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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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mwekez@ji wrote:youcan'tstopusnow wrote:mwekez@ji wrote:Talk of going under continues Is it really a doomsday scenario, as they would want us to believe? ... project mawingu could be crash landing!¿i You cant grow when you very own survival is threatened. That project died long ago, i kepp asking, what have they done with the rights issue money so far? With all these losses and financial problems i can guess The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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Then, if this company is doing this badly, is there something the financial institutions are seeing that we are not seeing because they are funding this organisation massively... they must have submitted some "convincing" reports or is there something we are missing or worse still, something the financial institutions are missing?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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Wendz wrote:Then, if this company is doing this badly, is there something the financial institutions are seeing that we are not seeing because they are funding this organisation massively... they must have submitted some "convincing" reports or is there something we are missing or worse still, something the financial institutions are missing? do u rem citi trust or was it ifc or both putting the post rights value at 18.00 and were underwriters or something. explain that. they may be looking to lure ppl in to get out or even some unimaginable scenario. does its make sense to u? yes . invest. if not walk away The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Talk of going under continues >>> KQ lawyer Walter Amoko has said if the retrenched-employees reinstatement order is not suspended, the company would go under due to the higher wage bill.
Are we being prepped for a collapse?! Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Wendz wrote:Then, if this company is doing this badly, is there something the financial institutions are seeing that we are not seeing because they are funding this organisation massively... they must have submitted some "convincing" reports or is there something we are missing or worse still, something the financial institutions are missing? I'm sure all these institutions see that sweet government guarantee even if kq collapses! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/3/2010 Posts: 79
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I just bought more KQ yesterday to average down..I must say 9.50 is a really good buy for me and for those die hard KQ investors. I'm looking forward to holding the counter until mid 2015 when the price will be trading in mid 30's-40. Don't ask me how I came up with those numbers. Good luck! Knowledge is contagious...Infect truth!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Afroblk wrote:I just bought more KQ yesterday to average down..I must say 9.50 is a really good buy for me and for those die hard KQ investors. I'm looking forward to holding the counter until mid 2015 when the price will be trading in mid 30's-40. Don't ask me how I came up with those numbers. Good luck!
good luck to you too. I am tempted to average down too but 40 bob in 2015 seems too optimistic
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,124 Location: Nairobi
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And some thought the guy who sued KQ to stop the Rights Issue was crazy. I was re-reading this post (link below) and in retrospect you can see the Rights Issue & Project Mawingu [as envisaged] was a disaster not seen by many. http://coldtusker.blogsp...q-rights-issue-2012.htmlGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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[quote=VituVingiSana]And some thought the guy who sued KQ to stop the Rights Issue was crazy. I was re-reading this post (link below) and in retrospect you can see the Rights Issue & Project Mawingu [as envisaged] was a disaster not seen by many. http://coldtusker.blogsp...-rights-issue-2012.html[/quote] its like watching a train wreck from outside. I for one never believed in mawingu and the rights and i still don't. save for the right cash i think this company would be belly up by now. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Aguytrying wrote:[quote=VituVingiSana]And some thought the guy who sued KQ to stop the Rights Issue was crazy. I was re-reading this post (link below) and in retrospect you can see the Rights Issue & Project Mawingu [as envisaged] was a disaster not seen by many. http://coldtusker.blogsp...-rights-issue-2012.html[/quote] its like watching a train wreck from outside. I for one never believed in mawingu and the rights and i still don't. save for the right cash i think this company would be belly up by now. Like shown below.   Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,124 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:Aguytrying wrote:[quote=VituVingiSana]And some thought the guy who sued KQ to stop the Rights Issue was crazy. I was re-reading this post (link below) and in retrospect you can see the Rights Issue & Project Mawingu [as envisaged] was a disaster not seen by many. http://coldtusker.blogsp...-rights-issue-2012.html[/quote] its like watching a train wreck from outside. I for one never believed in mawingu and the rights and i still don't. save for the right cash i think this company would be belly up by now. Like shown below.  The Rights cash saved KQ. I have to respect KK which did not need a Rights Issue bailout. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 5,121
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Kenya Airways Falls to 9-Year Low on Outlook: Nairobi Mover http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2...tlook-nairobi-mover.html
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 5,121
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@Rich has been very bullish about this counter for a long while now. I wonder at what price he got in and whether he will be lucky to make a gain from this anytime soon 
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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mwekez@ji wrote:@Rich has been very bullish about this counter for a long while now. I wonder at what price he got in and whether he will be lucky to make a gain from this anytime soon Wow! RSI oversold since 2012. When the rebound comes, it'll be vicious. 200% rebound is very likely on that occassion.$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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hisah wrote:mwekez@ji wrote:@Rich has been very bullish about this counter for a long while now. I wonder at what price he got in and whether he will be lucky to make a gain from this anytime soon Wow! RSI oversold since 2012. When the rebound comes, it'll be vicious. 200% rebound is very likely on that occassion. I have confidence in this counter i think the news November will sound good (increase in flights, hopefully the passenger numbers too) and if they locked in fuel price at 90s or below, Naikuni will have a good story. Is KQ referred to as a parastatal? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Is KQ referred to as a parastatal? @murchr in order for a company to be referred to as a parastatal GOK must own at least 50% + 1 shares! That's not the case in KQ! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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murchr wrote:hisah wrote:mwekez@ji wrote:@Rich has been very bullish about this counter for a long while now. I wonder at what price he got in and whether he will be lucky to make a gain from this anytime soon Wow! RSI oversold since 2012. When the rebound comes, it'll be vicious. 200% rebound is very likely on that occassion. I have confidence in this counter i think the news November will sound good (increase in flights, hopefully the passenger numbers too) and if they locked in fuel price at 90s or below, Naikuni will have a good story. Is KQ referred to as a parastatal? The counter will soon get to that inflection point where bad news is good news and good news is taken as very good news! This will be that rebound period. Just waiting for that volume story.$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,124 Location: Nairobi
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mwekez@ji wrote:@Rich has been very bullish about this counter for a long while now. I wonder at what price he got in and whether he will be lucky to make a gain from this anytime soon Does KQ place ads on his website? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,555 Location: nairobi
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hisah wrote:murchr wrote:hisah wrote:mwekez@ji wrote:@Rich has been very bullish about this counter for a long while now. I wonder at what price he got in and whether he will be lucky to make a gain from this anytime soon Wow! RSI oversold since 2012. When the rebound comes, it'll be vicious. 200% rebound is very likely on that occassion. I have confidence in this counter i think the news November will sound good (increase in flights, hopefully the passenger numbers too) and if they locked in fuel price at 90s or below, Naikuni will have a good story. Is KQ referred to as a parastatal? The counter will soon get to that inflection point where bad news is good news and good news is taken as very good news! This will be that rebound period. Just waiting for that volume story. KQ will make some people very rich. thank me later
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 5,121
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VituVingiSana wrote:mwekez@ji wrote:@Rich has been very bullish about this counter for a long while now. I wonder at what price he got in and whether he will be lucky to make a gain from this anytime soon Does KQ place ads on his website? That notwithstanding, he must have sunk lots of money here from many years back. I even remember him hyping the April 2012 rights issue @14bob
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