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Madness at the NSE
wukan
#1216 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 12:44:51 PM
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Joined: 11/13/2015
Posts: 1,652
Ericsson wrote:
Second half begins today.
What are the projections


It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue.

The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that.

If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000
VituVingiSana
#1217 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 1:07:23 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,342
Location: Nairobi
wukan wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Second half begins today.
What are the projections


It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue.

The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that.

If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000

Bringing manufacturing back to the USA (from China) is not going to be easy nor will it be immediate. I have to say Trump is doing what many US presidents were afraid of doing. Perhaps the "mad antics" of Trump will only be appreciated after many years.

In Kenya, we need a Trump-like approach to many aspects e.g. manufacturing. I look at our supermarket shelves and feel like crying.

We need to reduce the amount/value of imports that we can manufacture cost effectively... We need to reduce the level of corruption and costs it takes to bring goods to market.

We need to train more Kenyans to do jobs that have been outsourced including maintaining the railway and roads let alone building infrastructure.

We need to find more ways to trade with our neighbors. Not an easy task but we need to collaborate with the Ugandans, Rwandans and even Tanzanians to "Make It In East Africa"...

China is not our friend. SA is xenophobic and only wants to export to us. Even the Middle East is exporting non-oil goods to us while hardly taking in our exports except vegetables/fruits. India looks out for itself. USA has MAGA. EU only wants our natural resources and what it cannot grow.

I am not saying we should close off our economy but we need to make it more profitable to be a manufacturer so more Kenyans invest in factories.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#1218 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 1:08:04 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
wukan wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Second half begins today.
What are the projections


It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue.

The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that.

If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000


Dollar weakness not easy as long as FED keeps raising interest rates
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#1219 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 1:13:24 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Second half begins today.
What are the projections


It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue.

The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that.

If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000

Bringing manufacturing back to the USA (from China) is not going to be easy nor will it be immediate. I have to say Trump is doing what many US presidents were afraid of doing. Perhaps the "mad antics" of Trump will only be appreciated after many years.

In Kenya, we need a Trump-like approach to many aspects e.g. manufacturing. I look at our supermarket shelves and feel like crying.

We need to reduce the amount/value of imports that we can manufacture cost effectively... We need to reduce the level of corruption and costs it takes to bring goods to market.

We need to train more Kenyans to do jobs that have been outsourced including maintaining the railway and roads let alone building infrastructure.

We need to find more ways to trade with our neighbors. Not an easy task but we need to collaborate with the Ugandans, Rwandans and even Tanzanians to "Make It In East Africa"...

China is not our friend. SA is xenophobic and only wants to export to us. Even the Middle East is exporting non-oil goods to us while hardly taking in our exports except vegetables/fruits. India looks out for itself. USA has MAGA. EU only wants our natural resources and what it cannot grow.

I am not saying we should close off our economy but we need to make it more profitable to be a manufacturer so more Kenyans invest in factories.


I mentioned this a while back and vvs was a fierce opposer.How times change
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
wukan
#1220 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 3:33:39 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 11/13/2015
Posts: 1,652
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Second half begins today.
What are the projections


It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue.

The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that.

If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000

Bringing manufacturing back to the USA (from China) is not going to be easy nor will it be immediate. I have to say Trump is doing what many US presidents were afraid of doing. Perhaps the "mad antics" of Trump will only be appreciated after many years.

In Kenya, we need a Trump-like approach to many aspects e.g. manufacturing. I look at our supermarket shelves and feel like crying.

We need to reduce the amount/value of imports that we can manufacture cost effectively... We need to reduce the level of corruption and costs it takes to bring goods to market.

We need to train more Kenyans to do jobs that have been outsourced including maintaining the railway and roads let alone building infrastructure.

We need to find more ways to trade with our neighbors. Not an easy task but we need to collaborate with the Ugandans, Rwandans and even Tanzanians to "Make It In East Africa"...

China is not our friend. SA is xenophobic and only wants to export to us. Even the Middle East is exporting non-oil goods to us while hardly taking in our exports except vegetables/fruits. India looks out for itself. USA has MAGA. EU only wants our natural resources and what it cannot grow.

