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VituVingiSana		#14341 Posted : Monday, March 02, 2020 10:11:50 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,265 Location: Nairobi		nairobby wrote: passiveinvestor wrote: Ebenyo wrote: Going by KQ latest audited numbers I wonder how Gok will pay shareholders kshs 8 per share. KQ assets-kshs 136,634,000,000 kq debts-kshs 139,127,000,000 kq shareholders funds-kshs (2,493,000,000) This means every KQ shareholder is holding a worthless share worth kshs -0.4 Even the current market price of kshs 2 is indeed a premium. So how does Gok buy a company worth negative 0.4 per share for kshs 8 per share? or which metrics will be used? Gok will have to fork out kshs 45 billion to buy kq shareholders at kshs 8 per share.This will be a huge generous offe Thanks for asking a basic question that no-one has been able to answer. With the new KES5Bn injection approved on Friday, 28th Feb and a weekend of silence, so no chance to trade, Shareholders will be wiped out on Monday. Especially if it convertible debt with a strike price. KQ is now a govt. parastatal. If the banks are getting bought out at 8.25 there's a chance @obiero and his mates will also be bought out at the same price since all shares rank pari passu. Wouldn't it be complicated to buy out different shareholders with the same class of shares at different price points? This is a gamble of a lifetime however, we'll be here to monitor some people's blood pressure GoK could pay the banks off separately/later under the agreements they may have in place. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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maka		#14342 Posted : Tuesday, March 03, 2020 7:41:12 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi		maka wrote: obiero wrote: Ericsson wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ Another one bites the dust... possunt quia posse videntur
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ArrestedDev		#14343 Posted : Thursday, March 05, 2020 9:38:55 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi		maka wrote: maka wrote: obiero wrote: Ericsson wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ Another one bites the dust... Eeeeh ok! Allan might be asking hard questions? Let’s wait and see. One year is enough to see if he is an astute leader. If he also convinced the pilots to withdraw the court cases then KQ is destined for better days ahead. What the heck with the supply chain and facilities redundancies?
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obiero		#14344 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2020 6:28:49 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,974 Location: nairobi		ArrestedDev wrote: maka wrote: maka wrote: obiero wrote: Ericsson wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ Another one bites the dust... Eeeeh ok! Allan might be asking hard questions? Let’s wait and see. One year is enough to see if he is an astute leader. If he also convinced the pilots to withdraw the court cases then KQ is destined for better days ahead. What the heck with the supply chain and facilities redundancies? Allan is competent but the KQ dynamics need more than intellect. Luckily MJ is around KQ ABP 4.48; MTN ABP 5.20
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ArrestedDev		#14345 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2020 12:16:53 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi		obiero wrote: ArrestedDev wrote: maka wrote: maka wrote: obiero wrote: Ericsson wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ Another one bites the dust... Eeeeh ok! Allan might be asking hard questions? Let’s wait and see. One year is enough to see if he is an astute leader. If he also convinced the pilots to withdraw the court cases then KQ is destined for better days ahead. What the heck with the supply chain and facilities redundancies? Allan is competent but the KQ dynamics need more than intellect. Luckily MJ is around The cost base is the problem. Attacking the cost base by eliminating Directors on hefty pay is the beginning of the journey. It will take a long time to pull it out of the mess. Intellect and strategy is very important. Corona virus will throw it off the recovery path this year.
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obiero		#14346 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2020 4:52:24 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,974 Location: nairobi		ArrestedDev wrote: obiero wrote: ArrestedDev wrote: maka wrote: maka wrote: obiero wrote: Ericsson wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ Another one bites the dust... Eeeeh ok! Allan might be asking hard questions? Let’s wait and see. One year is enough to see if he is an astute leader. If he also convinced the pilots to withdraw the court cases then KQ is destined for better days ahead. What the heck with the supply chain and facilities redundancies? Allan is competent but the KQ dynamics need more than intellect. Luckily MJ is around The cost base is the problem. Attacking the cost base by eliminating Directors on hefty pay is the beginning of the journey. It will take a long time to pull it out of the mess. Intellect and strategy is very important. Corona virus will throw it off the recovery path this year. True. Corona will hit all airlines hard KQ ABP 4.48; MTN ABP 5.20
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maka		#14347 Posted : Sunday, March 08, 2020 11:41:05 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi		obiero wrote: ArrestedDev wrote: obiero wrote: ArrestedDev wrote: maka wrote: maka wrote: obiero wrote: Ericsson wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ Another one bites the dust... Eeeeh ok! Allan might be asking hard questions? Let’s wait and see. One year is enough to see if he is an astute leader. If he also convinced the pilots to withdraw the court cases then KQ is destined for better days ahead. What the heck with the supply chain and facilities redundancies? Allan is competent but the KQ dynamics need more than intellect. Luckily MJ is around The cost base is the problem. Attacking the cost base by eliminating Directors on hefty pay is the beginning of the journey. It will take a long time to pull it out of the mess. Intellect and strategy is very important. Corona virus will throw it off the recovery path this year. True. Corona will hit all airlines hard possunt quia posse videntur
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obiero		#14348 Posted : Sunday, March 08, 2020 11:47:27 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,974 Location: nairobi		A blessing in disguise. MJ and AK should rock the headcount boat now or forever hold their peace KQ ABP 4.48; MTN ABP 5.20
