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#141 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2011 5:55:31 PM
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Impunity wrote:
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Do we expect some bonus from our sweet KK?
Rumors has it.


Honestly no. I don't expect a bonus share and at the current price I wonder if it would be a good idea to issue one. You meant of a bonus share right?

BBI will solve it
:)
Impunity
#142 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2011 6:34:25 PM
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2012 wrote:
Impunity wrote:
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Do we expect some bonus from our sweet KK?
Rumors has it.


Honestly no. I don't expect a bonus share and at the current price I wonder if it would be a good idea to issue one. You meant of a bonus share right?


Yes, a bonus share.
So with a probable dividend of note more than 50 cents, what else is exciting to hold on to this share?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

the deal
#143 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2011 6:57:55 PM
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@impunity if u are holding KK for bonus shares then you better sell now, i expect a dividend of between 0.25-0.40.
Cde Monomotapa
#144 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 5:18:11 AM
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KK is already a fairly liquid stock. Anyone betting on a bonus has odds against them.
VituVingiSana
#145 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 6:09:31 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
the deal wrote:
if @QW is not shoutin BUY BUY BUY u should know its the time to buy stocks.

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#146 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 6:14:00 AM
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Bonus? Unlikely but KK has shown NOCK dust!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Gordon Gekko
#147 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 7:02:34 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Bonus? Unlikely but KK has shown NOCK dust!


I beg to differ for 2 reasons:

1. They need to conserve cash for the expansion currently underway
2. Their paid up capital is 73M against shareholder funds of 11.4B.
VituVingiSana
#148 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 7:05:54 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Bonus? Unlikely but KK has shown NOCK dust!


I beg to differ for 2 reasons:

1. They need to conserve cash for the expansion currently underway
2. Their paid up capital is 73M against shareholder funds of 11.4B.
How does a bonus have anything to do with (1)? They may give a dividend but no need for a bonus... Anyway, a bonus is merely dividing the cake in smaller pieces!
On (2) So what? KK will not give a huge bonus! BTW, the paid-up capital is an irrelevant figure in this day & age! Many countries have done away with it for all practical purposes... What is important is 'Shareholder Funds'...
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jerry
#149 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 8:23:18 AM
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@vvs. As I concur with @GG, isn't it cheaper to give a bonus and keep the cash for re-investment? @the deal. I'm expecting 0.35 to 0.43 else I throw stones!
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#150 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 12:30:39 PM
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Currently, the bear hasnt mauled these counters much to my dismay;

1. KPLC- still trading at Ksh 21

2. KCB - same as KPLC was hoping for Ksh 20

3. C& G- its spike has lulled me abit.

As for my much sought after 'Crown Jewels' Jubilee and the sister DTB are getting a steady beating.

I should pick them up in due course as the blood letting picks.
Impunity
#151 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 1:52:17 PM
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I'm yet to understand why Jubilee is often referred to as "jewel or gold" in wazua.
What dont I know?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

VituVingiSana
#152 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 2:08:48 PM
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@GG @jerry KK could always 'give' a bonus vs paying a dividend but unlikely... [I may be wrong!]

I think KK will give a small dividend to save cash for the fuel wars coming up as well as expansion [see all the M&A they have been doing in Uganda, Zambia, etc]
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2012
#153 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 2:16:57 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Yes, a bonus share.
So with a probable dividend of note more than 50 cents, what else is exciting to hold on to this share?


The future. You'll always need oil at whatever price and their impressive aggressive expansion strategy will one day pay back handsomely.

BBI will solve it
:)
For Sport
#154 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 2:25:21 PM
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Impunity wrote:
I'm yet to understand why Jubilee is often referred to as "jewel or gold" in wazua.
What dont I know?


How to analyse fundamentals? smile
VituVingiSana
#155 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 3:26:43 PM
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KQ plans to fly to Abuja from 3-July-2011... The share seems so cheap to me... What I need is a loan at decent rates!
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Aguytrying
#156 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 3:28:54 PM
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It is time again to pick up cheap stocks and sell them at their previous lows. mumias- at 7.00 bob. A return to 7.80 would put some change in the pocket, or hold for future prospects. equity- is not getting to the sweet, sub 24.00 zone yet. Just too tempting it would be at that price. arm- has a high pe now, but its due to expected capiticy increase in the new plant. At 155, its a steal. And its also what growth stocks are made of. kq- i know its hitting new lows, but do you have the cohones? below 34.00, i cant believe what im seeing. co-op- i feel is valued correctly now, will still grow in future. kcb n dtk- are refusing to come down, i think due to attractive payouts they have pending. And many others, scan not also coming down.
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Aguytrying
#157 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 3:33:24 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ plans to fly to Abuja from 3-July-2011... The share seems so cheap to me... What I need is a loan at decent rates!

how low can it go? I know there's never clear answer on that, but what do you think. Financial yr is ending on 31st march, do u think results in june, will get this jumbo jet, back to mid forties at least?
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#158 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 3:37:12 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ plans to fly to Abuja from 3-July-2011... The share seems so cheap to me... What I need is a loan at decent rates!

how low can it go? I know there's never clear answer on that, but what do you think. Financial yr is ending on 31st march, do u think results in june, will get this jumbo jet, back to mid forties at least?
I am always cagey about discussing share prices [tho I do] but prefer discussing prospects for the firms...

I think KQ's PAT will be 2bn or so for FY 2010-11 [Note there was a huge paper 'loss' for cash flow hedges in 1H 2010-11 which will materialise in 2H 2010-11]
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the deal
#159 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 5:18:53 PM
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I dont believe KQ is cheap at the moment unless we see 4Q double digit PAX numbers minus the Local PAX numbers then maybe we can start thinking otherwise.
Gadaffi
#160 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 6:10:11 PM
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With the way the market indicators are looking, BUY is not a good option in the foreseeable future. u may think buyin KQ at 34 is a good bargain only to see the price tumble furthur. all indicators r predicting a gloom short term future for the NSE; if its nt the ICC n related politics, then its the forex mkt, add that 2 th Japan crisis, don 4get mpigs hv resumed n they are going 2 mk th situation worse than it is...its endless, the bear will continue to reign
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