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Tara
#71 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2015 5:31:53 PM
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I have two questions...
1. Doesn't the ambulance call ahead to find a bed before they transport the patient to a hospital only to be turned away?
2. Don't hospitals have Emergency units that can stabilize a patient while an ICU bed is located?
kyt
#72 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2015 7:57:27 PM
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@tara, questions to ponder....
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alma1
#73 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2015 8:51:37 PM
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Tara wrote:
I have two questions...
1. Doesn't the ambulance call ahead to find a bed before they transport the patient to a hospital only to be turned away?
2. Don't hospitals have Emergency units that can stabilize a patient while an ICU bed is located?


such questions are not allowed on this forum

you should ask

1. why has uhuru failed
2. is raila the reason ambulances don't work

when you ask questions like yours, we know you are a fixer. too much thinking on our part will make us zoombies

Welcome Officially to wazua. Where we'd rather buy stocks than think of our stupidity.
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Bykhovets
#74 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2015 8:59:46 PM
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Tara wrote:
I have two questions...
1. Doesn't the ambulance call ahead to find a bed before they transport the patient to a hospital only to be turned away?
2. Don't hospitals have Emergency units that can stabilize a patient while an ICU bed is located?


1. Yes they do call. FYI only. KNH cannot decline a patient whose care can only be provided at KNH. All referrals are received at A&E (Casualty) and then admitted (if a bed is available). In the counties, they often do not call. You'll be woken up at 3am by a referral from Matuu District Hospital (often a pregnant mother from Ekalakala with a ruptured uterus).

2. A&E exists at KNH but cannot offer ICU level care. Usually for patients on short observations e.g. sugar management in known diabetics. In the counties, well equipped A&E do not exist at all.
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murchr
#75 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:36:12 PM
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alma1 wrote:
Tara wrote:
I have two questions...
1. Doesn't the ambulance call ahead to find a bed before they transport the patient to a hospital only to be turned away?
2. Don't hospitals have Emergency units that can stabilize a patient while an ICU bed is located?


such questions are not allowed on this forum

you should ask

1. why has uhuru failed
2. is raila the reason ambulances don't work

when you ask questions like yours, we know you are a fixer. too much thinking on our part will make us zoombies

Welcome Officially to wazua. Where we'd rather buy stocks than think of our stupidity.


ALA! Anxious
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Tara
#76 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 12:13:58 AM
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Bykhovets wrote:
Tara wrote:
I have two questions...
1. Doesn't the ambulance call ahead to find a bed before they transport the patient to a hospital only to be turned away?
2. Don't hospitals have Emergency units that can stabilize a patient while an ICU bed is located?


1. Yes they do call. FYI only. KNH cannot decline a patient whose care can only be provided at KNH. All referrals are received at A&E (Casualty) and then admitted (if a bed is available). In the counties, they often do not call. You'll be woken up at 3am by a referral from Matuu District Hospital (often a pregnant mother from Ekalakala with a ruptured uterus).

2. A&E exists at KNH but cannot offer ICU level care. Usually for patients on short observations e.g. sugar management in known diabetics. In the counties, well equipped A&E do not exist at all.


So KNH has a limited number of beds (did I see 21?) So if there was lets say a plane crash in Nairobi and 250 critically injured people needed to be admitted to ICU, where would they go?
murchr
#77 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 4:56:44 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Tara wrote:
Bykhovets wrote:
Tara wrote:
I have two questions...
1. Doesn't the ambulance call ahead to find a bed before they transport the patient to a hospital only to be turned away?
2. Don't hospitals have Emergency units that can stabilize a patient while an ICU bed is located?


1. Yes they do call. FYI only. KNH cannot decline a patient whose care can only be provided at KNH. All referrals are received at A&E (Casualty) and then admitted (if a bed is available). In the counties, they often do not call. You'll be woken up at 3am by a referral from Matuu District Hospital (often a pregnant mother from Ekalakala with a ruptured uterus).

2. A&E exists at KNH but cannot offer ICU level care. Usually for patients on short observations e.g. sugar management in known diabetics. In the counties, well equipped A&E do not exist at all.


So KNH has a limited number of beds (did I see 21?) So if there was lets say a plane crash in Nairobi and 250 critically injured people needed to be admitted to ICU, where would they go?


God forbid some Nrb Hosp, others Agakhan, Karen, etc...but the majority would D.I.E. Sad, but true....
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Euge
#78 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 9:10:00 AM
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Posts: 2,849
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Tara wrote:
Bykhovets wrote:
Tara wrote:
I have two questions...
1. Doesn't the ambulance call ahead to find a bed before they transport the patient to a hospital only to be turned away?
2. Don't hospitals have Emergency units that can stabilize a patient while an ICU bed is located?


1. Yes they do call. FYI only. KNH cannot decline a patient whose care can only be provided at KNH. All referrals are received at A&E (Casualty) and then admitted (if a bed is available). In the counties, they often do not call. You'll be woken up at 3am by a referral from Matuu District Hospital (often a pregnant mother from Ekalakala with a ruptured uterus).

2. A&E exists at KNH but cannot offer ICU level care. Usually for patients on short observations e.g. sugar management in known diabetics. In the counties, well equipped A&E do not exist at all.


So KNH has a limited number of beds (did I see 21?) So if there was lets say a plane crash in Nairobi and 250 critically injured people needed to be admitted to ICU, where would they go?


21 beds for the largest referral hospital in the region SMH
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maka
#79 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 9:56:07 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Euge wrote:
Tara wrote:
Bykhovets wrote:
Tara wrote:
I have two questions...
1. Doesn't the ambulance call ahead to find a bed before they transport the patient to a hospital only to be turned away?
2. Don't hospitals have Emergency units that can stabilize a patient while an ICU bed is located?


1. Yes they do call. FYI only. KNH cannot decline a patient whose care can only be provided at KNH. All referrals are received at A&E (Casualty) and then admitted (if a bed is available). In the counties, they often do not call. You'll be woken up at 3am by a referral from Matuu District Hospital (often a pregnant mother from Ekalakala with a ruptured uterus).

2. A&E exists at KNH but cannot offer ICU level care. Usually for patients on short observations e.g. sugar management in known diabetics. In the counties, well equipped A&E do not exist at all.


So KNH has a limited number of beds (did I see 21?) So if there was lets say a plane crash in Nairobi and 250 critically injured people needed to be admitted to ICU, where would they go?


21 beds for the largest referral hospital in the region SMH


Thats Kenya for you....
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PeterReborn
#80 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:58:19 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2014
Posts: 1,063
The main problem is not the tribalism or the corruption.It is the middle class who just sit and yap as the garment is raping them and not offering any tangible solutions to this country.
We have private cars for public transport problems,medical covers for the public hospital problems and private schools for the public education problems.We pay most of the taxes and sit here and do nothing.
We have very brilliant minds in this forum why not put those minds in use and involve ourselves in leadership.
There is a thread on Wazuans interested in politics but seems only Mawinder will be our next MP.
We need to walk the talk and be part of the solution.
Consistency is better than intensity
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