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Madness at the NSE
VituVingiSana
#1231 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 1:10:09 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,342
Location: Nairobi
Superprime1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Second half begins today.
What are the projections


It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue.

The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that.

If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000

Bringing manufacturing back to the USA (from China) is not going to be easy nor will it be immediate. I have to say Trump is doing what many US presidents were afraid of doing. Perhaps the "mad antics" of Trump will only be appreciated after many years.

In Kenya, we need a Trump-like approach to many aspects e.g. manufacturing. I look at our supermarket shelves and feel like crying.

We need to reduce the amount/value of imports that we can manufacture cost effectively... We need to reduce the level of corruption and costs it takes to bring goods to market.

We need to train more Kenyans to do jobs that have been outsourced including maintaining the railway and roads let alone building infrastructure.

We need to find more ways to trade with our neighbors. Not an easy task but we need to collaborate with the Ugandans, Rwandans and even Tanzanians to "Make It In East Africa"...

China is not our friend. SA is xenophobic and only wants to export to us. Even the Middle East is exporting non-oil goods to us while hardly taking in our exports except vegetables/fruits. India looks out for itself. USA has MAGA. EU only wants our natural resources and what it cannot grow.

I am not saying we should close off our economy but we need to make it more profitable to be a manufacturer so more Kenyans invest in factories.


You need to take a stand man. You vigorously opposed my idea to protect Kenyan skies for KQ.

My bad! When did KQ get into manufacturing anything but losses?


Wondering about the same: protecting Kenyan skies for KQ Vs encouraging manufacturing/value addition are totally different. In my layman's understanding, the impact of the latter would be immense for the economy (think jobs & disposable incomes, higher export income that would calibrate the country's Balance of Trade etc.). KQ just needs to be competitive and move away from Naikuni & co. 'strategies' that flew it into the red.
Applause Applause Applause
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Pesa Nane
#1232 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 3:55:33 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 5/25/2012
Posts: 4,105
Location: 08c
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Second half begins today.
What are the projections


It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue.

The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that.

If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000

Bringing manufacturing back to the USA (from China) is not going to be easy nor will it be immediate. I have to say Trump is doing what many US presidents were afraid of doing. Perhaps the "mad antics" of Trump will only be appreciated after many years.

In Kenya, we need a Trump-like approach to many aspects e.g. manufacturing. I look at our supermarket shelves and feel like crying.

We need to reduce the amount/value of imports that we can manufacture cost effectively... We need to reduce the level of corruption and costs it takes to bring goods to market.

We need to train more Kenyans to do jobs that have been outsourced including maintaining the railway and roads let alone building infrastructure.

We need to find more ways to trade with our neighbors. Not an easy task but we need to collaborate with the Ugandans, Rwandans and even Tanzanians to "Make It In East Africa"...

China is not our friend. SA is xenophobic and only wants to export to us. Even the Middle East is exporting non-oil goods to us while hardly taking in our exports except vegetables/fruits. India looks out for itself. USA has MAGA. EU only wants our natural resources and what it cannot grow.

I am not saying we should close off our economy but we need to make it more profitable to be a manufacturer so more Kenyans invest in factories.


You need to take a stand man. You vigorously opposed my idea to protect Kenyan skies for KQ.

My bad! When did KQ get into manufacturing anything but losses?


Obiero you aren't alone on vvs issues.We are many.

@vvs was battered and bruised senselessly by KQ. He has nightmares about it ever since and brings it up at all kinds of discussions.. Which I fully understand. Buying extra high and selling extra low can make anyone go insane and/or bitter at the world in general

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Now I get the true meaning of the thread "Madness at the NSE"
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
VituVingiSana
#1233 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 10:51:29 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,342
Location: Nairobi
Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Second half begins today.
What are the projections


It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue.

The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that.

If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000

Bringing manufacturing back to the USA (from China) is not going to be easy nor will it be immediate. I have to say Trump is doing what many US presidents were afraid of doing. Perhaps the "mad antics" of Trump will only be appreciated after many years.

In Kenya, we need a Trump-like approach to many aspects e.g. manufacturing. I look at our supermarket shelves and feel like crying.

We need to reduce the amount/value of imports that we can manufacture cost effectively... We need to reduce the level of corruption and costs it takes to bring goods to market.

We need to train more Kenyans to do jobs that have been outsourced including maintaining the railway and roads let alone building infrastructure.

We need to find more ways to trade with our neighbors. Not an easy task but we need to collaborate with the Ugandans, Rwandans and even Tanzanians to "Make It In East Africa"...

China is not our friend. SA is xenophobic and only wants to export to us. Even the Middle East is exporting non-oil goods to us while hardly taking in our exports except vegetables/fruits. India looks out for itself. USA has MAGA. EU only wants our natural resources and what it cannot grow.

I am not saying we should close off our economy but we need to make it more profitable to be a manufacturer so more Kenyans invest in factories.


You need to take a stand man. You vigorously opposed my idea to protect Kenyan skies for KQ.

My bad! When did KQ get into manufacturing anything but losses?


Obiero you aren't alone on vvs issues.We are many.

