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heri
#141 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 2:44:42 PM
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derick wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
heri wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
As usual my buy orders will be at 8.00 not a penny more,

however a penny less is most welcomePray


to sell at 8 bob or less means someone got in at what price?


Do not assume they are selling at a profit, maybe they just got tired of waiting

Wanjiku is Wanjiku!!! At times she buys Safaricom at 5/=, sells it at 2.30/= and then buys it back at 16/=!!!

Laughing out loudly


Wanjiku cannot be having limitless shares going by the shares distribution .

what is the definition of a wanjiku shareholder? i thought someone with less that 10K shares

but according to the last financials, those who held under 10k shares each only held 17Million shares

so i think it is not just wanjiku selling


derick
#142 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 3:31:25 PM
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heri wrote:
derick wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
heri wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
As usual my buy orders will be at 8.00 not a penny more,

however a penny less is most welcomePray


to sell at 8 bob or less means someone got in at what price?


Do not assume they are selling at a profit, maybe they just got tired of waiting

Wanjiku is Wanjiku!!! At times she buys Safaricom at 5/=, sells it at 2.30/= and then buys it back at 16/=!!!

Laughing out loudly


Wanjiku cannot be having limitless shares going by the shares distribution .

what is the definition of a wanjiku shareholder? i thought someone with less that 10K shares

but according to the last financials, those who held under 10k shares each only held 17Million shares

so i think it is not just wanjiku selling



Its definitely not Wanjiku
Your income is directly related to your philosophy, Not the economy.-Jim Rohn
VituVingiSana
#143 Posted : Friday, April 10, 2015 9:43:51 AM
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Picked up some KK yesterday at 9. I should have waited it seems.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
heri
#144 Posted : Friday, April 10, 2015 9:57:29 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Picked up some KK yesterday at 9. I should have waited it seems.



same here, last week i bought at 9.50

But atleast i have now learnt to spread my buying so yesterday i also bought at 8.80

But i think anything below 9 is not a bad buy for this share
derick
#145 Posted : Friday, April 10, 2015 10:04:14 AM
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heri wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Picked up some KK yesterday at 9. I should have waited it seems.



same here, last week i bought at 9.50

But atleast i have now learnt to spread my buying so yesterday i also bought at 8.80

But i think anything below 9 is not a bad buy for this share

I see it going down to 8
Your income is directly related to your philosophy, Not the economy.-Jim Rohn
Aguytrying
#146 Posted : Friday, April 10, 2015 10:11:09 AM
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derick wrote:
heri wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Picked up some KK yesterday at 9. I should have waited it seems.



same here, last week i bought at 9.50

But atleast i have now learnt to spread my buying so yesterday i also bought at 8.80

But i think anything below 9 is not a bad buy for this share

I see it going down to 8

The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Boris Boyka
#147 Posted : Friday, April 10, 2015 12:48:20 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
derick wrote:
heri wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Picked up some KK yesterday at 9. I should have waited it seems.



same here, last week i bought at 9.50

But atleast i have now learnt to spread my buying so yesterday i also bought at 8.80

But i think anything below 9 is not a bad buy for this share

I see it going down to 8


You now know why i had to sell......2yrs as i said.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
heri
#148 Posted : Friday, April 10, 2015 12:55:09 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
derick wrote:
heri wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Picked up some KK yesterday at 9. I should have waited it seems.



same here, last week i bought at 9.50

But atleast i have now learnt to spread my buying so yesterday i also bought at 8.80

But i think anything below 9 is not a bad buy for this share

I see it going down to 8


You now know why i had to sell......2yrs as i said.


@Boris, what do you mean by 2 years? share for the benefit of those like me who are currently buying
derick
#149 Posted : Friday, April 10, 2015 3:20:45 PM
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heri wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
derick wrote:
heri wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Picked up some KK yesterday at 9. I should have waited it seems.



same here, last week i bought at 9.50

But atleast i have now learnt to spread my buying so yesterday i also bought at 8.80

But i think anything below 9 is not a bad buy for this share

I see it going down to 8


You now know why i had to sell......2yrs as i said.


@Boris, what do you mean by 2 years? share for the benefit of those like me who are currently buying


It will take along time for shareholders to maximize on gains . Otherwise not bad for short term investors and speculators.
Your income is directly related to your philosophy, Not the economy.-Jim Rohn
iris
#150 Posted : Friday, April 10, 2015 4:40:41 PM
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derick wrote:
heri wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
derick wrote:
heri wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Picked up some KK yesterday at 9. I should have waited it seems.



same here, last week i bought at 9.50

But atleast i have now learnt to spread my buying so yesterday i also bought at 8.80

But i think anything below 9 is not a bad buy for this share

I see it going down to 8


You now know why i had to sell......2yrs as i said.


@Boris, what do you mean by 2 years? share for the benefit of those like me who are currently buying


It will take along time for shareholders to maximize on gains . Otherwise not bad for short term investors and speculators.


What is the difference between short-term investor and speculator?
Boris Boyka
#151 Posted : Friday, April 10, 2015 10:02:52 PM
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derick wrote:
heri wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
derick wrote:
heri wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Picked up some KK yesterday at 9. I should have waited it seems.



same here, last week i bought at 9.50

But atleast i have now learnt to spread my buying so yesterday i also bought at 8.80

But i think anything below 9 is not a bad buy for this share

I see it going down to 8


You now know why i had to sell......2yrs as i said.


@Boris, what do you mean by 2 years? share for the benefit of those like me who are currently buying


It will take along time for shareholders to maximize on gains . Otherwise not bad for short term investors and speculators.