I am not saying we should close off our economy but we need to make it more profitable to be a manufacturer so more Kenyans invest in factories.


I read how Reagan bankrupted the soviet union through the arms race, learnt to respect the US presidency-it's a powerful position. Trump is planning to blow up the WTO

As for Kenya manufacturing we have already missed this bus. Remember we were to be a newly industrialized country by 2020Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly . Ain't happening soon because we are yet to overcome our rural agrarian past. Our urbanization policies are horrendous-our urban centers are glorified villages. Unless you get the urbanization right(like the Asian economies) the economy will not support long-term manufacturing. Our economic set up right from colonial times leans more to consumption not production. We have a structural problem with our economy and our political leadership has refused to do the necessary structural adjustment. So forget manufacturing. It is easier to manufacture in other countries and use kenya as trading outlet.
VituVingiSana
#1221 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 3:38:32 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,342
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Second half begins today.
What are the projections


It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue.

The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that.

If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000

Bringing manufacturing back to the USA (from China) is not going to be easy nor will it be immediate. I have to say Trump is doing what many US presidents were afraid of doing. Perhaps the "mad antics" of Trump will only be appreciated after many years.

In Kenya, we need a Trump-like approach to many aspects e.g. manufacturing. I look at our supermarket shelves and feel like crying.

We need to reduce the amount/value of imports that we can manufacture cost effectively... We need to reduce the level of corruption and costs it takes to bring goods to market.

We need to train more Kenyans to do jobs that have been outsourced including maintaining the railway and roads let alone building infrastructure.

We need to find more ways to trade with our neighbors. Not an easy task but we need to collaborate with the Ugandans, Rwandans and even Tanzanians to "Make It In East Africa"...

China is not our friend. SA is xenophobic and only wants to export to us. Even the Middle East is exporting non-oil goods to us while hardly taking in our exports except vegetables/fruits. India looks out for itself. USA has MAGA. EU only wants our natural resources and what it cannot grow.

I am not saying we should close off our economy but we need to make it more profitable to be a manufacturer so more Kenyans invest in factories.


I mentioned this a while back and vvs was a fierce opposer.How times change

Nonsense. I never opposed local manufacturing. I oppose subsidies to some sectors/firms. GoK should create an enabling environment NOT provide subsidies and favor some over others. Equal treatment of all manufacturing sectors in terms of taxation.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#1222 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 3:50:09 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
The bear is on a run looking to devour somebody
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
muandiwambeu
#1223 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 9:26:58 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
Ericsson wrote:
The bear is on a run looking to devour somebody

This one has been quite and stealth, one and now Ericson do mention the bear is here with us squarely. Where is @munandii and those Fibonacci numbers. Sad Sad Sad concrete pouring coming to an end very fast. Nah, bumbala bumbala bububuLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
georgegop
#1224 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 7:38:51 AM
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Joined: 8/30/2010
Posts: 183
Location: Migingo
Kwani is this an endless bear?..
Don't Work for Money, Let Money Work for You..
sparkly
#1225 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 8:36:45 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Second half begins today.
What are the projections


It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue.

The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that.

If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000

Bringing manufacturing back to the USA (from China) is not going to be easy nor will it be immediate. I have to say Trump is doing what many US presidents were afraid of doing. Perhaps the "mad antics" of Trump will only be appreciated after many years.

In Kenya, we need a Trump-like approach to many aspects e.g. manufacturing. I look at our supermarket shelves and feel like crying.

We need to reduce the amount/value of imports that we can manufacture cost effectively... We need to reduce the level of corruption and costs it takes to bring goods to market.

We need to train more Kenyans to do jobs that have been outsourced including maintaining the railway and roads let alone building infrastructure.

We need to find more ways to trade with our neighbors. Not an easy task but we need to collaborate with the Ugandans, Rwandans and even Tanzanians to "Make It In East Africa"...

China is not our friend. SA is xenophobic and only wants to export to us. Even the Middle East is exporting non-oil goods to us while hardly taking in our exports except vegetables/fruits. India looks out for itself. USA has MAGA. EU only wants our natural resources and what it cannot grow.

I am not saying we should close off our economy but we need to make it more profitable to be a manufacturer so more Kenyans invest in factories.


