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thuks
#1741 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:06:47 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
sqft wrote:
Habari ndiyo hiyo.

https://www.businessdail...52230-sqthn0/index.html

Quote:


The World Health organisation (WHO) warned on Wednesday that coronavirus may never go away and people will have to learn to live with it.

The warning from the UN health agency come even as some countries begin to ease social distancing restrictions that were enforced to curb the spread of the contagious virus.

β€œIt is important to put this on the table: this virus may become just another endemic virus in our communities, and this virus may never go away,” WHO emergencies chief Michael Ryan said.

β€œI think there are no promises in this and there are no dates. This disease may settle into a long problem, or it may not be.”

Dr Ryan said that just like HIV which has not gone away, the world must be prepared live with the new virus.

He said that even with a vaccine, it would take a massive effort to eliminate the virus, noting that some illnesses such as measles still exist despite having vaccines.


The China WHO smile


According to various preposterous conspiracy theories, China brought the virus but the beneficiaries are 'likely' to be American; the 'gates' and 'faucis'.
This world is not my home πŸ‘£πŸ‘£
I care!
Ngalaka
#1742 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:56:19 PM
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thuks wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
sqft wrote:
Habari ndiyo hiyo.

https://www.businessdail...52230-sqthn0/index.html

Quote:


The World Health organisation (WHO) warned on Wednesday that coronavirus may never go away and people will have to learn to live with it.

The warning from the UN health agency come even as some countries begin to ease social distancing restrictions that were enforced to curb the spread of the contagious virus.

β€œIt is important to put this on the table: this virus may become just another endemic virus in our communities, and this virus may never go away,” WHO emergencies chief Michael Ryan said.

β€œI think there are no promises in this and there are no dates. This disease may settle into a long problem, or it may not be.”

Dr Ryan said that just like HIV which has not gone away, the world must be prepared live with the new virus.

He said that even with a vaccine, it would take a massive effort to eliminate the virus, noting that some illnesses such as measles still exist despite having vaccines.


The China WHO smile


According to various preposterous conspiracy theories, China brought the virus but the beneficiaries are 'likely' to be American; the 'gates' and 'faucis'.
This world is not my home πŸ‘£πŸ‘£

please elaborate!

NB; Fauci might very well be fired!
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
limanika
#1743 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:05:22 PM
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sqft wrote:
Habari ndiyo hiyo.

https://www.businessdail...52230-sqthn0/index.html

Quote:


The World Health organisation (WHO) warned on Wednesday that coronavirus may never go away and people will have to learn to live with it.

The warning from the UN health agency come even as some countries begin to ease social distancing restrictions that were enforced to curb the spread of the contagious virus.

β€œIt is important to put this on the table: this virus may become just another endemic virus in our communities, and this virus may never go away,” WHO emergencies chief Michael Ryan said.

β€œI think there are no promises in this and there are no dates. This disease may settle into a long problem, or it may not be.”

Dr Ryan said that just like HIV which has not gone away, the world must be prepared live with the new virus.

He said that even with a vaccine, it would take a massive effort to eliminate the virus, noting that some illnesses such as measles still exist despite having vaccines.

WHO is just telling govts ( indirectly) to start thinking of how to reopen lockdowns and get back to business
Queen
#1744 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:42:46 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:
thuks wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
sqft wrote:
Habari ndiyo hiyo.

https://www.businessdail...52230-sqthn0/index.html

Quote:


The World Health organisation (WHO) warned on Wednesday that coronavirus may never go away and people will have to learn to live with it.

The warning from the UN health agency come even as some countries begin to ease social distancing restrictions that were enforced to curb the spread of the contagious virus.

β€œIt is important to put this on the table: this virus may become just another endemic virus in our communities, and this virus may never go away,” WHO emergencies chief Michael Ryan said.

β€œI think there are no promises in this and there are no dates. This disease may settle into a long problem, or it may not be.”

