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StatMeister
#141 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 1:35:17 PM
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StatMeister wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
StatMeister wrote:
Its October. last year they released on 19th or thereabouts


19th of which month? Oct or Sept?

The heavy supply at 17.60 has finally disappeared, opening the way to 18 and above


19th October, 2011


up 2.5% on high volumes. Stock posting higher highs, 1st high at close of August, next high just under 20
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StatMeister
#142 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 1:38:20 PM
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http://allafrica.com/stories/201210050209.html
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#143 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 4:54:21 PM
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2.78 M shares traded 51.36 M turnover. 18.50 vwap.

I'm just wondering if this will pull an uchumi on us, notice 18.50 is the price they have met at (uchumi going down, KPLC making a new high). To make the similarity worse is KPLC pays a dividend almost equal to uchumi's (0.30).
Good news is, KPLC is undervalued and they may give another bonus, if last years annual report is anything to go by. Im fully enjoying the ride at the moment. I have realised this company has a large float, it moves(lumbers) like a giant. kinda like simba or safari.
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#144 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:18:42 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
I'm just wondering if this will pull an uchumi on us


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mlennyma
#145 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:55:20 PM
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Friday or never
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#146 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:12:24 PM
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Its good buy,why?new meters to cut staff costs,tarrif hike okeyed,concrete poles durable,monopoly etc
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Aguytrying
#147 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:53:29 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Its good buy,why?new meters to cut staff costs,tarrif hike okeyed,concrete poles durable,monopoly etc


the hike was rejected
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#148 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:34:50 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Its good buy,why?new meters to cut staff costs,tarrif hike okeyed,concrete poles durable,monopoly etc


the hike was rejected

@mlennyma, What tarrifs are u talking about?
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#149 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:51:10 AM
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jerry wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Its good buy,why?new meters to cut staff costs,tarrif hike okeyed,concrete poles durable,monopoly etc


the hike was rejected

@mlennyma, What tarrifs are u talking about?


you'll now be paying 6/= per kwh, up from 2/= (first so and so for DC)
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#150 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:52:31 AM
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http://www.businessdaily...60/-/16o52g/-/index.html
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#151 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 8:59:24 AM
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That tarriff hike was rejected.
The news you are posting is for May which is five months go.
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the deal
#152 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:06:39 AM
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Remember Kenya Power has to pay Kengen weather its not selling the power Kengen is producing!
mlennyma
#153 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:22:56 AM
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I know what iam saying power tarrifs are set to go up.
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the deal
#154 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:42:01 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
I know what iam saying power tarrifs are set to go up.

how? I doubt Kenya Power benefits from any adjustment in tariffs cos of forex & oil price adjustments...i thought they had a base tariff @ which they sell their units...the tariff adjustment due to forex & oil price was just mearnt to protect their margins insert Kengen...anyways when prices go up, dont people consume less?
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#155 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:47:37 AM
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the deal wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
I know what iam saying power tarrifs are set to go up.

how? I doubt Kenya Power benefits from any adjustment in tariffs cos of forex & oil price adjustments...i thought they had a base tariff @ which they sell their units...the tariff adjustment due to forex & oil price was just mearnt to protect their margins insert Kengen...anyways when prices go up, dont people consume less?
KPLC does not benefit from forex or fuel adjustments since these are pass-through costs.
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Aguytrying
#156 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:26:11 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Kenya+Power+gets+the+greenlight+for+tariff+review/-/539550/1398260/-/16o52g/-/index.html


http://www.businessdaily...0/-/q5rutw/-/index.html

Actually the tariff review was suspended indefinitely, pending a review by ERC in six months from july 2012.

I noted this recurring statement.... How did they arrive at this year's revenue from the unreleased results:

"The Treasury expects Kenya Power to grow its revenues to Sh113.7 billion in the year to June 2013 from this year’s Sh86.6 billion, reflecting an increase of 31 per cent."
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#157 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:00:07 PM
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the deal wrote:
Remember Kenya Power has to pay Kengen weather its not selling the power Kengen is producing!


whether
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#158 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:59:31 PM
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the deal wrote:
Remember Kenya Power has to pay Kengen weather its not selling the power Kengen is producing!


Are you suggesting KPLC "stocks" power?
The only scenario where KPLC doesn't sell power it receives from KenGen is when it is stolen [very rampant in the slums] or due to "distribution losses"
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the deal
#159 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 6:38:25 PM
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GGK wrote:
the deal wrote:
Remember Kenya Power has to pay Kengen weather its not selling the power Kengen is producing!


Are you suggesting KPLC "stocks" power?
The only scenario where KPLC doesn't sell power it receives from KenGen is when it is stolen [very rampant in the slums] or due to "distribution losses"

How is this possible if the demand for power currently exceeds supply? In fact there was load shedding last year but there are times when KPLC can have excess power i.e when there is low demand i.e economy not doing well hence businesses and individuals are not consuming power as they are suppose to...in that scenario...KPLC has to pay Kengen even if they're not selling the excess power!

jerry
#160 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:17:40 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
I know what iam saying power tarrifs are set to go up.

Are you an "insider" and even if so the tarrifs have to be passed by Parliament.
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