You need to take a stand man. You vigorously opposed my idea to protect Kenyan skies for KQ.
Life is short. Live passionately.
VituVingiSana
#1226 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 9:33:06 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,342
Location: Nairobi
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Second half begins today.
What are the projections


It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue.

The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that.

If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000

Bringing manufacturing back to the USA (from China) is not going to be easy nor will it be immediate. I have to say Trump is doing what many US presidents were afraid of doing. Perhaps the "mad antics" of Trump will only be appreciated after many years.

In Kenya, we need a Trump-like approach to many aspects e.g. manufacturing. I look at our supermarket shelves and feel like crying.

We need to reduce the amount/value of imports that we can manufacture cost effectively... We need to reduce the level of corruption and costs it takes to bring goods to market.

We need to train more Kenyans to do jobs that have been outsourced including maintaining the railway and roads let alone building infrastructure.

We need to find more ways to trade with our neighbors. Not an easy task but we need to collaborate with the Ugandans, Rwandans and even Tanzanians to "Make It In East Africa"...

China is not our friend. SA is xenophobic and only wants to export to us. Even the Middle East is exporting non-oil goods to us while hardly taking in our exports except vegetables/fruits. India looks out for itself. USA has MAGA. EU only wants our natural resources and what it cannot grow.

I am not saying we should close off our economy but we need to make it more profitable to be a manufacturer so more Kenyans invest in factories.


You need to take a stand man. You vigorously opposed my idea to protect Kenyan skies for KQ.

My bad! When did KQ get into manufacturing anything but losses?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#1227 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 10:14:24 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Second half begins today.
What are the projections


It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue.

The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that.

If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000

Bringing manufacturing back to the USA (from China) is not going to be easy nor will it be immediate. I have to say Trump is doing what many US presidents were afraid of doing. Perhaps the "mad antics" of Trump will only be appreciated after many years.

In Kenya, we need a Trump-like approach to many aspects e.g. manufacturing. I look at our supermarket shelves and feel like crying.

We need to reduce the amount/value of imports that we can manufacture cost effectively... We need to reduce the level of corruption and costs it takes to bring goods to market.

We need to train more Kenyans to do jobs that have been outsourced including maintaining the railway and roads let alone building infrastructure.

We need to find more ways to trade with our neighbors. Not an easy task but we need to collaborate with the Ugandans, Rwandans and even Tanzanians to "Make It In East Africa"...

China is not our friend. SA is xenophobic and only wants to export to us. Even the Middle East is exporting non-oil goods to us while hardly taking in our exports except vegetables/fruits. India looks out for itself. USA has MAGA. EU only wants our natural resources and what it cannot grow.

I am not saying we should close off our economy but we need to make it more profitable to be a manufacturer so more Kenyans invest in factories.


You need to take a stand man. You vigorously opposed my idea to protect Kenyan skies for KQ.

My bad! When did KQ get into manufacturing anything but losses?


Obiero you aren't alone on vvs issues.We are many.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Superprime1
#1228 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 10:46:37 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/2/2018
Posts: 267
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Second half begins today.
What are the projections


It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue.

The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that.

If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000

Bringing manufacturing back to the USA (from China) is not going to be easy nor will it be immediate. I have to say Trump is doing what many US presidents were afraid of doing. Perhaps the "mad antics" of Trump will only be appreciated after many years.

In Kenya, we need a Trump-like approach to many aspects e.g. manufacturing. I look at our supermarket shelves and feel like crying.

We need to reduce the amount/value of imports that we can manufacture cost effectively... We need to reduce the level of corruption and costs it takes to bring goods to market.

We need to train more Kenyans to do jobs that have been outsourced including maintaining the railway and roads let alone building infrastructure.

We need to find more ways to trade with our neighbors. Not an easy task but we need to collaborate with the Ugandans, Rwandans and even Tanzanians to "Make It In East Africa"...

China is not our friend. SA is xenophobic and only wants to export to us. Even the Middle East is exporting non-oil goods to us while hardly taking in our exports except vegetables/fruits. India looks out for itself. USA has MAGA. EU only wants our natural resources and what it cannot grow.