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Ericsson		#14349 Posted : Sunday, March 08, 2020 3:04:10 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,798 Location: NAIROBI		obiero wrote: A blessing in disguise. MJ and AK should rock the headcount boat now or forever hold their peace Rock the headcount with which money Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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obiero		#14350 Posted : Sunday, March 08, 2020 8:53:08 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,974 Location: nairobi		Ericsson wrote: obiero wrote: A blessing in disguise. MJ and AK should rock the headcount boat now or forever hold their peace Rock the headcount with which money 5B remember KQ ABP 4.48; MTN ABP 5.20
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VituVingiSana		#14351 Posted : Monday, March 09, 2020 4:12:48 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,265 Location: Nairobi		https://www.iata.org/en/...sroom/pr/2020-03-02-01/ IATA Requests Global Suspension of Slot Rules Due to Coronavirus Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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ArrestedDev		#14352 Posted : Monday, March 09, 2020 6:25:40 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi		maka wrote: obiero wrote: ArrestedDev wrote: obiero wrote: ArrestedDev wrote: maka wrote: maka wrote: obiero wrote: Ericsson wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/KQ-to-lay-off-staff-in-restructuring/3946234-5435488-oxcevb/index.html KQ to lay off staff in restructuring They asked for it Next they will come for your shares Hehe. Does that make sense Allan ahs confirmed today that it will be majorly restructurinv but there will be an option for early retirement ukijiskia.. ION Clare Ward has been shown the door because of some major conflict of interest... Pushing IS biashara to her cronies... Even the newbies have taken up such behaviour..... 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ Another one bites the dust... Eeeeh ok! Allan might be asking hard questions? Let’s wait and see. One year is enough to see if he is an astute leader. If he also convinced the pilots to withdraw the court cases then KQ is destined for better days ahead. What the heck with the supply chain and facilities redundancies? Allan is competent but the KQ dynamics need more than intellect. Luckily MJ is around The cost base is the problem. Attacking the cost base by eliminating Directors on hefty pay is the beginning of the journey. It will take a long time to pull it out of the mess. Intellect and strategy is very important. Corona virus will throw it off the recovery path this year. True. Corona will hit all airlines hard The struggling ones like KQ will close shop, just like Flybe.
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obiero		#14353 Posted : Monday, March 09, 2020 6:46:01 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,974 Location: nairobi		KQ will continue obtaining GoK support for eternity. With current GoK shareholding of 48%, no one in the know can state that GoK will let KQ die KQ ABP 4.48; MTN ABP 5.20
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Spikes		#14354 Posted : Monday, March 09, 2020 7:04:50 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa		obiero wrote: KQ will continue obtaining GoK support for eternity. With current GoK shareholding of 48%, no one in the know can state that GoK will let KQ die We are living in hard times. @obiero be prepared . With corona virus even the government is not safe. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Ericsson		#14355 Posted : Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:13:00 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,798 Location: NAIROBI		Spikes wrote: obiero wrote: KQ will continue obtaining GoK support for eternity. With current GoK shareholding of 48%, no one in the know can state that GoK will let KQ die We are living in hard times. @obiero be prepared . With corona virus even the government is not safe. KQ share price closed below ksh.2 in trading yesterday. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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obiero		#14356 Posted : Wednesday, March 11, 2020 6:16:53 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,974 Location: nairobi		Ericsson wrote: Spikes wrote: obiero wrote: KQ will continue obtaining GoK support for eternity. With current GoK shareholding of 48%, no one in the know can state that GoK will let KQ die We are living in hard times. @obiero be prepared . With corona virus even the government is not safe. KQ share price closed below ksh.2 in trading yesterday. Corona will definitely impact our economy as a whole KQ ABP 4.48; MTN ABP 5.20
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Angelica _ann		#14357 Posted : Wednesday, March 11, 2020 7:02:19 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,929		This misungu conclusion will further finish KQ; https://www.standardmedi...ht-crash-that-killed-114 In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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nairobby		#14358 Posted : Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:18:44 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 1/18/2019 Posts: 185 Location: kenya		[quote=Angelica _ann]This misungu conclusion will further finish KQ; https://www.standardmedi...t-crash-that-killed-114[/quote] This report was done & concluded 10 years ago. Now is when the media is catching up?
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ArrestedDev		#14359 Posted : Wednesday, March 11, 2020 4:32:37 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi		nairobby wrote: [quote=Angelica _ann]This misungu conclusion will further finish KQ; https://www.standardmedi...t-crash-that-killed-114[/quote] This report was done & concluded 10 years ago. Now is when the media is catching up? Rudder design defects brought the plane down for those who do not know. Some families with information even tried to sue Boeing but the case was dismissed only based on an argument about the jurisdiction.
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ArrestedDev		#14360 Posted : Wednesday, March 11, 2020 4:41:27 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi		ArrestedDev wrote: nairobby wrote: [quote=Angelica _ann]This misungu conclusion will further finish KQ; https://www.standardmedi...t-crash-that-killed-114[/quote] This report was done & concluded 10 years ago. Now is when the media is catching up? Rudder design defects brought the plane down for those who do not know. Some families with information even tried to sue Boeing but the case was dismissed only based on an argument about the jurisdiction. Case is in the link below for those who want to read I can’t find the details of the specific case. https://www.hklaw.com/en...nveniensi-dismissal-in-a
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