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what next for KENRE & KQ?
VituVingiSana
#61 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:22:17 PM
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PKoli wrote:
@Much
True, but it is a nightmare to Financial Analysts. How does one project revenue going forward for say 5 years? It is for that reason that I try to keep off such stocks. Too many externalities

Most stocks have externalities... Tell me one that doesn't have significant externalities... and it will be 'pricey' vis-a-vis the rest
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Much Know
#62 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:37:33 PM
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@pkoli, those 'unknowns' is where you look for opportunity, i don't know much about graphs but well managed listed companies offer good measurable opportunities over time
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youcan'tstopusnow
#63 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:55:56 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
I agree. Flights were full in June/July for WC. Still seem full. If Referendoom goes 'quiet' then another boom?

VVS, the problem in Kenya is that there is a thin line between a boom and a KABOOM!
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PKoli
#64 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:57:47 PM
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@VVS almost all companies have, but KQ has too many and more significant. Take the case of fuel, if we have a significant global increase,KQ will suffer. If there is a global recession like the recent one the impact on their bottomline is huge. If you look at utilities, local banks, other services companies like safcom, scangroup, the impact is of a lesser magnitude.
VituVingiSana
#65 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:43:21 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I agree. Flights were full in June/July for WC. Still seem full. If Referendoom goes 'quiet' then another boom?

VVS, the problem in Kenya is that there is a thin line between a boom and a KABOOM!
Sad Sad Sad
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
guru267
#66 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:31:57 PM
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underweight wrote:
Where are those who were so optimistic just before the end year result was made??? Or was it being propped up!

@underweight @VVS and I sold the day after the results were announced at 13bob due to the unpleasant surprise... And I rmbr screaming SELL warnings all over wazua from the moment i read their statements
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Deuteronomy 4:16
StatMeister
#67 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:30:20 PM
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Insurances are in a frenzy to sell policital insurance. Wazuans should be cautious given referendum is < 30 days away.

This applies to insurances, as well as Kenya Re which re-insures the other insurances 9and is co-owned by the other insurances - read re-valuations).

Please don't read anything I have not written. Am just saying that am not sure why a wazuan wants to carry such a risk.

An insurer who faces claims of 1b (2 factories) is in for trouble for a loooong time, including trouble with the regulators (they don't care how you lost your capital, they just want you to increase it to 500m - no dividends, rights issue bla bla bla).

Anyone still in love with insurances, consider getting in AFTER referendum.
A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work
youcan'tstopusnow
#68 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:41:29 PM
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StatMeister, ati investing is just a beautiful name for speculation? hmm
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StatMeister
#69 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:06:14 PM
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@y, almost and am a speculator . . . always been
A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work
PKoli
#70 Posted : Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:31:45 AM
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@StatMeister
Unless they quacks, the pricing of premiums should be able to cover claims. Unless you are forecasting the referendum to be like pev. What is the work of actuaries in the re-insurance companies?
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