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Mukiri wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:...And don't make excuses because I doubt anyone will frown upon you if you still insist on washing your a$$ with water, after your conversion. @Mukiri, your own Bible Deut chapter 23:10 says: Mtu asiye na tohara, hafai kuingia kituo cha kuombea. Kwa nini aoge maji? " Unajisi katika Kambi. Ikiwa mtu amechafuka kwa sababu ya kutokwa na shahawa usiku, inampasa atoke nje ya kambi na kukaa huko.
Lakini jioni ikikaribia ataoga na baada ya jua kuzama ataingia tena kambini." I'm trying to be very patient. But forgive me when I say if you don't clean your behind after going for a long call, then you will find your underpants soiled, or the behind smells when you pass by somebody's face. Check your pant and you'll see the dirt smeared underneath. You're laughing, but the laugh is actually on you. Muslims have been given the best etiquettes for relieving oneself. I always ask people to clean themselves even if they're not Muslims to avoid these kind of embarrassment. Because, in it are benefits and rewards. It is not only you who are ignorant of the fact that if you clean yourself with tissue paper only, then that part still remains unclean and it leaves whitish patch on the behind, which is smelly. Try this tomorrow and see the difference, you'll not see any trace of dirt in your pant like the lady below coutesy of @Washiku Just to you another verse. Yesu alitumia nini? John 13:4 Yesu akasema asiye tawadha, yeye hana shirika naye, wakati Petro alikataa kufuata Yesu. Umeshawai kutawadha? Unashirika na Yesu? When Petro realised he would loose Jesus's friendship, he said "as Moses taught; head, hands and feet " hivyo aliondoka chakulani, akavua vazi Lake la nje, akajifunga kitambaa kiunoni. Kisha akamimina maji kwenye sinia na kuanza kuwanawisha wanafunzi Wake miguu. na kuikausha kwa kile kitambaa alichokuwa amejifunga kiunoni." I'm also trying to be very patient with you. Let me repeat myself incase you didn't understand. Come over to Christianity with your small bucket of water. Nobody will frown upon you because there is nowhere in the Bible it is forbidden. The Spirit of Christ is that of God dying for Man, and resurrecting Man from death and giving eternal life. It's a Spirit of 'going to'. To ask others to 'come over' is to deny Christ. And God.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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peappeng wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:...And don't make excuses because I doubt anyone will frown upon you if you still insist on washing your a$$ with water, after your conversion. @Mukiri, your own Bible Deut chapter 23:10 says: Mtu asiye na tohara, hafai kuingia kituo cha kuombea. Kwa nini aoge maji? " Unajisi katika Kambi. Ikiwa mtu amechafuka kwa sababu ya kutokwa na shahawa usiku, inampasa atoke nje ya kambi na kukaa huko.
Lakini jioni ikikaribia ataoga na baada ya jua kuzama ataingia tena kambini." I'm trying to be very patient. But forgive me when I say if you don't clean your behind after going for a long call, then you will find your underpants soiled, or the behind smells when you pass by somebody's face. Check your pant and you'll see the dirt smeared underneath. You're laughing, but the laugh is actually on you. Muslims have been given the best etiquettes for relieving oneself. I always ask people to clean themselves even if they're not Muslims to avoid these kind of embarrassment. Because, in it are benefits and rewards. It is not only you who are ignorant of the fact that if you clean yourself with tissue paper only, then that part still remains unclean and it leaves whitish patch on the behind, which is smelly. Try this tomorrow and see the difference, you'll not see any trace of dirt in your pant like the lady below coutesy of @WashikuJust to you another verse. Yesu alitumia nini? John 13:4 Yesu akasema asiye tawadha, yeye hana shirika naye, wakati Petro alikataa kufuata Yesu. Umeshawai kutawadha? Unashirika na Yesu? When Petro realised he would loose Jesus's friendship, he said "as Moses taught; head, hands and feet " hivyo aliondoka chakulani, akavua vazi Lake la nje, akajifunga kitambaa kiunoni. Kisha akamimina maji kwenye sinia na kuanza kuwanawisha wanafunzi Wake miguu. na kuikausha kwa kile kitambaa alichokuwa amejifunga kiunoni." One thing I respect you @alphadoti for is that you often have facts and you don't limit your knowledge to the Quran. Much respect. Thank @peappeng.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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tycho wrote:Mukiri wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:...And don't make excuses because I doubt anyone will frown upon you if you still insist on washing your a$$ with water, after your conversion. @Mukiri, your own Bible Deut chapter 23:10 says: Mtu asiye na tohara, hafai kuingia kituo cha kuombea. Kwa nini aoge maji? " Unajisi katika Kambi. Ikiwa mtu amechafuka kwa sababu ya kutokwa na shahawa usiku, inampasa atoke nje ya kambi na kukaa huko.
