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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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selah wrote:Njung'e wrote:KP cuts power off again paralysing maintenance work.....wah! How can a power producer get its power cut by a distributor....something is not right somewhere....  Anyway, Mumias is a net user now! No cane being crushed = no stima being produced Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/20/2012 Posts: 888
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The govt owns about 306,000,000 in Mumias. The share drop from sh 25 to 1.40 amounts approximately 7.2Billion loss. Add that to unemployment that this firm would create in Western Kenya were it to close its doors.
The Government should be get their act together in respect to this firm. Otherwise it will cost them a lot of reputation should to remain its death bed.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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Mumias Sugar Company and Mumias Outgrowers Company(1998) ltd are two distinct companies.The article is on Mumias Outgrowers Company(1998) Ltd!!!!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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Cry cry gvt bail out,kq,mumias,kmc,uchumi,chemelil,muhoroni,pan paper etc you can't be bailing out when pple loot. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/19/2014 Posts: 125
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Let Mumias sugar die, Dangote will come set up a proper sugar factory
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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MKWASI wrote:The govt owns about 306,000,000 in Mumias. The share drop from sh 25 to 1.40 amounts approximately 7.2Billion loss. Add that to unemployment that this firm would create in Western Kenya were it to close its doors.
The Government should be get their act together in respect to this firm. Otherwise it will cost them a lot of reputation should to remain its death bed.
IMHO. MSC could easily fall with no big impact. MSC is in western. Most of the collapsing factories are in western & Nyanza. Western leaders are NEVER united thus can't martial a collective bargaining power. Nyanza ppl always in opposition and don't address actual issues. A sitting president knows there's no guarantee of majority votes. Votes from here are negligible. Very few or no factories have collapsed in central,North Rift & other regions. In other regions leaders are united when it comes to defending their economic backbones e.g miraa,coffee. Given panpaper,miwani,chemilil,muhoroni,many coffee factories e.t.c from western &Nyanza and no significant impact was seen,any other like MSC can. People from here don't care to collective bargaining power & economy but individual selfishness. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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Mumias will never fall. President Uhuru may be on the way to visit this industry and know the cause of its problems and the course that will be taken to bring it back to its feet
The is the backbone of many families young and old. We cannot sit and assume cheap sugar will come our way once our industries die, it will be the worst mistake we will have to learn as prices will shoot once importers are aware we do not produce and demand goes high.
If Mobius is mass produced and many families afford it even other vehicles will have their prices down.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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Boris Boyka wrote:MKWASI wrote:The govt owns about 306,000,000 in Mumias. The share drop from sh 25 to 1.40 amounts approximately 7.2Billion loss. Add that to unemployment that this firm would create in Western Kenya were it to close its doors.
The Government should be get their act together in respect to this firm. Otherwise it will cost them a lot of reputation should to remain its death bed.
IMHO. MSC could easily fall with no big impact. MSC is in western. Most of the collapsing factories are in western & Nyanza. Western leaders are NEVER united thus can't martial a collective bargaining power. Nyanza ppl always in opposition and don't address actual issues. A sitting president knows there's no guarantee of majority votes. Votes from here are negligible. Very few or no factories have collapsed in central,North Rift & other regions. In other regions leaders are united when it comes to defending their economic backbones e.g miraa,coffee. Given panpaper,miwani,chemilil,muhoroni,many coffee factories e.t.c from western &Nyanza and no significant impact was seen,any other like MSC can. People from here don't care to collective bargaining power & economy but individual selfishness. Kenya Textile Mills, Ramisi Sugar, Kilifi Cashewnuts, Rivatex
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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Gordon Gekko wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:MKWASI wrote:The govt owns about 306,000,000 in Mumias. The share drop from sh 25 to 1.40 amounts approximately 7.2Billion loss. Add that to unemployment that this firm would create in Western Kenya were it to close its doors.
The Government should be get their act together in respect to this firm. Otherwise it will cost them a lot of reputation should to remain its death bed.
