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Read the writing on the wall: NSE iko na wenyewe
mozenrat
#71 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2008 2:01:00 PM
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I have never liked engaging in tribal tirades... but I'll be damned if anyone expects me to apologise for being born a kyuk. This is a curse that the Jews have lived with for a long time and they are still here... Anytime a qualified or unqualified kyuk is appointed to a position,do you expect me to bow my head in shame??? NO!

The PEV was enough proof that this was not about the elitist,General Kiguoya (AKA Obaks),but about genocide.

@TAZ,I think the obituary-counter was trying to illustrate that since relatively the 'nyomba' community is larger,then it is expected that you will find more of them in gava,private and dead positions.
mozenrat
#72 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2008 2:08:00 PM
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Incidentally,I visited Kericho the other day,and found that nearly the whole district is owned by about 3 white dudes - the large tea companies... Africans are mere sideshows... People there actually still refer to the area as the white highlands. I was in shock!! and yet they talk of madoadoa... Good Lord! to think we had the temerity to call South Africans Xenophobic... There is no difference between us!!
mautidavis
#73 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2008 2:42:00 PM
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I have gone through some of the responses in this forum and I'm convinced that neither of your arguments sinks!

Men (and ladies),this forum is for investments discussions - I know what some appointments mean to our investments. But the wise thing to do is cart your stuff away whenever you smell danger.

Whatever people say the truth will remain: that if you want to appoint only people from the SLDF region you can easily fill all government and parastatal jobs from people from Mt Egon. So the fair thing; distribute the jobs fairly (no pun intended).

Please dont count the death: the death never tell tales and let them lie in peace. Your day is coming and it is only fair that you dont also become a statistic.
WILBER
#74 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2008 2:44:00 PM
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SISI HABANA PENDA KIDU HII?INAPORE!MALIZA HII TOPIC NA MOSQUIDO DOSS!

WILBERFORCE AKELLO
Fundaah
#75 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2008 3:36:00 PM
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Price of unga may be 200/- by christmas,guys i'm worried. What can be done to bring it down?

Do not judge me by my name.Judge me by what I say and do.Is it right before the eyes of God and people?
Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
murenj
#76 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2008 4:51:00 PM
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@ Njung'e. Thanks for your comments. I have finally communicated my feelings across to you.That is exactly how I feel when a Njoroge starts bellitling other tribes. VERY VERY BAD. Never you forget that.

The cunning of the Buffalo
wote
#77 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2008 4:56:00 PM
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mozenrat@

i think you miss the point here,land issue is a different subject matter all together. Let me start with my father's own backyard. Try driving from Kiambu Town,keep going on the dusty road 'till you get to Njenga Karume's home look to your right and then left,make your return trip back via Gachie and tell me how many people own land in that part of Kenya.

Take another trip to Nakuru drive passed the silos keep going all the way to Salga and tell me how many Kenyans own land in that part of the Country,same as the Mzungus in Naivasha.

Lastly,i heard a joke the other that Taveta is owned by two people and the rest of the people are illegal on the land and guess who those two are?

I believe the land issue is a different ball game but important for the Government to address if we ever dream of achieving social harmony in our country.


wote
mozenrat
#78 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2008 6:58:00 PM
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@Wote... For once,I'm glad that I've missed the point so that I can be corrected from my erroneous ways back to the path of righteousness. Now that you have stated what we suspected all this time,that this was not about land (so-called historical injustices). Pray,do tell,what was it about?? What would drive a man to throw a child into a burning building... what would cause such a person to cut up a woman's womanhood in order to rape her 'properly'? Why would such a person choose an innocent who has nothing to do with the political power to be gained (or lost) as his victim?
Mantis
#79 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2008 8:00:00 PM
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I believe @MURENJ and NJUNG'E are almost through. This thread has seen each work the other up. If ethnic diversity was meant for the beauty of nature's creation,then kenya is most beautyful,not because of the number of ethnic groupings,but due to the level of distinctive aspect of ethnic identities,which we verily misuse. In short,kenyans HOPED that ouster of Moi would improve their lives,but instead nepotism got aggravated. Five painful yrs went by. Kenyans then voted out the leadership they had distasted but their HOPES got shattered when the same used a panya route to ensure continuity. Someone once said that without food you can go for 40days,without water you can go for 7days,without HOPE you hardly have 24hrs. That is exactly what happened after 2007 elections. Even now many are dead thou you see them walking. That was the cause of P.E.V. The accusations we make are secondary factors. Let us identify culprit no.1 b4 we move and start accusing suspect culprit no.2. What was the root cause. The MWEBESA/MWANGI we are talking about here is just a finger pointing into many other departments. People are discontended because their HOPES ARE SHATTERED.

One plus one does not always equal to two.
mwana
#80 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2008 9:33:00 PM
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I see this thread has generated some fire. But it sees (according to the standard),I was right. This affects all tribes,not just Kikuyus.

http://www.eastandard.ne...000031&cid=457&

Can you doubters answer this question:

Why is it that during Moi's time Banks generally associated with Kale's grew and then collapsed.
Remember Dinners club,trade bank e.t.c causing KENYANS grief?
Why is that during Kibaki's time stocks brokerages generally associated with Kikuyus,grew and collapsed e.g Francis Thuo,discount securites,Nyaga e.t.c? Causing Kenyans grief.

Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it.




1. Putting people of the same kabila in one general segment leads to collusion,corruption,and a feeling of anything goes. It doesn't matter if its Kales,Kiyuks,Luos e.t.c It is a recipe for disaster. Kenyatta,Moi and Kibaki regimes are good examples of this.

2. Was Mccain more qualified then Obama? Yes. But there was need for change from Republicans. And the americans saw that.

3. When we had a Cheif Justice,Finance Minister,Corruption Head (Ringera),Corruption Czar (githongo),Judiciary Minister,Head of Civil service,Internal security head,CID cheif, Defence Minister and later Central bank head all from the same general area,the result was Anglo-leasing,as they schemed and protected themselves. Just like Moi's time and Kenyatta's time. Don't you see this problem?

Solution: Distribute the sensitve posts so that there is no collusion. No scractching of each others back.
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