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Coop Bank - Stocksmaster's 1st Play 2013
obiero
#741 Posted : Wednesday, August 22, 2018 6:06:26 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,215
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Industry status now shows COOP at number 2 both in terms of assets and liabilities as per Q1 2018 data. Though I was dead wrong about simba which reigns solidly supreme, growing larger and larger


COOP still the bank to watch. Now second top in market share 9.9%. Slightly behind KCB at 14.4%.. https://www.standardmedi...ins-top-in-pecking-order

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#742 Posted : Wednesday, August 22, 2018 6:10:04 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,215
Location: nairobi
obier wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
obiero wrote:
Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day

COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya

Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html

@Obiero
In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB.
If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening.
KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn.
Gap is ksh.11.1bn

KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn
Gap is ksh.11.4bn

It takes just a couple of big ticket items to move a bank from tier 2 to tier 1.. In the same vein, simple strong corporate lending moves can make the difference for COOP, starting with Two Rivers.. Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May http://www.businessdaily...1654-vnmjkrz/index.html


Where have I read this sort of comment before? "Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May "


Industry status now shows COOP at number 2 both in terms of assets and liabilities as per Q1 2018 data

COOP still the bank to watch. Now second top in market share 9.9%. Slightly behind KCB at 14.4%.. https://www.standardmedi...ins-top-in-pecking-order

KQ ABP 4.26
Ericsson
#743 Posted : Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:41:37 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
obier wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
[quote=obiero]Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day

COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya

Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html

@Obiero
In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB.
If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening.
KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn.
Gap is ksh.11.1bn

KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn
Gap is ksh.11.4bn

It takes just a couple of big ticket items to move a bank from tier 2 to tier 1.. In the same vein, simple strong corporate lending moves can make the difference for COOP, starting with Two Rivers.. Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May http://www.businessdaily...1654-vnmjkrz/index.html


Where have I read this sort of comment before? "Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May "


Industry status now shows COOP at number 2 both in terms of assets and liabilities as per Q1 2018 data

COOP still the bank to watch. Now second top in market share 9.9%. Slightly behind KCB at 14.4%.. https://www.standardmedi...ns-top-in-pecking-order[/quote]

Equity declining
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Angelica _ann
#744 Posted : Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:44:02 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,935
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obier wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
[quote=obiero]Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day

COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya

Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html

@Obiero
In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB.
If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening.
KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn.
Gap is ksh.11.1bn

KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn
Gap is ksh.11.4bn

It takes just a couple of big ticket items to move a bank from tier 2 to tier 1.. In the same vein, simple strong corporate lending moves can make the difference for COOP, starting with Two Rivers.. Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May http://www.businessdaily...1654-vnmjkrz/index.html


Where have I read this sort of comment before? "Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May "


Industry status now shows COOP at number 2 both in terms of assets and liabilities as per Q1 2018 data

COOP still the bank to watch. Now second top in market share 9.9%. Slightly behind KCB at 14.4%.. https://www.standardmedi...ns-top-in-pecking-order[/quote]

Equity declining


What do you mean? Coop ama?
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
obiero
#745 Posted : Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:46:45 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,215
Location: nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obier wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
obiero wrote:
Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day

COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya

Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html

@Obiero
In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB.
If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening.
KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn.
Gap is ksh.11.1bn

KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn
Gap is ksh.11.4bn

It takes just a couple of big ticket items to move a bank from tier 2 to tier 1.. In the same vein, simple strong corporate lending moves can make the difference for COOP, starting with Two Rivers.. Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May http://www.businessdaily...1654-vnmjkrz/index.html


Where have I read this sort of comment before? "Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May "


Industry status now shows COOP at number 2 both in terms of assets and liabilities as per Q1 2018 data

COOP still the bank to watch. Now second top in market share 9.9%. Slightly behind KCB at 14.4%.. https://www.standardmedi...ns-top-in-pecking-order


Equity declining


What do you mean? Coop ama?

If COOP is to finally get a merchant acquirer license then it will automatically displace KCB in market share %
1. KCB 14.4
2. COOP 9.93
3. EQTY 9.85
4. SCBK 7.11
5. DTB 6.72
6. BBK 6.57
7. CBA 6.05
8. STBC 5.62

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#746 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2018 10:40:08 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,215
Location: nairobi
Ericsson
#747 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2018 6:25:13 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obier wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
obiero wrote:
Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day

COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya

Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html

@Obiero
In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB.
If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening.
KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn.
Gap is ksh.11.1bn

KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn
Gap is ksh.11.4bn

It takes just a couple of big ticket items to move a bank from tier 2 to tier 1.. In the same vein, simple strong corporate lending moves can make the difference for COOP, starting with Two Rivers.. Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May http://www.businessdaily...1654-vnmjkrz/index.html


Where have I read this sort of comment before? "Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May "


Industry status now shows COOP at number 2 both in terms of assets and liabilities as per Q1 2018 data

COOP still the bank to watch. Now second top in market share 9.9%. Slightly behind KCB at 14.4%.. https://www.standardmedi...ns-top-in-pecking-order


Equity declining


What do you mean? Coop ama?

If COOP is to finally get a merchant acquirer license then it will automatically displace KCB in market share %
1. KCB 14.4
2. COOP 9.93
3. EQTY 9.85
4. SCBK 7.11
5. DTB 6.72
6. BBK 6.57
7. CBA 6.05
8. STBC 5.62


Not that easily. KCB is way ahead and still gaining mkt share
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
murchr
#748 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2018 6:46:23 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Co-Op would be great if they didnt have a stupid Online banking platform
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obiero
#749 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2018 7:52:13 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,215
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obier wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
obiero wrote:
Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day

COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya

Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html

@Obiero
In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB.
If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening.
KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn.
Gap is ksh.11.1bn

KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn
Gap is ksh.11.4bn

It takes just a couple of big ticket items to move a bank from tier 2 to tier 1.. In the same vein, simple strong corporate lending moves can make the difference for COOP, starting with Two Rivers.. Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May http://www.businessdaily...1654-vnmjkrz/index.html


Where have I read this sort of comment before? "Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May "


Industry status now shows COOP at number 2 both in terms of assets and liabilities as per Q1 2018 data

COOP still the bank to watch. Now second top in market share 9.9%. Slightly behind KCB at 14.4%.. https://www.standardmedi...ns-top-in-pecking-order


Equity declining


What do you mean? Coop ama?

If COOP is to finally get a merchant acquirer license then it will automatically displace KCB in market share %
1. KCB 14.4
2. COOP 9.93
3. EQTY 9.85
4. SCBK 7.11
5. DTB 6.72
6. BBK 6.57
7. CBA 6.05
8. STBC 5.62


Not that easily. KCB is way ahead and still gaining mkt share

I'm sure you have gotten wind of the STA

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#750 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2018 6:41:51 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,215
Location: nairobi
You can now withdraw from mpesa on a COOP ATM.. Agent code 472472

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