just like YHWH is a Hebrew word.

More baseless claims.Prove Allah is Yahweh!

Thank you for not disputing the facts. The people reading in Wazua are not foolish. They understand and can see.

Now, as far as Bible is concerned, the writer, the compilers are not known. So how can we be sure where the info contained therein came from? There is no gospel of Jesus. There is no gospel of his disciples of Jesus. There is just a group of unidentified people who put words together and the readers like you claim these are the words of God.

Have you noticed that none of the books says it is revelation or inspiration from God? None of the books begins with "In the Name of God"? So who wrote the books? Or who put them together? Who chose which gospel should be included and which should be rejected????

Endless questions whose reply can only be: may be or may be not!!

The Quran on the other hand identifies itself in the beginning. It says:
"This is the Book in which there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are humble and who seek the truth, who believe in the unseen and perform prayer and spend out of that We have given them."
symbols
#89 Posted : Sunday, March 22, 2015 9:26:05 AM
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@AlphDoti - You are either incapable or unwilling to provide any evidence as you continue churning out more baseless claims!

Do you think the people reading Wazua are foolish enough to not notice that?
AlphDoti
#90 Posted : Sunday, March 22, 2015 9:37:33 AM
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Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
symbols wrote:
@AlphDoti - You are either incapable or unwilling to provide any evidence as you continue churning out more baseless claims!

Do you think the people reading Wazua are foolish enough to not notice that?

What baseless thing have i churned? Isn't you who churned out about 6 items? I'm only handling one of of them: your claim that YAHWEH is name of God.

And I've humbly asked you to show us where God said my name is YahWeh. All you could do is churn out a link.

I'm telling you, the name YAHWEH was coined by men. Musa, Jesus and all other prophets never used that name to refer to God. Even you yourself accepted just now that YAHWEH/Jehovah came from Greek, and none of the prophets of God spoke Greek!! Now show me how that is baseless claim!
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