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@kiash it's a big turning point when someone realises that there's nothing at all supernatural about what holy leaders do. One atheist who was a former altar boy told me he realised something was amiss when he saw behind the curtain. "Holy Water" ni maji ya tap, Eucharist just a wafer, nothing magical happens when your open the tabernacle, etc. Keep questioning.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Mike Ock wrote:@kiash it's a big turning point when someone realises that there's nothing at all supernatural about what holy leaders do. One atheist who was a former altar boy told me he realised something was amiss when he saw behind the curtain. "Holy Water" ni maji ya tap, Eucharist just a wafer, nothing magical happens when your open the tabernacle, etc. Keep questioning. John the Baptist, baptised Jesus Christ kwa maji ya lake, where many more had come before Him. Must have been dirty and muddy. If you expect water used in Church to be fancy, or anything else for that matter, si utangoja! Faith is what separates believers from no-believers. Belief. Supernatural stuff ie Gifts of the Holy Spirit or demonic works don't show up on demand.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:The Catholic church owns vast tracts of idle land, it's good to talk against the ills, but at least remove the log in your eye first. The land is only idle for now.At the opportune time a school,hospital,nyumba ya wazee,seminary,agricultural institute etc will come up sooner than later. Of late they are even selling plots to their flock at very afffordable rates. In short using the land to meet basic needs of humanity. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Quote:Friday November 27, 2015 - Coalition for Reforms and Democracy (CORD) leader, Raila Odinga, was on Thursday spotted drinking heavily at Nairobi West hours after attending Pope Francis’ sermon at University of Nairobi grounds. Raila, who was accompanied by Siaya Senator, James Orengo, was busted by snoops enjoying single malt Scotch Glenfiddich. A source said Raila Odinga went to the pub to relax after his efforts to greet the Pope at UoN were thwarted by his no nonsense bodyguards. Raila, who was accompanied by CORD principals, Kalonzo Musyoka and Moses Wetangula, went to the mass at UoN hoping that the Pope will recognise him because he is the Leader of Opposition in Kenya but when the Pope finished his sermon, he headed straight to St Mary’s School where he met religious leaders before heading to UNEP. The Pope’s move incensed the Opposition Leader who went straight to Nairobi West to cool off by taking a few shots of scotch. Here are photos of Raila Odinga  
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Bigchick wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:The Catholic church owns vast tracts of idle land, it's good to talk against the ills, but at least remove the log in your eye first. The land is only idle for now.At the opportune time a school,hospital,nyumba ya wazee,seminary,agricultural institute etc will come up sooner than later. Of late they are even selling plots to their flock at very afffordable rates. In short using the land to meet basic needs of humanity. Exactly. Hundreds of yrs from now the catholic church will still be in existence (if Jesus wouldn't have come) and they will be building schools, hospitals and other institutions on that land for the benefit of our progeny. Meanwhile by then all govt land would have been grabbed, even parliament itself, by selfish and short sighted individuals, and it won't even have a kaplot to put up a school for the citizens.
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hardwood wrote:Bigchick wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:The Catholic church owns vast tracts of idle land, it's good to talk against the ills, but at least remove the log in your eye first. The land is only idle for now.At the opportune time a school,hospital,nyumba ya wazee,seminary,agricultural institute etc will come up sooner than later. Of late they are even selling plots to their flock at very afffordable rates. In short using the land to meet basic needs of humanity. Exactly. Hundreds of yrs from now the catholic church will still be in existence (if Jesus wouldn't have come) and they will be building schools, hospitals and other institutions on that land for the benefit of our progeny. Meanwhile by then all govt land would have been grabbed, even parliament itself, by selfish and short sighted individuals, and it won't even have a kaplot to put up a school for the citizens. Ok, never thought of it that way, if they are the good guys to be entrusted with land then that's fine.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2015 Posts: 604
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Mike Ock wrote:@kiash it's a big turning point when someone realises that there's nothing at all supernatural about what holy leaders do. One atheist who was a former altar boy told me he realised something was amiss when he saw behind the curtain. "Holy Water" ni maji ya tap, Eucharist just a wafer, nothing magical happens when your open the tabernacle, etc. Keep questioning. Naturalism (philosophy)Philosophical & Methodological Naturalism
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Mike Ock wrote:@kiash it's a big turning point when someone realises that there's nothing at all supernatural about what holy leaders do. One atheist who was a former altar boy told me he realised something was amiss when he saw behind the curtain. "Holy Water" ni maji ya tap, Eucharist just a wafer, nothing magical happens when your open the tabernacle, etc. Keep questioning. In this case, what would be the next question?
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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I thought you endorsed similar unrealistic criticisism of the Pope right here! Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Ngalaka wrote:I thought you endorsed similar unrealistic criticisism of the Pope right here! I said pope is a joke,it seems he has a companion in Maiyo If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Waaah. That was embarrassing. Why did the Pope do that?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/15/2015 Posts: 681 Location: Kenya
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hardwood wrote:Waaah. That was embarrassing. Why did the Pope do that?
He was quite hsrsh on the guy at 0.04 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Thitifini wrote:hardwood wrote:Waaah. That was embarrassing. Why did the Pope do that?
He was quite hsrsh on the guy at 0.04 I have a friend who literally worships this guy. When Pope was around, he slept at the UoN grounds and when i joked about the whole thin, he didn't take it lightly. He should watch this clip. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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