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Kenya Debt Watch
Scubidu
#61 Posted : Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:56:22 PM
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"Wa_ithaka. I hadn't made my point yet...was hoping you'd answer the Qs. Nway polite. I wish economics was as simple as your illustration.
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Wa_ithaka
#62 Posted : Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:49:20 PM
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Scubidu-if you asked 5 economists the same questions, you'd get 6 answers
The Governor of Nyeri - 2017
Scubidu
#63 Posted : Saturday, September 11, 2010 10:45:27 PM
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Fact: The savings rate dropped from 15.5% in 2008 to 11.1% in 2009. Why are people not saving. It hasn't been this low since 2003. Is it perception? The inflation rate just happened to drop during last year and this year it'll be even lower. So what does it matter? The correlation between saving and inflation is high, ~0.8, so the lower inflation goes the less people save. How will we fund future consumption? With debt? Something to think about considering the current inflation outlook is expected to remain stable in the medium to long term.

This week's CBK bulletin reveals gross liquidity in the banking system, over 32.2 billion in reserves, there are even excess of currency in circulation, but apparently that doesn't affect inflation (in our country). Debt Watch: Kenya's gross domestic debt just jumped from 660 billion to 694 billion in a week. Are you still keeping track or the numbers just a statistic to you?

Read more:

http://www.centralbank.g...n/2010/Sept/10092010.pdf
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#64 Posted : Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:13:04 PM
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In reference to the points I was trying to make earlier. Perhaps the reason why CBK is interfering with currency markets; it got the directive from Treasury in the budget speech; support exports; but why? World Bank says:

The Kenya Economic Update describes the Kenyan economy as “running on one engine” since growth is imbalanced, predominantly driven by domestic consumption fuelled by imports. Exports, it explains, are weak — shrinking from 40 percent of total output in the 1960s to 26 percent in 2009 — due to the underperformance of the agriculture and manufacturing sectors. This import-led growth has also created a large current account deficit.

On the „Kenya Can End Poverty‟ blog, Wolfgang Fengler, Lead Economic Specialist for Kenya, discusses strategic ways to improve Kenya‟s exports. The specialist points out that exports will only increase if the infrastructure deficit is improved, specifically the port of Mombasa. “Mombasa is the most important single piece of infrastructure in East Africa, and it remains a key bottleneck for trade,” said Fengler.


Read more:

http://blogs.worldbank.o...running-on-one-engine-0

http://web.worldbank.org...heSitePK:356509,00.html

http://www.africabusines...l-kenya-economic-update/
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#65 Posted : Saturday, October 09, 2010 12:52:23 PM
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Kenya's public debt in December 2009 was 1,114.4 billion with external at 525.5 billion and 588.9 as domestic.

But by June 2010 public debt climed to 1,200.7 billion, 541.0 billion as external and 659.7 billion as domestic. By the end of Q3 the domestic debt has grown to 704.8 billion which bring public debt to 1,245.8 billion. In terms of q-o-q increases

Q1 - 62.8 billion
Q2 - 23.5 billion
Q3 - 45.1 billion

In terms of debt productivity the economy must grow by over 9.2% to match the increases in debt to the increase in revenue. The only good news is that some of Q1 debt will mature in Q4. Begs the question of whether external borrowing is now higher or not in Q3?
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#66 Posted : Tuesday, October 12, 2010 8:37:54 PM
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The Schiff Report. The last three video blogs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deQa7CxocGc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLSrsK2XS4M

http://www.youtube.com/user/SchiffReport
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#67 Posted : Sunday, November 07, 2010 6:44:32 PM
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Yes our debt seems to be in control but in an economy driven by consumption, a savings rate that has dropped by 51% in one year, an apparently ultra-low inflation (also down by more than half) then some stats should be highlighted as serious.

Official statistics now show that the debt to gdp ratio has risen from 44.2% to 50.5% in the past year to July 2010 alone and this should no longer be "okay". More so it's risen from 45% to 50% in 2010 alone at a time when GDP is supposedly growing by leaps and bounds (or is it just the government spending as they monetized debt in Q1 and Q2).

It maybe okay from a interest payment or debt service prospective but leads to other crappy asset bubbles (read: real estate). Why would you want to do fixed income? Buy real estate and banking stocks.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#68 Posted : Friday, November 12, 2010 10:42:15 AM
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A quick read of the latest Monthly Economic Review for August 2010 is most perplexing. You don't have to be an economist to realize the numbers are all confusing, but just be able to apply simple maths.

The debt to gdp ratio involves comparing the public debt figure to the GDP figure at market prices. Using the data on pages 5 & 39 of the document we can see that GDP market prices was Ksh2,274 bn in 2009 while the public debt was Ksh1,115 bn. So the debt to gdp ratio should be 49.0% in Dec-09 and not the 45.1% officially stated.

In any case these differences may be due to some error or funny standard applied, we'll never know for sure. One thing that we do know know is that page 39 tells us that the country's public debt rose 13% from Ksh1,114.5 bn to KSh1,263.7 bn from Dec-09 to Aug-10 while the debt to gdp ratio reportedly rose from 45.1% to 51.2%.

First thing is first, simple maths will tell you that based on those figures GDP is FALLING...eehhh? Lastly using the govt figures of debt (1,115) and the given ratio (45.1%) for Dec-09, shouldn't GDP be Ksh2,471 bn (by simple maths) and not Ksh2,274 bn officially reported?

Can one really trust these figures?

http://www.centralbank.g...ublications/default.aspx
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
hisah
#69 Posted : Friday, November 12, 2010 11:07:39 AM
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Quite interesting this GDP ratio math. We're also fudging figures just like the west. The KE banks have refused to partake the fudged inflation rate drastic drop while in the west, banks have refused to lend. Seems a disconnect is happening btwn govt & financiers. This will be an interesting faceoff...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#70 Posted : Friday, November 12, 2010 11:23:56 AM
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The increase in Debt to GDP ratio, though in control, should be worrying. How far should it go? What is the threshold?
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