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The KenolKobil 2015 pendulum
VituVingiSana
#141 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2015 2:07:33 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Total--Shell-and-Kenol-cede-more-market-share/-/539550/2994852/-/ctbp73/-/index.html

Loss of market share,,vivo=1.9%,total=0.7%,kk=0.1% am i in order to say kk has done best on the top three???


What makes me happiest is the PAT with Kenol doing better than total,despite the higher market share.
KK of late is refurbishing stations which is good as it will increase sales. I've noted at least 3 with a new one among. Mpaka I fueled their in my delight.

Applause Applause Applause Keep on supporting our brand. Last year, I popped into a KK station and it was decrepit. I complained and received a reply. This year they have fixed potholes in the driveway and it looks better. I understand they plan to build some retail space on it too.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mulla
#142 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2015 10:28:58 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Total--Shell-and-Kenol-cede-more-market-share/-/539550/2994852/-/ctbp73/-/index.html

Loss of market share,,vivo=1.9%,total=0.7%,kk=0.1% am i in order to say kk has done best on the top three???


What makes me happiest is the PAT with Kenol doing better than total,despite the higher market share.
KK of late is refurbishing stations which is good as it will increase sales. I've noted at least 3 with a new one among. Mpaka I fueled their in my delight.

Applause Applause Applause Keep on supporting our brand. Last year, I popped into a KK station and it was decrepit. I complained and received a reply. This year they have fixed potholes in the driveway and it looks better. I understand they plan to build some retail space on it too.


@vvs...which KK....I am after retail space....
VituVingiSana
#143 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2015 11:34:19 PM
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@mulla - One near City Mall (Bamburi - Mombasa) next to Bob's Bar.
The other one in Mtwapa has been leased to Yana but I think I saw a building being renovated probably for a restaurant.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Magnate
#144 Posted : Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:35:24 AM
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kenol kobils turnaround success story incase you missed it.

http://www.howwemadeitin...el-company-around/52754/
No diagnosis,no pragnosis,no pragnosis no profit......Jesse livermore
mlennyma
#145 Posted : Thursday, December 17, 2015 11:15:10 AM
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[quote=Magnate]kenol kobils turnaround success story incase you missed it.

http://www.howwemadeitin...l-company-around/52754/[/quote]
I hope you won't be offered a job at KQ Mr ohana lets grow to the top
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Realtreaty
#146 Posted : Thursday, December 17, 2015 2:29:22 PM
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[quote=Magnate]kenol kobils turnaround success story incase you missed it.

http://www.howwemadeitin...l-company-around/52754/[/quote]
smile Growing =Profits.
We have moved out of shadows and we are growing. What about 2016? We are waiting.
Its better if results come by Febraury
Aguytrying
#147 Posted : Thursday, December 17, 2015 3:12:40 PM
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[quote=Magnate]kenol kobils turnaround success story incase you missed it.

http://www.howwemadeitin...l-company-around/52754/[/quote]

Articles like this with the price at 8.xy make me want to buy more. Good advice for KQ, Mumias, Uchumi.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
mlennyma
#148 Posted : Thursday, December 17, 2015 3:17:43 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
[quote=Magnate]kenol kobils turnaround success story incase you missed it.

http://www.howwemadeitin...l-company-around/52754/[/quote]

Articles like this with the price at 8.xy make me want to buy more. Good advice for KQ, Mumias, Uchumi.

although this share is trading at 8 i can't even sell mine at 20
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Elephant Man
#149 Posted : Thursday, December 17, 2015 3:54:37 PM
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Anyone with an idea of their exposure to Burundi (political turmoil)? And Zambia (currency turmoil)?
VituVingiSana
#150 Posted : Thursday, December 17, 2015 7:48:17 PM
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Elephant Man wrote:
Anyone with an idea of their exposure to Burundi (political turmoil)? And Zambia (currency turmoil)?

Burundi worries me more than Zambia. KK can manage turbulent currencies since fuel prices do eventually match the LCY/USD. There may be some write-offs or forex losses in Zambia but the stations would still be up & running.

Burundi is a different story as the assets can be destroyed, expropriated or idled by the current or new regime. Or by hooligans. Every tanker that goes to Burundi is at risk of being hijacked or destroyed. KK could reduce staff or fire staff but that's not a desirable option as it creates animosity. Plus KK probably needs to spend more cash for security.

