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Law Capping interest rates
Wakanyugi
#721 Posted : Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:26:41 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
obiero wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Simba must bow down to THE 20s

That is unlikely elder

Next stop.........THE TEENS


If Simba touches the teens, you will find me at the head of the line. KCB has some of the sharpest brains leading it today. That would be reason enough to buy.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Angelica _ann
#722 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2016 6:38:16 AM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
obiero wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Simba must bow down to THE 20s

That is unlikely elder

Next stop.........THE TEENS


If Simba touches the teens, you will find me at the head of the line. KCB has some of the sharpest brains leading it today. That would be reason enough to buy.

Equity is likely to respond better than KCB .
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Impunity
#723 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2016 8:33:05 AM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
obiero wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Simba must bow down to THE 20s

That is unlikely elder

Next stop.........THE TEENS


Me thinks Simba will kiss the toddlers.
Drool
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ecstacy
#724 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2016 9:51:20 AM
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1. Will SACCOs effectiely lend at cheaper rates than the bank interest rates ceiling? Yes/No

2. Has the CRB helped most Kenyan small borrowers access credit at cheaper rates? Yes/No

3. Given audience by the Executive and Treasury technocrats, have the banks offered any concrete proposals to reducing their high interest rates? Yes/No

4. Is Kenya one of the highest developed financial sectors in Africa? Yes/No. Is it also one with the highest interest rates? Yes/No

Peace.
Internet
#725 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2016 11:10:19 AM
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If Banks make less profit due to interest rate capping, KRA will collect less taxes.
Angelica _ann
#726 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2016 11:13:35 AM
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Internet wrote:
If Banks make less profit due to interest rate capping, KRA will collect less taxes.

Yap, including chasing wanjuku thereby resulting in reduced commissions. Looks like in the short run, GoK and the economy wataumia sana!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
KNM
#727 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2016 11:17:41 AM
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This is how I see it playing out, should this law stand.
For one, equilibrium will be reached. So good news for the pro-rate cap crowd. Well sort of...

1. Freeze/slow down in lending: Already began btw. By removing their ability to adequately price the risk into loans(coz thats whats happened!) then better safe than sorry. The leaked memo yesterday was just an example. All will follow suit esp with the unsecured loans.

2. Refusal of deposits
Now plenty of people are confused by this. Nobody is saying a bouncer is at the door stopping you from depositing, it means less welcoming(free). Deposits believe it or not cost banks BIG time. Think of costs at point of deposit(branches, agents/cashiers/personnel, platforms), security of the deposits physical(guards, transit vans, safes) or digital(cybersecurity personnel), accounting (systems, personnel). Beforehand deposits paid for their own costs but now someone has to pay. I can guarantee banks are, as we speak, crunching the numbers. Transaction costs will rise(before you jump with the CS approval line, I'm talking about existing fees), ATM charges rising 100%--from around KES 30 to 60+ etc.Notice how personnel featured severally in the deposit-taking costs? Yep, lay-offs. Like I said someone has to pay.

3. Fall of small banks, rise of big(ger) banks.
Big banks will be able to weather the initial credit freeze. Deep pockets mean easy to diversify. Small banks not so much. And its a catch 22 situation for them. Deny credit and not make money. Lend at low rates and be forced to play with volumes game to break even, and with it risk of default shoots. People will see these banks again going under with customer deposits, coz of defaults. So yes M&As will happen but it will be big swallowing small.

4. Fall of production
Forget the car/smartphone buying consumers for a sec. Businesses esp SMEs being locked out from credit access to fuel their expansion/survival. With that, loss of productivity, worsened by being in an election year. Businesses contract and at best, hiring freeze. More likely, further lay offs.

5. Our regulatory environment has been going haywire. We have already seen multinationals leaving, expect that to worsen. With net flight of forex comes weakening of KES. We're a net import country, weaker shilling means more expensive goods. In an environment of credit crunch and lay-offs mind you.

You will not wake up tomorrow and find yourself in a post-apocalyptic wasteland. It's like an avalanche. Slow at first before ramping up to devastating levels.

Here's a tip:
Remember unsecured loans will be/have been withdrawn among them "Emergency Loans". Wait for an increase in those calls of "nisaidie na ka-loan". Also a lot of people are paid(perhaps unknowingly) by credit facilities. Again salary delays...

Or I might just be a naysayer.
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dunkang
#728 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2016 11:18:03 AM
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Internet wrote:
If Banks make less profit due to interest rate capping, KRA will collect less taxes.

If banks dont have the money, businesses have the money
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

KNM
#729 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2016 11:21:44 AM
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Oh forgot.

The equilibrium?

Expensive accounts, worse unemployment, increase in cost of goods and services.

Yay interest caps! Now if only they could give me that loan I buy (insert whatever here)...

I know! Let's force them to by law! Coz if we dug oursleves into this hole, we can get out by digging some more.
The crowd will cheer your coronation as well as your beheading. People like a show, that's all.
MaichBlack
#730 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2016 11:31:15 AM
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President Uhuru has been a big disappointment on this one. He turned down the advice of Treasury and Central Bank for political reasons. He promised people lower interest rates in the last campaign and he is going to face them again.

He knows this law is f#*ked up (he was briefed by his technocrats) but he had politics/re-election to think about!! Central Bank as so pissed off they said they will not comment on the signing of the bill. Finance Secretary also refused to comment and referred questions to the Attorney General. Who are these other people who advised him to an extent of disregarding the advice of Treasury and CBK???

A president who is willing to mess the whole financial ecosystem to get re-elected is a big no for me!
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