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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:Muriel wrote:Tebes wrote:Muriel....tycho....Symbols....
They have collected their tycho back!!! With relish. Rehabilitation. No more bwaku gibberish, hopefully.  Why does this taste like an insult, or some kind of violation? Indeed it is. 'Rehabilitation', 'collection', 'relish'. All these have the marks of defining an other, and ensuring the other attains your 'standards'. Like 'civilization'. Now you mean sheng isn't 'good', and if one expresses himself in it, 'he has swung to the other end and due for collection? Only formal English is proper? Kweli ufarisayo ime wawai. lol. It is not. It has not aromat. What is 'civilisation'?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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'Civilization' is a social growth in knowledge and culture coming as a result of investigative activity for solving human existential 'challenges', indigenous expansion and refinement in language and logic, and the political use of this knowledge and language for ordering reality for as many humans as is possible.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Growth in knowledge implies interaction with 'new' ideas and assimilating it partly or wholly. Then ownership of the product and its appropriate use follows. I do not see anything to be abhorred about 'civilisation'. Its natural. African even.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:
Growth in knowledge implies interaction with 'new' ideas and assimilating it partly or wholly. Then ownership of the product and its appropriate use follows. I do not see anything to be abhorred about 'civilisation'. Its natural. African even.
True. And the language must be 'indigenous'. Like 'sheng' or 'Kiswahili'. And don't take it that one can't or shouldn't use non-indegnous language.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:
Growth in knowledge implies interaction with 'new' ideas and assimilating it partly or wholly. Then ownership of the product and its appropriate use follows. I do not see anything to be abhorred about 'civilisation'. Its natural. African even.
True. And the language must be 'indigenous'. Like 'sheng' or 'Kiswahili'. And don't take it that one can't or shouldn't use non-indegnous language. I now see and agree. I am sorry for trivilising language. If it is true, I have one 'new' idea. You know it. Why are you so averse to it?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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I can think of some reasons that could make one averse to a 'new idea'. A good reason for aversion could be the unfitness of an idea to a problem being solved, or interest. Another reason could be a failure in communication.
As for now, I can't find this new idea you're talking about. Could you care to show it?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Yes.
But being averse to a certain idea should not cloud one's mind to the overall objective benefits and niceties to be accrued from that idea. Miscommunication often leads to incorrect understanding of the idea, rendering (mis)implementation of the idea in (mis)solving a problem more problematic.
I had mentioned some 2 gentlemen a Mr. Prescott and a Mr. Hort but by no means the only ones. They introduced, in my opinion, a miscommunication, a failure in communication, that has made well meaning and respectable citizens reject and become averse to an otherwise excellent idea. The likes of H.M Stanley while in pursuit of providing 'solutions', excelled this miscommunication and aggravated the situation and provided no solution to speak of.
I am appealing for due diligence to avoid throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:Yes.
But being averse to a certain idea should not cloud one's mind to the overall objective benefits and niceties to be accrued from that idea. Miscommunication often leads to incorrect understanding of the idea, rendering (mis)implementation of the idea in (mis)solving a problem more problematic.
I had mentioned some 2 gentlemen a Mr. Prescott and a Mr. Hort but by no means the only ones. They introduced, in my opinion, a miscommunication, a failure in communication, that has made well meaning and respectable citizens reject and become averse to an otherwise excellent idea. The likes of H.M Stanley while in pursuit of providing 'solutions', excelled this miscommunication and aggravated the situation and provided no solution to speak of.
I am appealing for due diligence to avoid throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Sorry @Muriel, but the source of miscommunication is the lack of an all inclusive language. Not Westcott, not tycho, not Muriel, linguistic instances.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Tycho can hack his mind. All persons can hack their minds.
To know, is to hack the mind. And what say you on panpsychism?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Before you move on to panpsychism, I say this:
There was an idea. It needed to be expressed. In whichever language, even sheng. By a quirk of providence English became the all inclusive language. Proper execution of this task (communication of the idea) would lead to a given result. The opposite also. But thanks to a large degree to the two gentlemen, the idea was and is misexpressed. The result is what you, I, we see - 'tounges'. Miscommunication.
The idea is not wrong, bad, or inappropriate or impractical. We are only stuck with the miscommunication that incidentally is so entrenched it has no cure save due diligence. Many by ease of read are however ensnared. I plead for due diligence from them.
Now what is panpsychism? I am interested.
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