Some things should never even suffice...

private citizens trusted their government, its processes and documents.. went ahead and invested Billions.

Now another Government arm is coming back to claim the land.. What the Kerfuffle is wrong with Kenya?

Would the said department even know under which ministry it belonged to back in 2003 (lands, agriculture, women and arid areas, children and Metropolitan).. or where it was when it acquired the land?

and now that they need it. For what i ask.. to rare Zebu cows? AI centre? Dog rescue department?

i wonder what goes on in the head the cranium of the guy who writes such emails/letters and signs them and sends them to hardworking innocent private citizens?

Actually you are being dishonest again.

Your argument before you were challenged was that the houses should stay since they make more money than agriculture.

I have said that those houses should never be allowed to stay since they are illegally there and it would lose more money for the country than a time bomb on KICC.

The experts have already told you they are illegal. These are, the owner of the property and the Ndungu report.

So according to you, it is ok to circumvent the law if we build beautiful houses.

My argument is that beautiful houses will have a value of 0ksh if we circumvent the law.

Does that sound like a feasibility argument to you?

You just can't talk about land, development and optimum land use without talking law. That is something that I know is lost on an architect so I understand.

Now this is what is called impunity. The developer went through the Ndungu report, saw it was grabbed land and still went ahead to develop the estate.

@alma, for once, breath in slowly and try to see the bigger picture. I am not so myopic to look at the money the houses are making as rent. Am looking at what the houses are contributing to the national tax pool.
They create job opportunities to hundreds, ensure hundreds travel to and from work with ease hence more productivity, increase the tax bracket to both county and national govt etc etc.

Now lets argue from the points above. How does kevevapi benefit the people of kenya while utilising the land? They can still make their vaccines in the remaining 70 acres or move to the thousands of lands they own around nairobi.

Am waiting to hear your answer with emphasis on the NATIONAL BUDGET contribution.

Why oh why are you trying to shade the truth. Reminds me of the song "whiter shade of pale"

The nssf did not buy the land from kevavapi.

So stop saying the gov't bought and sold land to itself. That is not true. The evidence is above and lands office too.

The land was ILLEGALLY acquired by individuals. These ones then sold them and the process continued to the final users.

I say users because they don't own proper title. They are like squatters.

I am surprised that an architect of your stature cannot see the immorality of the commissioner of lands allegedly allocating himself land that did not belong to him. Oh and gashungwa to boot.

I'm even flabbergasted that you cannot advice your clients to conduct proper searches in the ministry.

Your advice is that since a house is more expensive than a cow, lets hide the fact that someone perpetrated an illegality and move on.

I'm I right in assuming that you see nothing wrong in economic sense and market viability that any land you develop as an architect should have proper title?

Your profession depends on law. If you start dumping it for the sake of a piece of nice drawing on a paper, you will end up like those current squaters.

The value of your your 10 million or 16 billion will be ksh. 0.