Dr Ryan said that just like HIV which has not gone away, the world must be prepared live with the new virus.

He said that even with a vaccine, it would take a massive effort to eliminate the virus, noting that some illnesses such as measles still exist despite having vaccines.


The China WHO smile


According to various preposterous conspiracy theories, China brought the virus but the beneficiaries are 'likely' to be American; the 'gates' and 'faucis'.
This world is not my home πŸ‘£πŸ‘£

please elaborate!

NB; Fauci might very well be fired!


Vaccine.
sqft
#1745 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2020 10:04:24 PM
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limanika wrote:
sqft wrote:
Habari ndiyo hiyo.

https://www.businessdail...52230-sqthn0/index.html

Quote:


The World Health organisation (WHO) warned on Wednesday that coronavirus may never go away and people will have to learn to live with it.

The warning from the UN health agency come even as some countries begin to ease social distancing restrictions that were enforced to curb the spread of the contagious virus.

β€œIt is important to put this on the table: this virus may become just another endemic virus in our communities, and this virus may never go away,” WHO emergencies chief Michael Ryan said.

β€œI think there are no promises in this and there are no dates. This disease may settle into a long problem, or it may not be.”

Dr Ryan said that just like HIV which has not gone away, the world must be prepared to live with the new virus.

He said that even with a vaccine, it would take a massive effort to eliminate the virus, noting that some illnesses such as measles still exist despite having vaccines.

WHO is just telling govts ( indirectly) to start thinking of how to reopen lockdowns and get back to business



Very true. WHO is saying that mass testing, quarantines, curfews and lockdowns are upus. Govts should wait for corona patients at hospitals just like they wait for malaria patients. Magufuli PhD was right.

Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
murchr
#1746 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2020 11:12:33 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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masukuma
#1747 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2020 12:11:10 AM
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Location: Nairobi
sqft wrote:
limanika wrote:
sqft wrote:
Habari ndiyo hiyo.

https://www.businessdail...52230-sqthn0/index.html

Quote:


The World Health organisation (WHO) warned on Wednesday that coronavirus may never go away and people will have to learn to live with it.

The warning from the UN health agency come even as some countries begin to ease social distancing restrictions that were enforced to curb the spread of the contagious virus.

β€œIt is important to put this on the table: this virus may become just another endemic virus in our communities, and this virus may never go away,” WHO emergencies chief Michael Ryan said.

β€œI think there are no promises in this and there are no dates. This disease may settle into a long problem, or it may not be.”

Dr Ryan said that just like HIV which has not gone away, the world must be prepared to live with the new virus.

He said that even with a vaccine, it would take a massive effort to eliminate the virus, noting that some illnesses such as measles still exist despite having vaccines.

WHO is just telling govts ( indirectly) to start thinking of how to reopen lockdowns and get back to business



Very true. WHO is saying that mass testing, quarantines, curfews and lockdowns are upus. Govts should wait for corona patients at hospitals just like they wait for malaria patients. Magufuli PhD was right.



Not all measures are the same and when they are applied also yield different results.
A good example is "disciplining a child - you discipline them when they are young... if you waste the child's youth - it's pointless to discipline them when they are 21. At that point - just wait for you to be summoned to court or a morgue".
Countries that did not waste time at the beginning of this thing don't have a grown 21-year-old in their midst... amejaa ndevu and you can't even beat them! The difference between New Zealand and Magufuli is "let the kid be - whatever the kid ends up being... shauri yake!". The US tried spanking an 18-year-old. The Kid grows each week wasted in indecision.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
radiomast
#1748 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2020 6:40:32 PM
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sqft wrote:



Very true. WHO is saying that mass testing, quarantines, curfews and lockdowns are upus. Govts should wait for corona patients at hospitals just like they wait for malaria patients. Magufuli PhD was right.



So in other words, just let people die?

