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A letter to Kenyans Abroad - by bikozulu
masukuma
#81 Posted : Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:43:32 AM
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some people pick those accents as soon as they get a visa!
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Ric dees
#82 Posted : Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:06:29 PM
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Early this year i attended a funeral in the slopes and as the pastor preached he mentioned in his mother tongue the way people come now holding "dasani's" beacuse the water from the taps will make their stomachs churn and just the other day they used to bathe in the river all day - No doubt he was talking about the fellows from "Towns" with their oversize shades clutching bottled water.He continued his lecture on mannerisms and i have to admit i got his brief however what i could not get my head-round was where all this was coming from?

Now i have lived in Europe/US for 12 yrs and counting having gone through Uni/Grad school here as well no doubt i have picked an accent. So i will not try to delve in the merits and demerits no will i justify it thats just the way i am.

However what strikes/worries me is the "attacks"
on each other and just like the pastor i cannot get my head why/where all this is coming from.
Dare i say "relative poverty" is more dangerous than absolute povery and i think this is what ails majority of us.

Could it be there is a tinkling of jezebel in most of us and we cannot stand different from the people we dont think they deserve it??

I remember when i was graduating in Grad school JK Rawlings was the key speaker and she talked about "The importance of failure in success" and success will always be perceived 2-fold and the less successful "by their own measure" will always fawn over others "perceived" more successful, and this i have seen it repeat itself time and again in my various trips to KE.

So like the pastor in the slopes what really is ailing us as a society? if one wants to drink dasani so be it - The need to be recognised surely is a big burden in most of us and will surely destroy many..

PS: Two weeks ago i was in KE and was driving along Arwings Khodhek in a Mazda Demio, across the road an old acquitance saw me in his BIG Allion and he shouted "sasa xxxx naona bado uko huko chini"... and drove off..i have never laughed so hard.

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kiterunner
#83 Posted : Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:43:57 PM
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Location: Nairobi
Lolest! wrote:
kiterunner wrote:


Using the username drunkard a few years ago you could barely complete your posts in English, kwani kwenu mlikua mnaongea nini, aii yawa

Good English is not a requirement to work for a Fortune 500 company. You just need to smell good and be arrogantsmile




Applause Applause Applause Applause LMAO
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Rollout
#84 Posted : Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:50:31 PM
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kiterunner wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
kiterunner wrote:


Using the username drunkard a few years ago you could barely complete your posts in English, kwani kwenu mlikua mnaongea nini, aii yawa

Good English is not a requirement to work for a Fortune 500 company. You just need to smell good and be arrogantsmile




Applause Applause Applause Applause LMAO


Excuse me! Drunkard is still my first name and yes my writing is still very bad. You can write the best english but if you can't speak it no one will give you a job, my resume was written by my college career advisor! infact it is only Wazuans who know my English is bad.......

Yes being arrogant actually helps.... and yes if you smell like sweats nobody will hire you, not in the West!
kiriita
#85 Posted : Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:04:00 PM
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Just wondering whether this war (re:cologne et al) is good or bad for our very own @Pierce's biashara?
ZZE123
#86 Posted : Wednesday, August 28, 2013 6:05:40 PM
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Joined: 6/21/2008
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Ric dees wrote:
PS: Two weeks ago i was in KE and was driving along Arwings Khodhek in a Mazda Demio, across the road an old acquitance saw me in his BIG Allion and he shouted "sasa xxxx naona bado uko huko chini"... and drove off..i have never laughed so hard.

smile smile smile
The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
ecstacy
#87 Posted : Wednesday, August 28, 2013 8:12:34 PM
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masukuma wrote:
some people pick those accents as soon as they get a visa!