KK needs to reduce its level of business activity in Burundi & try to remit as much cash as possible back to Kenya. Any purchases (for resale) should be done using USD bought from the banks and not on credit. KK's HQ should not support KK Burundi using its cash.

What's happening in Burundi will put both the country & KK at financial risk...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
littledove
#151 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2015 9:49:04 AM
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mlennyma,VituVingiSana it seems its our time to eat,9.55 printed with sizeable volume,2016 will be kk year
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
subaru
#152 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2015 9:57:51 AM
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littledove wrote:
mlennyma,VituVingiSana it seems its our time to eat,9.55 printed with sizeable volume,2016 will be kk year


thats a big fish bailing out
Pesa Nane
#153 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2015 10:09:33 AM
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littledove wrote:
mlennyma,VituVingiSana it seems its our time to eat,9.55 printed with sizeable volume,2016 will be kk year

Block trade of 2,464,300 shares at Ksh. 9 flat
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Spikes
#154 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2015 10:17:50 AM
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It is too early to celebrate! There is no profound support to propel this stock forward. Maybe mid 2016.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Aguytrying
#155 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2015 11:39:00 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
littledove wrote:
mlennyma,VituVingiSana it seems its our time to eat,9.55 printed with sizeable volume,2016 will be kk year

Block trade of 2,464,300 shares at Ksh. 9 flat


Kk. The gift that has started giving. Shares spike around this time due to few participants. However this is foretaste of what is to come.

Kk is that you up 9@% it is so long since I saw you like this.
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VituVingiSana
#156 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2015 11:48:38 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
littledove wrote:
mlennyma,VituVingiSana it seems its our time to eat,9.55 printed with sizeable volume,2016 will be kk year

Block trade of 2,464,300 shares at Ksh. 9 flat

myStocks has 9.55 for that block.

I doubt it will stay at 9.55 as other sellers come into the market but IMHO (& biased) opinion, it is worth a lot more than 9.55 as the good results for 2015 filter through.

The current Brent oil prices are trending down [sub-40] and now that the USA has allowed exports of oil products the WTI-Brent margin is now minimal. The lifting on the ban on exports should allow the US to be a more effective swing producer.

What does this mean for Kenya & KK?

Barring any crazy volatility due to war/attacks in the Middle East oil prices will remain low.

1) Reduction in financing costs. Same volume = lower amount of loans/financing
2) Volume growth. Lower fuel prices means more folks travel.
3) Better margins. 6/- on 80/- is better than 6/- on 120/-.

Better days [ceteris paribus] are coming.

*Real Estate types. What's the value of 1 acre in CBD along Haile Selassie/Uhuru Highway?*
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streetwise
#157 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2015 12:36:23 PM
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May be 2 B.
VituVingiSana
#158 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2015 2:08:37 PM
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Let's say 1 acre is 50% of what @streetwise says it is = 1bn for 1 acre at the corner of Haile Selassie and Uhuru Highway.

KK has 1.5bn shares so a 'revaluation' of that plot [as would happen when the zoning is changed or a new use e.g. office building comes up] adds KES 0.66 to the NAV.

I have seen multiple plots in Nairobi & Mombasa that KK owns and can be considered 'prime' locations. KK does not revalue properties on their books on a regular basis like C&G or Williamson but I believe there is value hidden in plain sight.

In other words, what's the break-up value of KK?

* http://www.businessdaily...4/-/9snfac/-/index.html *

JKUAT bought 163,788sf [gross lettable space] on 0.674 acres for KES 1.85bn. That's land with a large building. I wish I could get a better idea on the value of the Haile Selassie piece!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Spikes
#159 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 3:55:15 PM
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I told you this counter has no monumental support but you crusaders grinned broadly and scoffed me badly. Now you are languishing with whimsy in a major bloodletting battlefield where most of you are left wounded beyond wisely written opinions!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
obiero
#160 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 4:24:00 PM
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Spikes wrote:
I told you this counter has no monumental support but you crusaders grinned broadly and scoffed me badly. Now you are languishing with whimsy in a major bloodletting battlefield where most of you are left wounded beyond wisely written opinions!

Tell them brother

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