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Banque de Kigali
Cde Monomotapa
#141 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 1:37:35 PM
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They should have appointed KCB the Reciving Bank to make life easy. Oh well...that's room for growth.
FUNKY
#142 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:06:21 PM
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CFC received the application forms today and even they are taking minimum application of 100 shares and thereafter in multiples of 100.
And you can use either your ID or PASSPORT for individuals.
mwekez@ji
#143 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:35:16 PM
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FUNKY wrote:
CFC received the application forms today and even they are taking minimum application of 100 shares and thereafter in multiples of 100.
And you can use either your ID or PASSPORT for individuals.

what exchange rate are they using?
FUNKY
#144 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:59:47 AM
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@ mwekez@ji - CFC have priced the share @ 19/-
ecstacy
#145 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:12:59 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
(1). African Alliance minimum application is for 30,000 shares at RF 125 a piece. This amounts to RF 3,750,000. With a conversion rate of 1KES - RF of 6.77 to 7 this effectively requires around KES 536,000/=. Add an additional fee of USD 23 @ 1USD - KES conversion of 90/=, this additional fee is like KES 2,070/=.

Minimum SUM Application fee = 536,000 + 2,070 = 538,070/=

This amount is payable to the following account:

African Alliance Rwanda
Bank of Kigali
IPO account Number: 040-0350607-80 RWF
SWIFT: BKIGRWRW

Queue and pay using Kenya Commercial Bank.

(2) The application forms have arrived. Carry along 2 Passport size photos, copies of your Passport and Original Passport for verification.

(3) The stop receiving application forms a week before the offer closes.

You are sorted now.

What is the case for the above for Dyer & Blair and CFC or Faida?


COMPARATIVE
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CFC STANBIC FINANCIAL SERVICES

1. CFC Stanbic minimum application is for 100 shares at RF 125 a piece with additional shares in blocks of 100.
No additional processing fee.

This amount is payable to the following account:

CFCStanbic Financial Services
A/C No - 58904
Chiromo Branch
[Quote your NSE CDS A/C No]

(2) The application forms have arrived. Carry along (2) or email Passport size photo, copies of your Passport/ID and Original Passport for verification.

(3) If you are a new CFC Client, you need to open a CDS A/C with CFC. Following are requirements:
- 2 PP Photos. If you have a softcopy email to csfs@stanbic.com
- ID/PP, recommend ID. 1 copy
- Utility Bill(Power/ Water) and/or draw residential route map.
- Bank A/C statement or Payslip as proof of income. Not more than 6 months. Anything current should suffice.
- Copies and originals for verification, have a/c statements stamped by bank.

(4) Open a Rwandese CSD Account by filling the CDS 1 Form available at CFC. Passport copies and Photos required.

They are physically located at Kenyatta Avenue, CFC Stanbic Bank Building, 1st Floor, phone +254 20 3638900 or email csfs@stanbic.com. They are also open Saturdays 9AM - 12 Noon.

For Kigali Bank, CFC seem a lot simpler to deal with than African Alliance.
FUNKY
#146 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:21:47 PM
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@ ecstacy - for African Allicance they are charging an exchange rate of 6.77 RWF which translates to 18.50/-KES so they are cheaper for those who will be applying for many shares as the one of fee of 23USD will not affect them.

For small investors go for CFC.
pleasecallme
#147 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2011 2:35:51 PM
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bought mine at faida securities @19 bob. minimum 100, requires copy of passport,copy of PIN and damn 5 passport photos!

You kill bird...bird dead snake come.
mwekez@ji
#148 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:08:03 PM
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FUNKY wrote:
@ mwekez@ji - CFC have priced the share @ 19/-


Muchas gracias
ecstacy
#149 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 2:42:19 PM
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Hows the going with this in terms of interest regionally and in Kigali? About to make my application.
FUNKY
#150 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:05:47 AM
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@ ecstacy - I am just from CFC...they said they have not received many applications for Banque de Kigali and the maximum aaplication so far received is of only a paltry 25,000 shares.
kiterunner
#151 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:27:19 AM
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i ll get mine through NIC by end of the week, first time am trying something outside, hope exchange rate wont mess everything
our goals are best achieved indirectly
eco
#152 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:57:00 PM
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I purchased through Faida Securities Rwanda. In the long term, this is going to give good returns, just like the Stanbic UG did in 2007. Still growing post 1:1 bonus. Go ahead and buy.
mwanahisa
#153 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:06:59 PM
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This is certainly a BUY. The only caveat is that the shares are way too few. So one will have to be prepared for refunds.

That's where the exchange rate will bite. The spreads on EAC currencies are way too punitive. Can't wait for the day when the EAC will have one common currency. I am sure the banks do not look forward to this!
ecstacy
#154 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:44:57 PM
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Dyer & Blair only accepting applications worth KES 1 Million and AA applications worth KES 500K+ minimum. AA definitely expecting an over subscription.
Barrywhite
#155 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:57:59 PM
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Yeah, refunds will definitely be massive. The alternative would be to keep the refunds with your broker and invest in the same market at an appropriate time. Otherwise you need to have a good venture on which to spend the refunds to cover the losses incurred in exchange rate both ways - and that can be an uphill task.
The laudable is more often than not rendered laughable by overclaim
FUNKY
#156 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:05:32 PM
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@Barrywhite - i agree with you,the best option would be to keep the refunds with the broker and give him instructions to buy more shares of BK from the market.
the deal
#157 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:18:10 PM
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Bank of Kigali does not impress me
FUNKY
#158 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:29:15 PM
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Does any one have information about whether the Rwandans are showing interest in buying this stock or not? Since President Kagame bought the shares what reaction has come out from the Rwandans?
ecstacy
#159 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:54:43 PM
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A week after the IPO opened on June 30th, the bank's MD James Gatera said the international pool was oversubscribed 3.5 times...40% of the offer already taken. 'We' are all scrambling for the remaining 60% with the lead brokerage firms intent on almost only serving high net worth individuals...between Kenyans and foreigners, this offer should be well and truly taken up...
Aguytrying
#160 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 7:26:08 PM
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the deal wrote:
Bank of Kigali does not impress me

me too, though the name has a ring to it.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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