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Tale of Transcentury CEO exit, Sh8b Debt
Gatheuzi
#121 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2016 9:58:48 AM
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snipermnoma wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@snipermnoma;
Could you post the information on the link here?


Here goes http://pasteboard.co/2hgjbOCc.png if you post the image directly on was please do...imenishinda

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Gatheuzi
#122 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:02:03 AM
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More comments on the half solution;
Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
muganda
#123 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:55:59 AM
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Pesa Nane
#124 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:58:08 AM
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Othelo wrote:
US$20B, okay ....... more to follow!!! Watching from the sidelines

Yawa!
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Othelo
#125 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:48:10 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Othelo wrote:
US$20B, okay ....... more to follow!!! Watching from the sidelines

Yawa!

Sorry US$ 20 Million .... blame it on Eurobond confusion Brick wall
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VituVingiSana
#126 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:48:52 AM
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8bn + interest is due. 2bn is a start but nowhere near what is required.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#127 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:52:39 AM
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muganda wrote:

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Applause Applause Applause Why would someone like @LinusGitahi start quoting "forces of darkness" bullshit? On Wazua, we have been discussing the probably "downfall" of TCL for ages. Heck, some Wazuans have done so since it listed.
Gotta respect @Sang252 for calling out LG on this.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mlennyma
#128 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:07:03 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
8bn + interest is due. 2bn is a start but nowhere near what is required.

bandia firms
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Othelo
#129 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2016 1:22:10 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
muganda wrote:

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Applause Applause Applause Why would someone like @LinusGitahi start quoting "forces of darkness" bullshit? On Wazua, we have been discussing the probably "downfall" of TCL for ages. Heck, some Wazuans have done so since it listed.
Gotta respect @Sang252 for calling out LG on this.

He is the current Chair of FKE... Plus you never know linkage and lineage..... if you read those tweets he is also talking of change in management. I think he is invested in here heavily or vested interest!!!
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
hisah
#130 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2016 3:58:55 PM
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Deadline for the bond money is next Friday. Ten days to go and no solid plans in place! This is looking like default.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mlennyma
#131 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2016 4:08:26 PM
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hisah wrote:
Deadline for the bond money is next Friday. Ten days to go and no solid plans in place! This is looking like default.

i find those agreeing to give some cash on this company very bold,its value could be less than 2b
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Kusadikika
#132 Posted : Wednesday, March 16, 2016 4:16:37 PM
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This is all window dressing. This company is dead and the shareholders and management know it. Bond holders say give us 4 billion cash then do rights issue where we convert the rest into equity which means current shareholders end up with a tiny fraction of the company. If you know you are going to lose the company anyway why bother coming up with the 4 billion payment? I am waiting for 25th. This debt is going to default. There is a 1% chance I may be wrong.
hisah
#133 Posted : Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:18:16 PM
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The question is how will global investors handle the TCL eurobond default? What will be the likely effect to NSE foreign inflows post default?

NSE bulls walking on thin ice...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Spikes
#134 Posted : Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:33:52 PM
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hisah wrote:
The question is how will global investors handle the TCL eurobond default? What will be the likely effect to NSE foreign inflows post default?

NSE bulls walking on thin ice...



A default could be a red herring at NSE for foreign investors. But it wouldn't last for long!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Fyatu
#135 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 4:14:46 PM
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This man also forged tender documents and beat transcentury on the Kengen tender LINK

This why Transcentury went to court to challenge the tender offer LINK

This is how the judge decided the case LINK


Ama kweli, the judiciary is also playing its part in destroying Kenyan companies

Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
Fyatu
#136 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 4:29:07 PM
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further reading

Link
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
mlennyma
#137 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 11:03:04 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
This man also forged tender documents and beat transcentury on the Kengen tender LINK

This why Transcentury went to court to challenge the tender offer LINK

This is how the judge decided the case LINK


Ama kweli, the judiciary is also playing its part in destroying Kenyan companies


this is kenya,they need a connected mogul to bring in the tenders
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Boris Boyka
#138 Posted : Saturday, March 19, 2016 10:29:06 AM
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Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
The question is how will global investors handle the TCL eurobond default? What will be the likely effect to NSE foreign inflows post default?

NSE bulls walking on thin ice...



A default could be a red herring at NSE for foreign investors. But it wouldn't last for long!

I like how you learn new terms here and apply them almost immediately.
"red herring is something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important issue. It may be either a logical fallacy or a literary device that leads readers or audiences towards a false conclusion"
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
Spikes
#139 Posted : Saturday, March 19, 2016 7:29:02 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
The question is how will global investors handle the TCL eurobond default? What will be the likely effect to NSE foreign inflows post default?

NSE bulls walking on thin ice...



A default could be a red herring at NSE for foreign investors. But it wouldn't last for long!

I like how you learn new terms here and apply them almost immediately.
"red herring is something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important issue. It may be either a logical fallacy or a literary device that leads readers or audiences towards a false conclusion"


I knew these terms long time ago before joining Wazua though is a great experience of refreshing levels of analyses .
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
hisah
#140 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2016 11:13:57 AM
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The week from hell for TCL is here. Let's see how the events play out.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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