I believe people would also be well served if they are able to separate biblical evidence from historical evidence. Biblical evidence on occasions necessitates "suspense of disbelief" (willingness to suspend one's critical faculties and believe the unbelievable - Wikipedia). For example - that an empty tomb implies resurrection. Historical evidence would show nil such events occurring unless one is willing to assume Osiris, Mithra, Dionysus, Romulus were all real. However, understanding that the bible is a human book (errant, not always inspired, fallible), there are still many good lessons to learn from it - if you can separate oneself from the apocalyptic narrative.

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Most contemporary scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, and most biblical scholars and classical historians see the theories of his nonexistence as effectively refuted.[5][7][8][33][34][35] There is no indication that writers in antiquity who opposed Christianity questioned the existence of Jesus.[36][37] However, there is widespread disagreement among scholars on the details of the life of Jesus mentioned in the gospel narratives, and on the meaning of his teachings.[12] Scholars differ on the historicity of specific episodes described in the biblical accounts of Jesus,[12] and historians tend to look upon supernatural or miraculous claims about Jesus as questions of faith, rather than historical fact.[38]

Almost all modern scholars consider his baptism and crucifixion to be historical facts

@Apr choose a fact, there will always be those for and those against, it comes down to your interpretation of infor available to you (and criteria of analysis) no one else! both positions are true based on the information you choose to believe

@T-bag. Except that if one accepts rational thought, then both positions can't be true or correct. Both can be wrong or only one can be true. But (and I am agreeing with you here), if the criteria of analysis is faith based, then the truth is what one wants to believe. That I cannot argue with.

The SUPERNATURAL does exist!!!

@hamburglar would like to see it as foolishness but there are many cases of unexplained things like what you've referred to.

I was reading Ian Henderson's Man Hunt In Kenya as provided in a link in wazua by Foz00.(Hendreson is the guy who led the operation for the capture of Dedan Kimathi)

Henderson is dismissive of African(Kikuyu) beliefs...mugumo(fig) tree sanctity, witchdoctors etc. He seems to opine that they're backward, useless beliefs

So he wins over different Mau Mau leaders and soldiers in the Aberdares to his side in his strategy to isolate Kimathi.

One day, while hunting for General Kahiu Itina, they encounter the strangest thing. They find Kahiu Itina's squad in a traditional prayer session guided by a medicineman, King'ori.

Gati, the man in charge of the attacking gang, points his gun at the group. King'ori directs the group not to flee but co-operate with the invaders because he had dreamt the previous night of a band that would come to save them. Kahiu Itina's gang became docile and harmless even fetching the ropes by which they were bound with!

Why? Because they had listened to King'ori's prophecy! Henderson confirms later, by separate interviewing that indeed King'ori had prophesied the coming of saviours!

Later, Henderson visits King'ori in prison. King'ori predicts that Kimathi will be arrested "in the tenth month before the rains for millet planting begin"

That was April 1956. Henderson did not think it would take that long to arrest Kimathi. He found it laughable. But Kimathi was only arrested on October 21 1956.

Link ndio hii https://ia902706.us.arch...untinkenya006748mbp.pdf

Dude, are you sure you read the book or just googled adultery+bible?

Wacha kutuangusha buda!

Creator is a description as is manufacturer. To distinguish one manufacturer from another, each one has a name: Toyota, Nissan, Isuzu etc.

Likewise, the Creator informed us by what name we should call him. He chose *ALLAAH*.

I don't think it is right to dispute that, just as it would not be right to ask Toyota why they would like to be called Toyota and not just manufacturer.

It is common sense that when we are employed in any institution we follow instructions as laid down by the employer. The consequence of not following instructions will only be felt when we have been sacked. Of course you can't prove what it will be like to lose your job until you lost it. And none of those who lost their jobs are allowed to hang around the premises. Don't wait to be sacked. Just be humble and follow the instructions. It is we who will feel better if we toe the line.

Allaah (the Creator, the manufacturer, the designer) keeps on telling us to use our intelligence. I think this means scientific thought process. Ama?

unlike repeatable things... the supernatural is obscure! it never really happen infront of everyone and in a predictable manner! does it exist? I don't know! but it doesn't help it's case by remaining obscure...

Having a vision is something repeatable. The 'supernatural' is something that may be natural but whose relations and significance belong to a mythical world.

For example, the crossing of the red sea and drowning of Pharaoh's men is a symbol for a complete seperation of a people from each other.

The miracle is the seperation. The vision is the decision to seperate.