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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
VituVingiSana
#7691 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 10:36:50 AM
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@Obiero was right about I&M

It is one of the banks being forced to convert their debts into worthless shares in KQ

http://www.businessdaily...0520-88tspaz/index.html

I&M [& all other investees of mine incl Equity and DTB] need to write these loans off. Take the hit and be done.

Forcing banks to convert loans into worthless shares in wrong but mta-do?
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Pesa Nane
#7692 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 10:48:03 AM
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"..The Company's shareholders and prospective investors are advised to exercise caution when dealing with the securities of the Company.." ..."Company Shareholders will be invited to participate in a new issue of equity on a pro rata basis, although at a significant dilution to current position"


Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Ericsson
#7693 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 10:49:11 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@Obiero was right about I&M

It is one of the banks being forced to convert their debts into worthless shares in KQ

http://www.businessdaily...0520-88tspaz/index.html

I&M [& all other investees of mine incl Equity and DTB] need to write these loans off. Take the hit and be done.

Forcing banks to convert loans into worthless shares in wrong but mta-do?
++

@VVS
Your money and investment is safe with this clause;
"However, if KQ’s share price will not have risen sufficiently to cover their exposure by 2027, the government has guaranteed to step in and pay these local banks a lump sum of $75 million (Sh7.7 billion).
In the case of liquidation, which is what the intricate restructuring plan is trying to prevent, the Treasury will wire Sh28.8 billion to the 11 banks — placing a heavy burden on the economy and taxpayers."

Otherwise KQ is dead dead I don't see it recovering or coming back.
For those waiting share price appreciation sorrryyy
Look at this clause also
"The government is, however, more concerned with the loans owed to local banks since Barclays Bank Plc, Citibank and JP Morgan have the option of selling KQ’s planes to recover their funds with “minimal residual risk to government.”

If it had a problem repaying sh.25bn what about 77bn with competition from SGR in the domestic scene.
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Pesa Nane
#7694 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 10:52:06 AM
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Readable version
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
maka
#7695 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 10:57:20 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@Obiero was right about I&M

It is one of the banks being forced to convert their debts into worthless shares in KQ

http://www.businessdaily...0520-88tspaz/index.html

I&M [& all other investees of mine incl Equity and DTB] need to write these loans off. Take the hit and be done.

Forcing banks to convert loans into worthless shares in wrong but mta-do?


Gosh this is bad..
possunt quia posse videntur
Ericsson
#7696 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 11:05:40 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Readable version



Rights issue is to retire part of the bank's debt.
VVS at least you will salvage something
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Kausha
#7697 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 11:08:35 AM
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The paper version of Business Daily has the detailed story. It is very clear Banks will convert to equity. There is no rights issue but a new share issue to retire the debt by conversion
Ericsson
#7698 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 11:13:25 AM
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Kausha wrote:
The paper version of Business Daily has the detailed story. It is very clear Banks will convert to equity. There is no rights issue but a new share issue to retire the debt by conversion


Wewe read the cautionary statement
What does company shareholders will be invited to particpate in a new issue of equity on a pro-rata basis although at a significant dilution to the current positions mean.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
kawi254
#7699 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 12:12:33 PM
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Waiting for the loan write offs to find out which bank was swimming naked
sparkly
#7700 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 1:20:03 PM
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They will probably create a special class of shares/ hybrid security for the banks.

Banks are not stupid.
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