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kiterunner
#88 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:24:40 AM
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Joined: 7/9/2011
Posts: 730
Location: Nairobi
Rollout wrote:
kiterunner wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
kiterunner wrote:


Using the username drunkard a few years ago you could barely complete your posts in English, kwani kwenu mlikua mnaongea nini, aii yawa

Good English is not a requirement to work for a Fortune 500 company. You just need to smell good and be arrogantsmile




Applause Applause Applause Applause LMAO


Excuse me! Drunkard is still my first name and yes my writing is still very bad. You can write the best english but if you can't speak it no one will give you a job, my resume was written by my college career advisor! infact it is only Wazuans who know my English is bad.......

Yes being arrogant actually helps.... and yes if you smell like sweats nobody will hire you, not in the West!


You claimed you learnt kaleo majuu, so I wondered with such horrible English what did you guys speak at home?

By the way speaking with an accent is important in some sectors ie teaching, custome care, waitressing ... but not all. In some jobs (the kind i would be interested in) I can keep my Kenyan accent and not give a care and still have a fulfilling career. So hii nyef nyef ya accent is everything mimi hapana tambua.


our goals are best achieved indirectly
Rollout
#89 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:05:54 AM
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Joined: 4/26/2011
Posts: 759
kiterunner wrote:
Rollout wrote:
kiterunner wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
kiterunner wrote:


Using the username drunkard a few years ago you could barely complete your posts in English, kwani kwenu mlikua mnaongea nini, aii yawa

Good English is not a requirement to work for a Fortune 500 company. You just need to smell good and be arrogantsmile




Applause Applause Applause Applause LMAO


Excuse me! Drunkard is still my first name and yes my writing is still very bad. You can write the best english but if you can't speak it no one will give you a job, my resume was written by my college career advisor! infact it is only Wazuans who know my English is bad.......

Yes being arrogant actually helps.... and yes if you smell like sweats nobody will hire you, not in the West!


You claimed you learnt kaleo majuu, so I wondered with such horrible English what did you guys speak at home?

By the way speaking with an accent is important in some sectors ie teaching, custome care, waitressing ... but not all. In some jobs (the kind i would be interested in) I can keep my Kenyan accent and not give a care and still have a fulfilling career. So hii nyef nyef ya accent is everything mimi hapana tambua.



You have to separate speaking and writing! At home we spoke horrible swahili! Of course there are jobs you don't need to talk to anyone but every meaningful job has some aspect of customer care.... even your manager is your customer you need to communicate with him!
kiterunner
#90 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:34:09 AM
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Joined: 7/9/2011
Posts: 730
Location: Nairobi
Rollout wrote:
kiterunner wrote:
Rollout wrote:
kiterunner wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
kiterunner wrote:


Using the username drunkard a few years ago you could barely complete your posts in English, kwani kwenu mlikua mnaongea nini, aii yawa

Good English is not a requirement to work for a Fortune 500 company. You just need to smell good and be arrogantsmile




Applause Applause Applause Applause LMAO


Excuse me! Drunkard is still my first name and yes my writing is still very bad. You can write the best english but if you can't speak it no one will give you a job, my resume was written by my college career advisor! infact it is only Wazuans who know my English is bad.......

Yes being arrogant actually helps.... and yes if you smell like sweats nobody will hire you, not in the West!


You claimed you learnt kaleo majuu, so I wondered with such horrible English what did you guys speak at home?

By the way speaking with an accent is important in some sectors ie teaching, custome care, waitressing ... but not all. In some jobs (the kind i would be interested in) I can keep my Kenyan accent and not give a care and still have a fulfilling career. So hii nyef nyef ya accent is everything mimi hapana tambua.



You have to separate speaking and writing! At home we spoke horrible swahili! Of course there are jobs you don't need to talk to anyone but every meaningful job has some aspect of customer care.... even your manager is your customer you need to communicate with him!



If it is true you went to University (not community college) you may have come across several foreign born scientists and professors whose accent you wouldnt call American by any standard. Any way you digress on the accent business

So let me get this straight. You are struggling to write in English, speak with super fluent American accent (but do you say), just learnt kaleo in majuu, super arrogant and in your words very successful (and do not smell kenyan of course)
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