Lakini jioni ikikaribia ataoga na baada ya jua kuzama ataingia tena kambini." I'm trying to be very patient. But forgive me when I say if you don't clean your behind after going for a long call, then you will find your underpants soiled, or the behind smells when you pass by somebody's face. Check your pant and you'll see the dirt smeared underneath. You're laughing, but the laugh is actually on you. Muslims have been given the best etiquettes for relieving oneself. I always ask people to clean themselves even if they're not Muslims to avoid these kind of embarrassment. Because, in it are benefits and rewards. It is not only you who are ignorant of the fact that if you clean yourself with tissue paper only, then that part still remains unclean and it leaves whitish patch on the behind, which is smelly. Try this tomorrow and see the difference, you'll not see any trace of dirt in your pant like the lady below coutesy of @WashikuJust to you another verse. Yesu alitumia nini? John 13:4 Yesu akasema asiye tawadha, yeye hana shirika naye, wakati Petro alikataa kufuata Yesu. Umeshawai kutawadha? Unashirika na Yesu? When Petro realised he would loose Jesus's friendship, he said "as Moses taught; head, hands and feet " hivyo aliondoka chakulani, akavua vazi Lake la nje, akajifunga kitambaa kiunoni. Kisha akamimina maji kwenye sinia na kuanza kuwanawisha wanafunzi Wake miguu. na kuikausha kwa kile kitambaa alichokuwa amejifunga kiunoni." I'm also trying to be very patient with you. Let me repeat myself incase you didn't understand. Come over to Christianity with your small bucket of water. Nobody will frown upon you because there is nowhere in the Bible it is forbidden. The Spirit of Christ is that of God dying for Man, and resurrecting Man from death and giving eternal life. It's a Spirit of 'going to'. To ask others to 'come over' is to deny Christ. And God. Matt 7:21 Jesus says: " None of those who call me lord will enter the kingdom of God, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven." Question is, are you doing God's Will? Anyone who says, not my will but God will is a Muslim. Muslim means the one submits his will to the will of God. Jesus Christ (pbuh) says, not my will but God's will. What do Muslims believe about Jesus? - He was a Muslim, and he was one of the mightiest messenger of God. - We believe that he was born miraculously without any male intervention. - We believe he gave life to the death with God's permission. - We beleive he healed those born blind & deaf with God's permission. - We respect Jesus Christ as one of the mightiest messengers of God - But he's not God and he's not a part of a trinity. Trinity does not exist. Have you ever read the nicea creed? This is what Jesus taught: Not my will, but God's will 1. John 14:28 - Jesus says: My father is greater than I. 2. John 10:29 - Jesus says: My Fatrher is greater than all. 3. Matt 12:18 - Jesus says: I cast out devils with the spirit of God. 4. Luke 11:20 - Jesus says: I with the finger of God cast out devils. 5. John 05:30 - Jesus says: I can't of my own do nothing. AS I hear, I judge. For I speak not of my will, but the will of my Father. 6. Mark 13:32 - Jesus says: No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, not the son, but only the Father. 7. Luke 4:8 - Jesus says: It is written: 'worship the Lord your God and serve Him only' 8. Luke 11:2 - Jesus says: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be thy name, may your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Muslims believe in all prophets of God, including Jesus (peace be upon him). There is a whole chapter in the Quran named Sura Mariam, dedicated to the mother of Jesus (pbuh). Here you will find all the stories of the birth and works of Jesus Christ (pbuh). Say (O Muslims), " We believe in God and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Ibrahim (Abraham), Ismail (Ishmael), Ishaque (Isaac), Yaqub (Jacob), and to Al-Asbat [the twelve sons of Yaqub (Jacob)], and that which has been given to Mûsa (Moses) and 'Iesa (Jesus), and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted." (Quran 2:136)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Lol...Haki wewe 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:Lol...Haki wewe Hahahhaahaa. ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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McReggae wrote:washiku wrote:Lol...Haki wewe Hahahhaahaa. I'm reminded of a popular song by Them Mushrooms. Umekwisha potea; Umekwisha potea; Umekwisha poteeeeaaaa kwa kunywa ch@....@@
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/9/2011 Posts: 786 Location: Mashinani
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@Alphadoti John 10:30. ( Jesus said) I and my Father are one. Peace in our Homeland.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/16/2011 Posts: 59
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LOL ,Guka....!  I can sense the exasperation setting in.Muslims often err by trying to interpret religious scriptures belonging to other faiths in accordance to Islamic teachings.This is the case here.Instead of quoting Matt 7:21 ,which is dealing with God's will,It would have been more helpful AlphaDoti understood the christian teaching on this subject and then proceeded to give his critique. example: If Jesus was Muslim. From my understanding of Islam a muslim has to observe the 5 pillars of Islam. Did Jesus observe Jihad? I don't think the solution of giving the young man 4 wives would have worked.He still would have wanted more ,such is the mind of man. point to ponder: Between the very liberal German society and the ultra conservative Saudi Arabian culture,which one has a lower crime index?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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@AlphDoti, I can understand how Christ was a Muslim. Or rather, how Islam associates with Christ. And I have no problem with that; afterall, I am also a Muslim!
When you think about all this religious language you begin to get dizzy. Why? A key ingredient to this whole puzzle of life is what we do everyday and how it relates with what we say. Everything else is a prop.
Like now, this thread had taken a beautiful twist that offered a glimpse into our inner mind. Forgive me, but I am most interested in the matter of pictures in the head, and what it means, and how it reflects on what we say.
Only then can others begin to see how and why you say Christ was a Muslim.
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