@vvs was battered and bruised senselessly by KQ. He has nightmares about it ever since and brings it up at all kinds of discussions.. Which I fully understand. Buying extra high and selling extra low can make anyone go insane and/or bitter at the world in general

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Now I get the true meaning of the thread "Madness at the NSE"
What's amusing is this from the chap still waiting for the "Open Offer" that was supposed to miraculously make his losses disappear. Laughing out loudly d'oh! Pray
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#1234 Posted : Wednesday, July 04, 2018 8:13:31 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
Asia stocks at 9-month lows.
The bear is everywhere
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
murchr
#1235 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2018 8:45:19 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Ericsson wrote:
Asia stocks at 9-month lows.
The bear is everywhere


Trade wars with China go live midnight 6th July. Canadian went live on 1st. Its going to be messy
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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lochaz-index
#1236 Posted : Friday, July 06, 2018 11:35:57 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 9/18/2014
Posts: 1,127
Ericsson wrote:
Asia stocks at 9-month lows.
The bear is everywhere

Not everywhere. Mostly EM and FM plus bonds. AMs (stocks) still holding tight.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
obiero
#1237 Posted : Friday, July 06, 2018 11:55:29 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Second half begins today.
What are the projections


It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue.

The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that.

If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000

Bringing manufacturing back to the USA (from China) is not going to be easy nor will it be immediate. I have to say Trump is doing what many US presidents were afraid of doing. Perhaps the "mad antics" of Trump will only be appreciated after many years.

In Kenya, we need a Trump-like approach to many aspects e.g. manufacturing. I look at our supermarket shelves and feel like crying.

We need to reduce the amount/value of imports that we can manufacture cost effectively... We need to reduce the level of corruption and costs it takes to bring goods to market.

We need to train more Kenyans to do jobs that have been outsourced including maintaining the railway and roads let alone building infrastructure.

We need to find more ways to trade with our neighbors. Not an easy task but we need to collaborate with the Ugandans, Rwandans and even Tanzanians to "Make It In East Africa"...

China is not our friend. SA is xenophobic and only wants to export to us. Even the Middle East is exporting non-oil goods to us while hardly taking in our exports except vegetables/fruits. India looks out for itself. USA has MAGA. EU only wants our natural resources and what it cannot grow.

I am not saying we should close off our economy but we need to make it more profitable to be a manufacturer so more Kenyans invest in factories.


You need to take a stand man. You vigorously opposed my idea to protect Kenyan skies for KQ.

My bad! When did KQ get into manufacturing anything but losses?


Obiero you aren't alone on vvs issues.We are many.

@vvs was battered and bruised senselessly by KQ. He has nightmares about it ever since and brings it up at all kinds of discussions.. Which I fully understand. Buying extra high and selling extra low can make anyone go insane and/or bitter at the world in general

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Now I get the true meaning of the thread "Madness at the NSE"
What's amusing is this from the chap still waiting for the "Open Offer" that was supposed to miraculously make his losses disappear. Laughing out loudly d'oh! Pray

Hehe..

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#1238 Posted : Friday, July 06, 2018 12:56:29 PM
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Posts: 18,342
Location: Nairobi
@Obiero - Leo, nimenunua "penny stock" ARM so let's support each other!
Watu wa ARM to fly KQ and watu waibe pale KQ lakini watumie simiti ya ARM
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#1239 Posted : Friday, July 06, 2018 2:03:45 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
@Obiero - Leo, nimenunua "penny stock" ARM so let's support each other!
Watu wa ARM to fly KQ and watu waibe pale KQ lakini watumie simiti ya ARM
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Shameless old man. You are advocating for theft!? By the way, KQ made it out of the penny stock league

KQ ABP 4.26
Metch
#1240 Posted : Friday, July 06, 2018 2:23:29 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 12/22/2015
Posts: 224
Location: Mombasa, Kenya
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@Obiero - Leo, nimenunua "penny stock" ARM so let's support each other!
Watu wa ARM to fly KQ and watu waibe pale KQ lakini watumie simiti ya ARM
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Shameless old man. You are advocating for theft!? By the way, KQ made it out of the penny stock league


Penny stocks leading the charge today.. Sammer, FTGH, ARM, CABL, even Uchumi!

Are you saying KQ is not a penny stock? we have not forgotten how you got to double digits...
Start!
VituVingiSana
#1241 Posted : Friday, July 06, 2018 2:24:02 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,342
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@Obiero - Leo, nimenunua "penny stock" ARM so let's support each other!
Watu wa ARM to fly KQ and watu waibe pale KQ lakini watumie simiti ya ARM
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Shameless old man. You are advocating for theft!? By the way, KQ made it out of the penny stock league
Lakini, that's the one constant about KQ.

On a serious note, now that I am an investor in ARM, I hope KQ/KAA gives priority to ARM Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly for its cement requirements!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#1242 Posted : Friday, July 06, 2018 3:15:43 PM
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Posts: 18,342
Location: Nairobi
It's raining green for some of these folks!
https://www.businessdail...49206-iw9x69/index.html
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#1243 Posted : Friday, July 06, 2018 11:08:12 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
It's raining green for some of these folks!
https://www.businessdail...49206-iw9x69/index.html

Lots of green

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#1244 Posted : Saturday, July 07, 2018 4:20:50 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,342
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
It's raining green for some of these folks!
https://www.businessdail...49206-iw9x69/index.html

Lots of green
MJ is doing quite well. His FY 2018 packet could be 20mn!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Chaka
#1245 Posted : Saturday, July 07, 2018 5:01:28 PM
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Joined: 2/16/2007
Posts: 2,114
VituVingiSana wrote:

Lots of green
MJ is doing quite well. His FY 2018 packet could be 20mn!
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Does the mzee need all this $$$ at his age?
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