Also Covid 19 is much worse than Malaria. Malaria doesn't spread from person to person. It must be carried by a certain type of mosquito. Thats why it doesn't infect many people so quickly. Covid 19 can spread simply by talking to a person who has it. Or by touching something he touched 3 days ago.
Shak
#1749 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2020 7:17:41 PM
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murchr wrote:

I'm glad to have finally learnt the link between climate change and new diseases. Great interview.
thuks
#1750 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2020 7:18:04 PM
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Joined: 10/8/2008
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Queen wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
thuks wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
sqft wrote:
Habari ndiyo hiyo.

https://www.businessdail...52230-sqthn0/index.html

Quote:


The World Health organisation (WHO) warned on Wednesday that coronavirus may never go away and people will have to learn to live with it.

The warning from the UN health agency come even as some countries begin to ease social distancing restrictions that were enforced to curb the spread of the contagious virus.

β€œIt is important to put this on the table: this virus may become just another endemic virus in our communities, and this virus may never go away,” WHO emergencies chief Michael Ryan said.

β€œI think there are no promises in this and there are no dates. This disease may settle into a long problem, or it may not be.”

Dr Ryan said that just like HIV which has not gone away, the world must be prepared live with the new virus.

He said that even with a vaccine, it would take a massive effort to eliminate the virus, noting that some illnesses such as measles still exist despite having vaccines.


The China WHO smile


According to various preposterous conspiracy theories, China brought the virus but the beneficiaries are 'likely' to be American; the 'gates' and 'faucis'.
This world is not my home πŸ‘£πŸ‘£

please elaborate!

NB; Fauci might very well be fired!


Vaccine.

Correct
I care!
mpobiz
#1751 Posted : Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:50:57 AM
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Joined: 8/10/2010
Posts: 2,264
masukuma wrote:
sqft wrote:
limanika wrote:
sqft wrote:
Habari ndiyo hiyo.

https://www.businessdail...52230-sqthn0/index.html

Quote:


The World Health organisation (WHO) warned on Wednesday that coronavirus may never go away and people will have to learn to live with it.

The warning from the UN health agency come even as some countries begin to ease social distancing restrictions that were enforced to curb the spread of the contagious virus.

β€œIt is important to put this on the table: this virus may become just another endemic virus in our communities, and this virus may never go away,” WHO emergencies chief Michael Ryan said.

β€œI think there are no promises in this and there are no dates. This disease may settle into a long problem, or it may not be.”

Dr Ryan said that just like HIV which has not gone away, the world must be prepared to live with the new virus.

He said that even with a vaccine, it would take a massive effort to eliminate the virus, noting that some illnesses such as measles still exist despite having vaccines.

WHO is just telling govts ( indirectly) to start thinking of how to reopen lockdowns and get back to business



Very true. WHO is saying that mass testing, quarantines, curfews and lockdowns are upus. Govts should wait for corona patients at hospitals just like they wait for malaria patients. Magufuli PhD was right.



Not all measures are the same and when they are applied also yield different results.
A good example is "disciplining a child - you discipline them when they are young... if you waste the child's youth - it's pointless to discipline them when they are 21. At that point - just wait for you to be summoned to court or a morgue".
Countries that did not waste time at the beginning of this thing don't have a grown 21-year-old in their midst... amejaa ndevu and you can't even beat them! The difference between New Zealand and Magufuli is "let the kid be - whatever the kid ends up being... shauri yake!". The US tried spanking an 18-year-old. The Kid grows each week wasted in indecision.


It seems even the WHO listened to the voice of reason instead of people (i won't mention any names) who come wielding charts , curves ,graphs and to top it all useless complex mathematics.

Ukweli WHO haitaki upus
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
mpobiz
#1752 Posted : Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:21:26 AM
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Sasa hesabu haikuingiana, tutaambia nini watu? Overheard somewhere in Europe.

https://youtu.be/BJ0IGyRD4aQ

Tujitayarishe from Saturday .. tuendelee kuchapa kazi

Magufuli juu juu juu zaidi!!!
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
sqft
#1753 Posted : Saturday, May 16, 2020 11:15:11 AM
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Dawa imepatikana. No wonder smokers are less likely to get corona.

https://www.telegraph.co...-19-prompting-nicotine/


Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
sqft
#1754 Posted : Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:16:16 PM
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Thousands march in Pennsylvania demanding end to lockdown.