I am not saying we should close off our economy but we need to make it more profitable to be a manufacturer so more Kenyans invest in factories.


You need to take a stand man. You vigorously opposed my idea to protect Kenyan skies for KQ.

My bad! When did KQ get into manufacturing anything but losses?


Wondering about the same: protecting Kenyan skies for KQ Vs encouraging manufacturing/value addition are totally different. In my layman's understanding, the impact of the latter would be immense for the economy (think jobs & disposable incomes, higher export income that would calibrate the country's Balance of Trade etc.). KQ just needs to be competitive and move away from Naikuni & co. 'strategies' that flew it into the red.
obiero
#1229 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 11:24:47 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Second half begins today.
What are the projections


It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue.

The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that.

If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000

Bringing manufacturing back to the USA (from China) is not going to be easy nor will it be immediate. I have to say Trump is doing what many US presidents were afraid of doing. Perhaps the "mad antics" of Trump will only be appreciated after many years.

In Kenya, we need a Trump-like approach to many aspects e.g. manufacturing. I look at our supermarket shelves and feel like crying.

We need to reduce the amount/value of imports that we can manufacture cost effectively... We need to reduce the level of corruption and costs it takes to bring goods to market.

We need to train more Kenyans to do jobs that have been outsourced including maintaining the railway and roads let alone building infrastructure.

We need to find more ways to trade with our neighbors. Not an easy task but we need to collaborate with the Ugandans, Rwandans and even Tanzanians to "Make It In East Africa"...

China is not our friend. SA is xenophobic and only wants to export to us. Even the Middle East is exporting non-oil goods to us while hardly taking in our exports except vegetables/fruits. India looks out for itself. USA has MAGA. EU only wants our natural resources and what it cannot grow.

I am not saying we should close off our economy but we need to make it more profitable to be a manufacturer so more Kenyans invest in factories.


You need to take a stand man. You vigorously opposed my idea to protect Kenyan skies for KQ.

My bad! When did KQ get into manufacturing anything but losses?


Obiero you aren't alone on vvs issues.We are many.

@vvs was battered and bruised senselessly by KQ. He has nightmares about it ever since and brings it up at all kinds of discussions.. Which I fully understand. Buying extra high and selling extra low can make anyone go insane and/or bitter at the world in general

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#1230 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 1:07:43 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,342
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Second half begins today.
What are the projections


It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue.

The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that.

If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000

Bringing manufacturing back to the USA (from China) is not going to be easy nor will it be immediate. I have to say Trump is doing what many US presidents were afraid of doing. Perhaps the "mad antics" of Trump will only be appreciated after many years.

In Kenya, we need a Trump-like approach to many aspects e.g. manufacturing. I look at our supermarket shelves and feel like crying.

We need to reduce the amount/value of imports that we can manufacture cost effectively... We need to reduce the level of corruption and costs it takes to bring goods to market.

We need to train more Kenyans to do jobs that have been outsourced including maintaining the railway and roads let alone building infrastructure.

We need to find more ways to trade with our neighbors. Not an easy task but we need to collaborate with the Ugandans, Rwandans and even Tanzanians to "Make It In East Africa"...

China is not our friend. SA is xenophobic and only wants to export to us. Even the Middle East is exporting non-oil goods to us while hardly taking in our exports except vegetables/fruits. India looks out for itself. USA has MAGA. EU only wants our natural resources and what it cannot grow.

I am not saying we should close off our economy but we need to make it more profitable to be a manufacturer so more Kenyans invest in factories.


You need to take a stand man. You vigorously opposed my idea to protect Kenyan skies for KQ.

My bad! When did KQ get into manufacturing anything but losses?


Obiero you aren't alone on vvs issues.We are many.

@vvs was battered and bruised senselessly by KQ. He has nightmares about it ever since and brings it up at all kinds of discussions.. Which I fully understand. Buying extra high and selling extra low can make anyone go insane and/or bitter at the world in general

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I am out of KQ except for my indirect holdings via taxpayer and KQLC. The crooks like Mbugua and Naikuni are running free which is very sad.

As for folks on my case, Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly like I give a rat's bum Applause Applause Applause
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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