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murchr wrote:washiku wrote:wazuaguest wrote:washiku wrote:By the way, were the Matatu owners part of the deal when these new rules were drafted? yes they were part of the deal.Their reasoning is that they will stop losing money to conductors, mungiki, police...etc So who is complaining? Common man  Just like he's complaining now that he cant travel by bus at night And that makes you happy? possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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murchr wrote:washiku wrote:wazuaguest wrote:washiku wrote:By the way, were the Matatu owners part of the deal when these new rules were drafted? yes they were part of the deal.Their reasoning is that they will stop losing money to conductors, mungiki, police...etc So who is complaining? Common man Just like he's complaining now that he cant travel by bus at night If its the business owners supporting it, us the pedestrians will have no option but to comply. Somehow, the business owner has a choice to chose how you pay him/her. If they insist that you have to pay in a certain way, then it will happen. What they can do is come up with creative ways to increase how people can pay them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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A laughable proposal at best, will not work and people will just ignore. Remember the street lights with camerasaround Nairobi. Has anyone seen any working? its now 30 days since their launch date. This is all about someone getting a contract to supply useless gadgets and businessmen and wananchi being forced to part with their hard earned money to enrich one politically correct individual. The test on whether its good would be to allow it to run concurrently with cash payment and in the classic capitalist way, the better option wins. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:A laughable proposal at best, will not work and people will just ignore. Remember the street lights with camerasaround Nairobi. Has anyone seen any working? its now 30 days since their launch date.
This is all about someone getting a contract to supply useless gadgets and businessmen and wananchi being forced to part with their hard earned money to enrich one politically correct individual.
The test on whether its good would be to allow it to run concurrently with cash payment and in the classic capitalist way, the better option wins.
 ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:murchr wrote:washiku wrote:wazuaguest wrote:washiku wrote:By the way, were the Matatu owners part of the deal when these new rules were drafted? yes they were part of the deal.Their reasoning is that they will stop losing money to conductors, mungiki, police...etc So who is complaining? Common man Just like he's complaining now that he cant travel by bus at night If its the business owners supporting it, us the pedestrians will have no option but to comply. Somehow, the business owner has a choice to chose how you pay him/her. If they insist that you have to pay in a certain way, then it will happen. What they can do is come up with creative ways to increase how people can pay them. I dont see how this will stop theft, especially for short haul routes unless all matatus carry nyaparas to count the passengers boarding and alighting. If I board at Uthiru and alight at Westlands and the conductor says 'wee lete mbao tumalizane' and I comply, how will the owner be wiser?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/25/2013 Posts: 402
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quicksand wrote:washiku wrote:murchr wrote:washiku wrote:wazuaguest wrote:washiku wrote:By the way, were the Matatu owners part of the deal when these new rules were drafted? yes they were part of the deal.Their reasoning is that they will stop losing money to conductors, mungiki, police...etc So who is complaining? Common man Just like he's complaining now that he cant travel by bus at night If its the business owners supporting it, us the pedestrians will have no option but to comply. Somehow, the business owner has a choice to chose how you pay him/her. If they insist that you have to pay in a certain way, then it will happen. What they can do is come up with creative ways to increase how people can pay them. I dont see how this will stop theft, especially for short haul routes unless all matatus carry nyaparas to count the passengers boarding and alighting. If I board at Uthiru and alight at Westlands and the conductor says 'wee lete mbao tumalizane' and I comply, how will the owner be wiser? My expectation is that someone will come up with a law compelling all matatu owners to install cctv cameras. The purpose of the cameras will be to ensure no cash transactions take place. Only matatus that comply will be allowed to operate. All people opposing the law will be told to shut up and stop being analogue.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Ole Lenku wrote:quicksand wrote:washiku wrote:murchr wrote:washiku wrote:wazuaguest wrote:washiku wrote:By the way, were the Matatu owners part of the deal when these new rules were drafted? yes they were part of the deal.Their reasoning is that they will stop losing money to conductors, mungiki, police...etc So who is complaining? Common man Just like he's complaining now that he cant travel by bus at night If its the business owners supporting it, us the pedestrians will have no option but to comply. Somehow, the business owner has a choice to chose how you pay him/her. If they insist that you have to pay in a certain way, then it will happen. What they can do is come up with creative ways to increase how people can pay them. I dont see how this will stop theft, especially for short haul routes unless all matatus carry nyaparas to count the passengers boarding and alighting. If I board at Uthiru and alight at Westlands and the conductor says 'wee lete mbao tumalizane' and I comply, how will the owner be wiser? My expectation is that someone will come up with a law compelling all matatu owners to install cctv cameras. The purpose of the cameras will be to ensure no cash transactions take place. Only matatus that comply will be allowed to operate. All people opposing the law will be told to shut up and stop being analogue.  Like seriously??? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/25/2013 Posts: 552 Location: Asgard
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cashless transactions to pay fare is not a bad idea but making it mandatory is. deadline ni yao, it wont work
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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McReggae wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:quicksand wrote:washiku wrote:murchr wrote:washiku wrote:wazuaguest wrote:washiku wrote:By the way, were the Matatu owners part of the deal when these new rules were drafted? yes they were part of the deal.Their reasoning is that they will stop losing money to conductors, mungiki, police...etc So who is complaining? Common man Just like he's complaining now that he cant travel by bus at night If its the business owners supporting it, us the pedestrians will have no option but to comply. Somehow, the business owner has a choice to chose how you pay him/her. If they insist that you have to pay in a certain way, then it will happen. What they can do is come up with creative ways to increase how people can pay them. I dont see how this will stop theft, especially for short haul routes unless all matatus carry nyaparas to count the passengers boarding and alighting. If I board at Uthiru and alight at Westlands and the conductor says 'wee lete mbao tumalizane' and I comply, how will the owner be wiser? My expectation is that someone will come up with a law compelling all matatu owners to install cctv cameras. The purpose of the cameras will be to ensure no cash transactions take place. Only matatus that comply will be allowed to operate. All people opposing the law will be told to shut up and stop being analogue. Like seriously??? In Kenya, which one. This is taking ndigital too far .... wait and see; tuone. Thieves
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