In response to Kaiganjo's



Yes I celebrate how Tanzanians live in harmony and how they vote on merit and not tribalism. Its good to see an African country where people do not judge each other based on ethnicity. You on the other hand seem to thrive on tribalism



This is just a useless sidewhow by Kaiganjo that does not address the pertinent issue which is as follows : When Kenyans were pushing for an East African federation, Tanzanians were against it. They did not want Kenyan politicians to go to Tanzania and start campaigning on tribal basis as they do in Kenya. Tanzanians do not want the tribal cancer spreading from Kenya to Tanzania.

Kaiganjo thinks that this is a KCPE composition where he has to try to impress by writing cliches and flowery prose. ---> All that gibberish does not make your case stronger.



You are in denial. There are so many places in Nairobi now where you dare not be found outside at night. It’s a far cry from 1990s for example.



You haven’t really made any point here. You made the statement that Tanzanians are foolish and now that it has been debunked you are engaging in useless metaphorical statements that have zero substance. Again all these useless metaphors do not make your case stronger.



Again, I am not speaking for the politicians of Tanzania. I am telling how their people feel. Kikwete may be loosing sleep over EAC but the average Tanzanian does not care



The fact of the matter is that Tanzania is growing at a much faster rate than Kenya. You can wax lyrical about what you do for the government but it does not change the fact that Tanzania is progressing faster than Kenya. It’s a fact that Kenya is being held back by tribalism and corruption. Once again you are in denial about Kenya's problems.


I am glad you now admit that Kenyans are also poor. You were initially bragging about how Tanzanians are poor as if the same does not apply to Kenya



PEV2007 was caused by tribalism but also by impunity. The idea that a group of people who did not win an election can brazenly cling to power even as the country burns is a classic case of corruption and impunity. The primary reason they wanted to cling to power is also so that they could continue with their corrupt ways. This is the Kenyan way  Impunity, Tribalism, corruption . The problem with Kenya is people like you who are in denial about this. The sooner Kenyans can admit we have problems, the sooner we we will start to progress.

May be this is what (s)he meant. Seems like human trafficking to me.

What a silly analogy. Is that the best you could come up with ? There is nothing wrong with applauding when another country does something better than Kenya. It is clownish to say that we cannot learn something from Tanzania. We have serious problems. Lets stop being in denial and making standard 1 type analogies to justify them.



What question was this ?
If you are referring to the question about me exporting culture to the USA, I did not bother answering it because it was a silly question. I have already explained to you the mechanism in which Kenyan politicians could potentially export tribalism to Tanzania, they way they did in Kenya.



Whereas the crime rate in New York City is plummeting , the crime rate in Nairobi is soaring. Perhaps you are stuck in the 1980s when New York was indeed a hell-hole. Crime in Dar is not soaring and the crime rates are far lower. You are simply in denial about this. Everyone else with half a brain can see this clearly.



You are the one who has been hurling all manner of unfounded insults at Tanzanians on this thread. Everyone can see it



Please learn to read and comprehend. No One is saying we should cry. I am saying that we could address our problems with regard to tribalism and corruption instead of constantly being denial. The fact that you think crime in Dar or New York is just as bad as Nairobi shows how far in denial you are.




You claimed that Tanzanians are poor as if Kenyans are not. That was not a statement from anyone else. It was you who made that statement. You cannot run away from your own posts



Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Let people who actually have something useful to contribute other than just denials and bogus comparisons of crime in Kenya to crime in Tanzania.

INTERESTING!

TZ govt wouldn't go to court for such. They were engaged in talks with Uganda on use of Dar alternative after the 2008 PEV in Kenya disrupted supplies to Uganda