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PKoli
#71 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 11:09:11 AM
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yekeyeke wrote:
Yes and not to mention the business of charging you for a plastic bag. Do they expect people to go with kiodos to the supermarket? These SA, EU and US seprmarkets have very poor service indeed.


Poor when it comes kazi ya mkono
kadonye
#72 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 11:49:37 AM
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Where does one get a detailed financial report for these Uchumi?

I'm thankful they're back but I'm worried they're operating like a sick man-with favours from the govt.I hear that their staff are on short term contracts.

What will happen when this sickman comes back to the real world under the scorching sun and the rain?

What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
yekeyeke
#73 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 11:57:11 AM
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kADONYE
Can you give us a list of these favours? We all know that they were bailed out by the govenment. So was RBS, AIG, BOA, etc etc etc etc etc.
If you want a list, check google for all TARP recepients.

Let me make it easier for you. See list below. And this is only in the US. You havent looked at the EU and Asia.

http://bailout.propublica.org/list/index
Spend.thrift
#74 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 12:25:51 PM
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@ JGuru. I talked of IKEA, one of the world's leading retail stores. I say Nakumatt compares because of many aspects such the "all under one roof concept", arrengement of products, consistent avalability of brands, store cleanliness, price displays, warranties and exchnages , and counter assistance, price display e.t.c. You also have to weigh your considerations against the practice in the service industry in the countries.

As for being charged for paper bags and having someone walk you to the parking with your cart, I wll tell you this. Unless you are pregnant and unaccompanied or convalescent, it is rude and irresponsible to have someone push your cart to the parking or have someone walk to the arking to collect abandoned carts.

@Polki. About paper bags, you are a typical Kenyan who expects to be given a new plastic paper bag evry time they shop. The supermarket doesn't mind because it is "cheap". In reality, a bigger proportion of that cost is externalised. Other people pay for it e.g, when donors fund the unclogging of the Nairobi River or the residents of Dandora who have to inhale dioxin-laden fumes from burning plastic wrapers.

It is civil and responsible to carry a carton or that kiondo to the supermarket, more so if you have a car. If I get the opportunity, I would introduce a plastic tax that would make each of those dirty plastics cost 200x more so that people like you can stop creating an unnecessary demand for those things.


VituVingiSana
#75 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 12:41:37 PM
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@mwafika31 - Now we are having a reasoned DISCUSSION...

Look... I buy Kenyan when I can but the shopkeepers/supermakets/kiosks sell what customers want...

I shake my head when my buddies buy 'Heineken' & 'Windhoek' coz of the prestige factor... Give me a nice cold bottle of Tusker Malt...

The same with CRISPS... I mean WTF??? Kwani, the imported, stale taste better? [Why not buy the fresh stuff 'Made in Kenya']

So it is consumers not the 'seller'... When I buy fruits, if my local Mama Mboga sells lousy stuff... I go elsewhere... She knows I want good stuff...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#76 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 12:43:59 PM
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jguru wrote:
Spend.thrift wrote:
@Mwafrika ...Having shopped at the IKEAs in Rome and two other European location, I would say Nakumatt is at par.


The European businesses fall flat on their faces when it comes to service. The service industry in Europe is right there at the bottom, next to agriculture. When you shop at COOP, REWE, Aldi, Lidl or REAL you quickly appreciate the Kenyan UCHUMI and Nakumatt where the attendants even roll your shopping, chatting with you, to your car. smile

Lakini Aldi & Lidl are far cheaper than Tesco & Sainsbury... Aldi/Lidl are minimalist shops... Also labor is cheap in Kenya vs UK/Germany...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
dr.ysj
#77 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 12:48:12 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:

VVS, haha. Once I read Mwafrika's comments, I knew your reply was set to be one of your masterpieces. By the way, is it true that Tanzanians study Chemistry in Kiswahili?

Yes, they used to some years ago but they use English these day!
VituVingiSana
#78 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 12:49:58 PM
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@spend.thrift is CORRECT...

We need to become 'green'... My mother used to go to the market with a kikapu (who remembers those brown/beige vikapu made from raffia). I used to follow her as we bought from the Mama Mbogas. At best, they used newspapers to wrap up stuff!

Nowadays, I see plastic bags littering everywhere! BTW, Rwanda does not allow any plastic bags & is CLEAN...

When I was a broke student, I shopped at ALDI & I used to carry/reuse my own bags. Why waste?

Juzi, I bought 3 items & I was given 2 plastic bags at Nakumatt! I returned one of them!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
PKoli
#79 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 1:46:48 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@spend.thrift is CORRECT...

We need to become 'green'... My mother used to go to the market with a kikapu (who remembers those brown/beige vikapu made from raffia). I used to follow her as we bought from the Mama Mbogas. At best, they used newspapers to wrap up stuff!

Nowadays, I see plastic bags littering everywhere! BTW, Rwanda does not allow any plastic bags & is CLEAN...

When I was a broke student, I shopped at ALDI & I used to carry/reuse my own bags. Why waste?

Juzi, I bought 3 items & I was given 2 plastic bags at Nakumatt! I returned one of them!


There has to be a policy shift in the manufacture of plastics, like in Rwanda. Else it is very difficulty to eradicate the polythene and go green. The way people throw these papers shamelessly on the roads.
Mwafrika31
#80 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 1:57:08 PM
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Spend.thrift wrote:
@Mwafrika I concur with you on your "public policy viewpoint". I have never understood why a Kenyan walks into a supermarket and throws a tray of "Proudly South African" eggs onto his/her trolley.

However, you can do only so much to protect inefficient industries. How can sugar made in Brazil and transported over the seas end up being cheaper "and cleaner" than the same made in Mumias just a 6hour truck journey away?

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This is called import dumping. The result of oversubsidized excess agricultural production to keep prices artificially high and force open new markets.
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