IMHO. MSC could easily fall with no big impact. MSC is in western. Most of the collapsing factories are in western & Nyanza. Western leaders are NEVER united thus can't martial a collective bargaining power. Nyanza ppl always in opposition and don't address actual issues. A sitting president knows there's no guarantee of majority votes. Votes from here are negligible. Very few or no factories have collapsed in central,North Rift & other regions. In other regions leaders are united when it comes to defending their economic backbones e.g miraa,coffee. Given panpaper,miwani,chemilil,muhoroni,many coffee factories e.t.c from western &Nyanza and no significant impact was seen,any other like MSC can. People from here don't care to collective bargaining power & economy but individual selfishness. Kenya Textile Mills, Ramisi Sugar, Kilifi Cashewnuts, Rivatex Mountex, KICOMI?, The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2014 Posts: 268 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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jerry wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:MKWASI wrote:The govt owns about 306,000,000 in Mumias. The share drop from sh 25 to 1.40 amounts approximately 7.2Billion loss. Add that to unemployment that this firm would create in Western Kenya were it to close its doors.
The Government should be get their act together in respect to this firm. Otherwise it will cost them a lot of reputation should to remain its death bed.
IMHO. MSC could easily fall with no big impact. MSC is in western. Most of the collapsing factories are in western & Nyanza. Western leaders are NEVER united thus can't martial a collective bargaining power. Nyanza ppl always in opposition and don't address actual issues. A sitting president knows there's no guarantee of majority votes. Votes from here are negligible. Very few or no factories have collapsed in central,North Rift & other regions. In other regions leaders are united when it comes to defending their economic backbones e.g miraa,coffee. Given panpaper,miwani,chemilil,muhoroni,many coffee factories e.t.c from western &Nyanza and no significant impact was seen,any other like MSC can. People from here don't care to collective bargaining power & economy but individual selfishness. Kenya Textile Mills, Ramisi Sugar, Kilifi Cashewnuts, Rivatex Mountex, KICOMI?, At the end of the long list ask yourself whether the investment environment has changed. I think so. For an industrialist investing this year is not as difficult as in those years the said firms collapsed. Furthermore we now have increased demand for products, reduced power, cheaper labour - yes there are more jobless graduates at all levels willing to work for almost free.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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More potential competition for Mumias http://www.businessdaily...46/-/l4rcly/-/index.htmlGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2014 Posts: 268 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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[quote=VituVingiSana]More potential competition for Mumias http://www.businessdaily...6/-/l4rcly/-/index.html[/quote] It could also mean an existence of adequate market. But of course I cannot rubbish the worrying risk of cane shortage
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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An almost 10% rise for Mumias on a daily basis could still propel its price back to good news. The closure for maintenance will have effect on machines and labour,plus flushing those who we do not need as they are just pests. Most of the firm managers may be marged removing one or two senior positions and the bulk of employees these managers bring some through nepotism. Its time to reposition and the President should get involved.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/8/2013 Posts: 386 Location: Nyali mombasa
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Zero supply still, We are holding this but if supply arises I will snap some more.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2011 Posts: 1,740 Location: Nairobi
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Has the factory opened or what !
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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streetwise wrote:Has the factory opened or what ! I doubt...it was 45 days or something...crap should have bought last week... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/2/2014 Posts: 123
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what has changed to warrant this errant behavior other than mere stochastic changes of the stock market. ,
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2014 Posts: 268 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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ike wrote:what has changed to warrant this errant behavior other than mere stochastic changes of the stock market. Not MSC alone, while sellers were running away, Ciano was also charging up his purchase machine. Watch and learn !
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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MPs, activists allege parliamentary report on sugar crisis doctoredBarons, Morons, Herons call them by any name , they are the people holding us hostage!!!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/2/2014 Posts: 123
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so you implying the recent bear across all stocks was stage managed so that some 'hidden hands' could stack up at lower prices? ,
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