Yes. Note that am also a buyer 8.xy
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
ike
#152 Posted : Saturday, April 11, 2015 11:32:08 AM
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iris wrote:
derick wrote:
heri wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
derick wrote:
heri wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Picked up some KK yesterday at 9. I should have waited it seems.



same here, last week i bought at 9.50

But atleast i have now learnt to spread my buying so yesterday i also bought at 8.80

But i think anything below 9 is not a bad buy for this share

I see it going down to 8


You now know why i had to sell......2yrs as i said.


@Boris, what do you mean by 2 years? share for the benefit of those like me who are currently buying


It will take along time for shareholders to maximize on gains . Otherwise not bad for short term investors and speculators.


What is the difference between short-term investor and speculator?

Perspective... Short term(time). Speculator(gains)
,
VituVingiSana
#153 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2015 12:52:11 AM
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Location: Nairobi
@kausha

- 216mn Income from disposals of PPE (lower YOY but still very high)
- Substantial reduction in repairs and maintenance YOY from 217mn to 347mn (Many KK stations are often dirty, with old equipment, potholed driveways and crowded with parked matatus compared to competitors)
- (46mn) ESOP costs. What does this mean?
- (367mn vs 105n YOY) Forex Losses. And this will only get worse. UGX & KES has depreciated vs USD. Fixed margins do not allow mitigation. An expensive (or no) hedging policy doesn't help either.

And the constant selling leads me to believe it is biwott related entity which also makes me wonder...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Kausha
#154 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2015 7:11:57 PM
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@vvs not one knk entities selling. Local institution selling. Ignore tje razmattaz of the station. Compare an equete branch and standaed chartered branch.. who makes more money.
VituVingiSana
#155 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 3:49:31 AM
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Kausha wrote:
@vvs not one knk entities selling. Local institution selling. Ignore tje razmattaz of the station. Compare an equete branch and standaed chartered branch.. who makes more money.

I disagree on the stations. As a customer, at the same price, I want a NICE or CLEAN station where the pumps are not 20 years old. Where payments don't take ages (K-Card). If KK loses customers to others, they may not return.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
littledove
#156 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 8:23:34 AM
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Kausha wrote:
@vvs not one knk entities selling. Local institution selling. Ignore tje razmattaz of the station. Compare an equete branch and standaed chartered branch.. who makes more money.

i also doubt biwott entity selling, if its one of his entities their must be something terrebly wrong with him! thats not how to sell shares of a company you have influence- selling for a whole year, and to make it worse at a price which have been their for years! if its him he need to learn something from kirubi's of nse. he just needed to bring in good news, headlines everywhere, that will call demand from all corners sell what he is selling within a very short time and at a higher price and leave us with peace not waking up every day to see supply all over the whole year.

who has the current top ten shareholders list if possible as at 31 march 2015?
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
mkeiy
#157 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 8:49:21 AM
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littledove wrote:
Kausha wrote:
@vvs not one knk entities selling. Local institution selling. Ignore tje razmattaz of the station. Compare an equete branch and standaed chartered branch.. who makes more money.

i also doubt biwott entity selling, if its one of his entities their must be something terrebly wrong with him! thats not how to sell shares of a company you have influence- selling for a whole year, and to make it worse at a price which have been their for years! if its him he need to learn something from kirubi's of nse. he just needed to bring in good news, headlines everywhere, that will call demand from all corners sell what he is selling within a very short time and at a higher price and leave us with peace not waking up every day to see supply all over the whole year.

who has the current top ten shareholders list if possible as at 31 march 2015?



Could be, old age is making him a tad ethical. The Dj ain't at all.

@littledove, How/Why do you advocate for such thuggery? You may have to consider changing your user name to littleowl. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
littledove
#158 Posted : Monday, April 13, 2015 9:27:57 AM
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mkeiy wrote:
littledove wrote:
Kausha wrote:
@vvs not one knk entities selling. Local institution selling. Ignore tje razmattaz of the station. Compare an equete branch and standaed chartered branch.. who makes more money.

i also doubt biwott entity selling, if its one of his entities their must be something terrebly wrong with him! thats not how to sell shares of a company you have influence- selling for a whole year, and to make it worse at a price which have been their for years! if its him he need to learn something from kirubi's of nse. he just needed to bring in good news, headlines everywhere, that will call demand from all corners sell what he is selling within a very short time and at a higher price and leave us with peace not waking up every day to see supply all over the whole year.

who has the current top ten shareholders list if possible as at 31 march 2015?



Could be, old age is making him a tad ethical. The Dj ain't at all.

@littledove, How/Why do you advocate for such thuggery? You may have to consider changing your user name to littleowl. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

@mkeiy Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly i dont advocate for such but fo kk it will be good for shareholders, because those investing shortterm will "escape" with selling entity and for long termers they will see their investment shares rise slowly and steadily because supply will not be very much
nb
i own kk shares (35% of my portfolio)i espected to sell 15% shorterm and keep 20% long term
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
derick
#159 Posted : Thursday, April 23, 2015 10:36:46 PM
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Is KenolKobil Stock a Buy? - http://investinginafrica...87-9c914a9bf3-100199505#
Your income is directly related to your philosophy, Not the economy.-Jim Rohn
S.Mutaga III
#160 Posted : Friday, April 24, 2015 12:59:27 AM
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[quote=derick]Is KenolKobil Stock a Buy? - http://investinginafrica...7-9c914a9bf3-100199505#[/quote]
Personally, I wouldnt buy KK...simply because of the valuation. Good company, wrong valuation.
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
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