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dnn
#81 Posted : Sunday, April 29, 2012 8:13:58 AM
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HOPE U DONT USE PEOPLE TO 'JUSTIFY'/REASSURE URSELF ABOUT NOT TAKING FAITH STEPS. IT'S GOD N U DIRECTLY RELATED AS LONG AS U BREATH ON UR SET OF LUNGS....''do not engage in endless discussions''....to what purpose
YOU SHOULD NOT MAKE FAITH DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT U SEE THOSE PEOPLE DO (though yes-they should be good examples) AS THEY R HUMANS LIKE U: WHAT IF PEOPLE LOOKED AT U-WHAT WLD THEY SAY.
Nabwire
#82 Posted : Sunday, April 29, 2012 8:24:42 AM
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And by the way Christianity did not borrow from the Torah, Christianity is based on the Torah. Jesus was actually a Jew and if you study His teachings, he bases His teachings on the Torah but Jews did not believe in Him so He went off and formed Christianity,ironically the Romans embraced Him which made the Jews dislike Jesus even more. But this is not a religious education post, just thought I should set stuff straight. And the books that were left out of the Bible are called the Apocrypha.
I wish someone could post the Disney logo so you can clearly see the 3 6's, stop trying to downplay everything I will ask my professor about this issue, hopefully he will give more insight but atleast I know for sure those secret societies exist. The debate should focus more on what their motive is. I dont really have a problem with their existence, what I have a problem with is them trying to initiate us into their world without our knowledge or consent, thats deception.
digitek1
#83 Posted : Sunday, April 29, 2012 9:00:33 AM
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Freemasonry is not a secret society. they are located hapo Serena B if you are interested.
they have secrets but are not a secret Society
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
Snazzy
#84 Posted : Sunday, April 29, 2012 9:50:23 AM
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@Nabwire if Christianity is based on the Torah why dont we keep the 613 Torah commandments?eat only kosher?have bar and bat mitzvahs?have segregated worship for men and women? etc

Jewish faith goes beyond belief,it is something you inherit because only people born from Jewish parents ,meaning one or both are considered true Jews.It is as much a product of culture/heritage as it is spiritual.

Christianity also became a state religion in Rome only thanks to Constantine and since he picked the one that most resonated with him,he left many others out which were present at that time.
Dont ask your professor for information,find out for yourself.In these days where information is all over no one holds a monopoly on the truth.Read for yourself.

We should stop labelling everything we do not understand secret.
Everyone with doubts about free masonry needs to make a visit to the free mason temple,i remember them saying they welcome visitors.Go see for yourself what they are all about.

Emperor Nero was once the 666,bar codes were symbols of satan the intrigues will never end on what 666 stands for ,yet the book of revelation was almost knocked off the Bible because people debated its message.Imagine how differently we would be seeing the world today without imagining the "devil in every detail"

“You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.”

― Anne Lamott
holycow
#85 Posted : Sunday, April 29, 2012 12:58:03 PM
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digitek1 wrote:
Freemasonry is not a secret society. they are located hapo Serena B if you are interested.
they have secrets but are not a secret Society


Yap, Freemasons are always highly misunderstood.

http://www.dgleastafrica.org/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17272611

@Alma
I like you sober arguments.
harrydre
#86 Posted : Sunday, April 29, 2012 5:16:28 PM
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It's a personal choice, if you choose to listen to songs that glorify sex and money, then there are high chances you will come across the devil and satan worshippers. After all he was an angel like the rest and he has his followers. Otherwise stick to gospel or other basic music like the smooth jazz and love songs.
i.am.back!!!!
kyt
#87 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 12:10:28 AM
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why would a sane man listen to songs that glorify bitches hoes sex and drugs? seriously? the same things that are destroying our society? u must be insane to listen to such kind of music...end of story.
LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
Nabwire
#88 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 12:28:56 AM
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Snazzy you definitely know how to dodge bullets! So now are you agreeing that secret societies do exist? So now you are on to arguing on the Christianity is based on the Torah concept? Based on means that it originated from Jewish traditions and then evolved into something else. Jesus was a Jew and He thought that the Jews would accept His teachings and follow Him, but they didnt, so he formed a sect and His first followers were Jewish. When Christianity took over from paganism as the religion of the Roman Empire, thats when a dramatic shift between Judaism and Christianity took place. My point is Christianity did not just borrow from the Torah, Christianity like Islam is based on the Torah, the old testament is the Torah! And please stop implying that this is an extremist Christian type of post, coz im nowhere close to being religious, I just like to ask questions and make my own judgemnts.
Ceinz I wouldnt really say that Bankers are evil. I love Capitalism and its just based on greed, bankers are greedy and exploit anyone who shows ignorance. I know you are implying that since Jews run Wallstreet, they control the world and are thus evil, in this instance I think they are just greedy, which in business is a good thing.
scout_boy
#89 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 1:59:13 AM
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Snazzy,

Quote:
@Nabwire if Christianity is based on the Torah why dont we keep the 613 Torah commandments?eat only kosher?have bar and bat mitzvahs?have segregated worship for men and women? etc

Jewish faith goes beyond belief,it is something you inherit because only people born from Jewish parents ,meaning one or both are considered true Jews.It is as much a product of culture/heritage as it is spiritual.


you have answered the question you posed i.e the reason christians dont follow this kosher laws is basically that some of them are jewish culture/customs.

Here are few facts:

-Judaism and christianity are not found in the Bible.


-Satan is mentioned a couple of times in the old testament:
e.g
Zechariah 3:1
Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at
his right side to accuse him.

1 Chronicles 21:1 Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.



Like most of the old testament ,ideas that are portrayed in the text,they are not fully developed.For instance themes such as:
-The role of the jews vs the gentiles
-Eschatology
-life after death.
etc.
are not lucid enough.
This is where the New Testament came in to seal such loops in our understanding.To rival this the talmud and midrashes of this world
multiplied and hence the rise of judaism.Rabbinical judaism.


-Christianity was not made an official religion under constantine but was made a legal religion i.e persecutions were stopped.


The New Testament was written by the jews themselves from the inspiration of Jesus.Go through any concordance and see the numerous references to Old testament(Tanakh) both in thoughts and words.


The two faiths are thus interlocked.Actually in one way christianity can be said to have put jews on the map.Think of all the empires of old the Egyptians, babylonians,the greeks,the persians mentioned in the OT .
Where are they now?They all pale in comparison to the jewish empire which is everywhere from business ,science ,philosophy ,Entertainment etc.



Vky and Tokyo,

Suppose,someone calls the Police and tells them there is a bomb placed inside parliament.It will not be correct for the police to ask the anonymous caller for more evidence.For the safety of the nation they would rather swing into action and sweep the whole of parliament looking for the bomb.

The point am making is that the burden of proof falls on you to go out there and prove God/Devil doesn't exist.


The spirit world exists otherwise we as humans would have discovered ages ago to be a hoax.The hordes one sees on t.v being healed must be to a large extent real because as humans we quickly identify what works and what doesn't.
These faith healers and sorcerers before they gain prominence they "market"themselves through word of mouth i.e they rely on individuals that can vouch for their expertise and mostly have experienced this spiritual world themselves...
Nabwire
#90 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 2:09:41 AM
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Wow Scout boy, I wish you could do my finals for me, you have a good grasp on Judaism. By the way Im not sure if the word devil does not exist in the Torah, but I know they do reference sheol, which means hell. So we are just arguing over technicalities.
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