"Jesus is my vaccine".



Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
sqft
#1755 Posted : Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:01:23 PM
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Thousands march in Pennsylvania demanding end to lockdown.
















Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
Angelica _ann
#1756 Posted : Saturday, May 16, 2020 3:18:58 PM
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21 more days curfew to 6th June, smile smile smile. Hii blind copycat leadership itaisha lini?
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sqft
#1757 Posted : Saturday, May 16, 2020 4:25:59 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
21 more days curfew to 6th June, smile smile smile. Hii blind copycat leadership itaisha lini?


Better safe than sorry.


Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
sqft
#1758 Posted : Saturday, May 16, 2020 4:40:59 PM
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Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
masukuma
#1759 Posted : Saturday, May 16, 2020 6:28:45 PM
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While acknowledging that Correlation doesn't mean Causality - there is a plausible explanation (or at most one of the 'factors') why Black People seem to be dying more from this disease in the higher latitude countries. Vitamin D or at least the deficiency of it. It's a proven fact that Vitamin D really assists in the body fighting respiratory diseases. While black people have lots of biological advantages - synthesis of Vitamin D is not one of them. Why? Melanin! our dark skin (an adaptation to prevent us from dying from skin cancers) prevents us from generating Vitamin D in large quantities when in high latitude countries. Generally - 47% of older people in northern countries are Vitamin D deficient during winter - this number shoots to 84% of older African American men and women. Perhaps this may be that the reason 'seasonal flu' in the US is prevalent in Winter is for the same reason - not everyone is synthesizing Vitamin D (just a theory...). When they compared the cases of people who got infected in a place like Florida vs Northern States like Illinois - Florida has fewer dead people coz of Covid. Florida also has lots more older people and it seems that sitting in the sun may help. Perhaps the lockdowns i.e. keeping people indoors where they cannot synthesize the Vitamin is counterproductive in that way. What needs to be explored is how this observation explains the cases in Australia (it was summer... do they all like staying indoors during the heat of winter?), Ecuador, Brazil are more pronounced in people who are indoors more? Old people and Invalids for example? Young children who play outside in school may fare better because of the mandatory breaks and games times compared to 'hard-working' office people. There are close to 44 countries with 10 active cases or less and most of them are island nations (fish diets and lots of sunshine).

How would this affect us? I reckon most of the people that live by the coasts and eat fish or expose themselves to lots of uninterrupted sunlight would fare better than those who don't. Women in Islamic societies that cover themselves from head to toe would not synthesize the vitamin D. Well - if you work in an office then from the office - you get into a car and never really stay out in the sun - you may not be synthesizing enough Vitamin D regardless of how much sun is out there. we are going into a 'cold' season - most people will be covered kabisa, will stay indoors and my not synthesize enough vitamin D. The West African diet is considered one of the best diets on the planet (rich with fish)... could that explain their low mortality? My advice is while engaging in the well-understood measures - Social Distancing and Avoiding Crowds, Sanitizing Surfaces, Wearing Masks, Staying at home when you can - add a good diet and swallow multi-vitamin tablets. Encourage good diets and vitamin supplements to be taken by your relatives.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
masukuma
#1760 Posted : Saturday, May 16, 2020 6:42:45 PM
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sqft wrote:
Thousands march in Pennsylvania demanding end to lockdown.


















Remember New York running out of morgues in March and using refrigerated trucks to store the corpses?
the FDA in the US has authorized these vehicles to go back to their typical purpose of hauling food β€” even if blood or other bodily fluids leaked inside, in some cases.

We should not copy the US - they are a failure on this matter!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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