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Garden City Thika Road
S.Mutaga III
#81 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2015 1:17:15 PM
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madollar wrote:
premio wrote:
lots of hype about Massmart game found it smaller than the smallets tuskys or naivas around nothing new only a few low quality xenophopia products Nakkumat miles ahead. TRM still stands out.garden city interior works 70% incomplete


Once complete TRM will look like a ka bedsitter compared to garden city.TRM sales will also nosedive due to its proximity to garden city infact it might be the biggest casualty of all the malls that will be located along the highway


I beg to differ because of one reason...the location of garden city favors people heading towards town...nobody shops while going to work...TRM is located in such a way it targets those coming from town towards their homes in Kahawa or Membley etc...so personally, I think Garden City will pay for that little inconvenience. People will only shop in Garden City during weekends when they have all the time in the world.
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#82 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2015 1:24:28 PM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
madollar wrote:
premio wrote:
lots of hype about Massmart game found it smaller than the smallets tuskys or naivas around nothing new only a few low quality xenophopia products Nakkumat miles ahead. TRM still stands out.garden city interior works 70% incomplete


Once complete TRM will look like a ka bedsitter compared to garden city.TRM sales will also nosedive due to its proximity to garden city infact it might be the biggest casualty of all the malls that will be located along the highway


I beg to differ because of one reason...the location of garden city favors people heading towards town...nobody shops while going to work...TRM is located in such a way it targets those coming from town towards their homes in Kahawa or Membley etc...so personally, I think Garden City will pay for that little inconvenience. People will only shop in Garden City during weekends when they have all the time in the world.

True.I was at TRM over the weekend and there was a massive crowd as usual.To get in and out of Garden city is a big headache and a nightmare.In fact The Two rivers may have a bigger impact as opposed to the Garden City.Consumers will try to avoid the traffic around Roysambu/Zimmerman.
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Bachuma Gate
#83 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2015 2:00:13 PM
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TRM is better placed. The many flats sorrounding it provide a ready pool of clients apart from the drive ins. Remember these flats house the fellows who love the mall culture and like spending.
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murchr
#84 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2015 2:23:08 PM
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In the west,the rich usually prefer not to have malls in their vicinity because they attract traffic and idlers. Will that happen in Kenya?
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#85 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2015 3:07:32 PM
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Bachuma Gate wrote:
TRM is better placed. The many flats sorrounding it provide a ready pool of clients apart from the drive ins. Remember these flats house the fellows who love the mall culture and like spending.


A little birdie tells me most shops in TRM are closing down.Business has been bad.With the exception of Nakumatt and maybe the eateries and banks,hao wengine breakeven is a problem.

The surrounding population much as they love spending do not want to be reaped off.Take for example the shoe shop there.Few guys will buy a 20 k shoe from them.Sketchers for kids going for 8k is not for that market.Worse still you will get them in Gikomba at 1k or 1.5k max.

I did not like Garden city.Messy entrance and did not see anything out of the ordinary.

Meanwhile what became of Taj Mall.Less than 40% occupancy??
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#86 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2015 3:09:47 PM
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Wamunyota wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
madollar wrote:
premio wrote:
lots of hype about Massmart game found it smaller than the smallets tuskys or naivas around nothing new only a few low quality xenophopia products Nakkumat miles ahead. TRM still stands out.garden city interior works 70% incomplete


Once complete TRM will look like a ka bedsitter compared to garden city.TRM sales will also nosedive due to its proximity to garden city infact it might be the biggest casualty of all the malls that will be located along the highway


I beg to differ because of one reason...the location of garden city favors people heading towards town...nobody shops while going to work...TRM is located in such a way it targets those coming from town towards their homes in Kahawa or Membley etc...so personally, I think Garden City will pay for that little inconvenience. People will only shop in Garden City during weekends when they have all the time in the world.

True.I was at TRM over the weekend and there was a massive crowd as usual.To get in and out of Garden city is a big headache and a nightmare.In fact The Two rivers may have a bigger impact as opposed to the Garden City.Consumers will try to avoid the traffic around Roysambu/Zimmerman.


Unless Limuru road is expanded, coupled with poor road etiquette by motorists, traffic on that road will a flaming nightmare once Mito Miwili is open.

Unless of course price and product discrimination are applied as mentioned by Bigchick - 'high end' products targeting 'high end' clientele
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Swenani
#87 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2015 3:39:17 PM
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murchr wrote:
In the west,the rich usually prefer not to have malls in their vicinity because they attract traffic and idlers. Will that happen in Kenya?


So us guys from Dandora are rich,we do not have a mall or a shopping complexSad Sad Sad Sad
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wa P
#88 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2015 3:41:33 PM
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nakujua wrote:
wa P wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
kiash wrote:
What is the future of these mall like ? Wazuan Experts mko wapy? i saw in some cities in the US where actually malls came from there are several that have become ghost malls.Customers stopped coming and so the traders had to close shop.Am just wondering how long this craze will last in Kenya and especially in Nai.Before the construction of garden mall, there used to be that kamall with Naivas next to where Nakumatt used to be. Then came TRM @roysambu. Now garden mall.There will be Naivas, Nakumatt and Massmart who will start the fight for customers.I hope this will be good for the customers but i do not know how long Naivas will last.Ask Uchumi jipange hapo kando .

Middo kless Kenians want to be seen to shop in malls hata kama ni shopping ya maziwa na mkate

We will pour on the malls, however many they are like mist-to utilise an african proverb


My take:
Junction is on high noon due to impossible access; its next stab on glory is when (if) Ngong road will be expanded.

Galleria: will thrive due to diaspora and Langata people. they are also diversifying into variety center (shops, sports...) and boy they have land!.

Garden City....accessibility may be an issue. Unless they attract customers from far flung areas, the immediate demography does not inspire much confidence.

Two Rivers and The Hub (Karen) will be the malls to beat.

....and to real estate investors - build something in Thika yawa (next to superhighway.)

How is accessibility to Garden City an issue, thought with the super highway access issues should be sorted.
Two rivers and the hub will be interesting to see how with time they will fair - considering a good chuck of their target market ni runda na karen, it will be interesting to see if the rich like hanging around malls, that mobil plaza huko muthaiga never seems to have life - though I have to admit I have never spent lots of time inside apart from buying mkate hapo chandarana.


Access to garden city is nightmare. Coming from town, you take exit 7 and spend several minutes fighting Githu buses which stop haphazardly towards Naivas. Then you cross bridge, cut through more traffic. Repeat same story getting out.
Not to mention the 30 min it took to do the 400m or so stretch to the security checks.

TRM has better access, and you find pretty much everything you'd find at Garden City, except South African potatoes.
ole3
#89 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2015 4:24:35 PM
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Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
In the west,the rich usually prefer not to have malls in their vicinity because they attract traffic and idlers. Will that happen in Kenya?


So us guys from Dandora are rich,we do not have a mall or a shopping complexSad Sad Sad Sad



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#90 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2015 4:56:27 PM
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Come to think of it...what is the selling prices for those houses that are next to Garden city now.. they must be doing Kitu 50M
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