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Swenani wrote:essyk wrote:Swenani wrote:I can't believe this is what guys go through. A friend I know got a passport renewed within a record 3 hrs after paying facilitation fee of 5K.
If you think your productive hr/hrs are less than 5k, keep on queuing A Bribe in other words.So your friend is corrupt.And that excuse doesn't hold any water because they are the people who mess up systems/processes and come complaining later. Sweet pie, why are you behaving as if you just landed from mars aboard Mars rover? corruption and kenya is synonymous an it's our culture. Be patriotic and own the Kenyan culture. Corruption, Proudly perfected in Kenya. @essyk is right. People mess up systems then complain of corruption. If no one paid a bribe everyone would get efficient services. But when public servants get used to bribes they complicate matters until you give them kitu kidogo. Applying for a passport should be a straight forward matter taking a few minutes, not someone queuing at 5am for 2 days just to fill a form. I was impressed when i went to some huduma centre for NHIF biometric registration and the process took about 10 minutes from the moment i walked into the centre.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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hardwood wrote:Swenani wrote:essyk wrote:Swenani wrote:I can't believe this is what guys go through. A friend I know got a passport renewed within a record 3 hrs after paying facilitation fee of 5K.
If you think your productive hr/hrs are less than 5k, keep on queuing A Bribe in other words.So your friend is corrupt.And that excuse doesn't hold any water because they are the people who mess up systems/processes and come complaining later. Sweet pie, why are you behaving as if you just landed from mars aboard Mars rover? corruption and kenya is synonymous an it's our culture. Be patriotic and own the Kenyan culture. Corruption, Proudly perfected in Kenya. @essyk is right. People mess up systems then complain of corruption. If no one paid a bribe everyone would get efficient services. But when public servants get used to bribes they complicate matters until you give them kitu kidogo. Applying for a passport should be a straight forward matter taking a few minutes, not someone queuing at 5am for 2 days just to fill a form. I was impressed when i went to some huduma centre for NHIF biometric registration and the process took about 10 minutes from the moment i walked into the centre. One thing that leads to bribing is the classic kenyan last minute rush, I always renew my Passport or any other document well before I need it, I always go one or two weeks from the date they said to go pick it up and I have never had to bribe anyone, when they sense your urgency sasa huwa maringo and extortion not even bribing To Each His Own
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/15/2010 Posts: 455 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:essyk wrote:Swenani wrote:I can't believe this is what guys go through. A friend I know got a passport renewed within a record 3 hrs after paying facilitation fee of 5K.
If you think your productive hr/hrs are less than 5k, keep on queuing A Bribe in other words.So your friend is corrupt.And that excuse doesn't hold any water because they are the people who mess up systems/processes and come complaining later. Sweet pie, why are you behaving as if you just landed from mars aboard Mars rover? corruption and kenya is synonymous an it's our culture. Be patriotic and own the Kenyan culture. Corruption, Proudly perfected in Kenya. Let's be real, no one would like to 'kutoa kitu kidogo' to get government service if the system is reliable and efficient. This thread reminds me of a friend who refused to 'cooperate' with traffic officer and part-away with 2k only for him to end up in court where the prosecutor was asking for 5k to 'end' the case inside the court room and in full glare of resident magistrate. In the end, all officers were furious with the guy, due to his 'stubbornness' he earned himself a fine of 30k after wasting 2 days following 'due-process' for a trumped-up traffic offence he did not commit. The entire system is so corrupt and the sooner we accept it the better because it is the only way we can genuinely start working toward eliminating this monster. ....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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tinker wrote:Swenani wrote:essyk wrote:Swenani wrote:I can't believe this is what guys go through. A friend I know got a passport renewed within a record 3 hrs after paying facilitation fee of 5K.
If you think your productive hr/hrs are less than 5k, keep on queuing A Bribe in other words.So your friend is corrupt.And that excuse doesn't hold any water because they are the people who mess up systems/processes and come complaining later. Sweet pie, why are you behaving as if you just landed from mars aboard Mars rover? corruption and kenya is synonymous an it's our culture. Be patriotic and own the Kenyan culture. Corruption, Proudly perfected in Kenya. Let's be real, no one would like to 'kutoa kitu kidogo' to get government service if the system is reliable and efficient. This thread reminds me of a friend who refused to 'cooperate' with traffic officer and part-away with 2k only for him to end up in court where the prosecutor was asking for 5k to 'end' the case inside the court room and in full glare of resident magistrate. In the end, all officers were furious with the guy, due to his 'stubbornness' he earned himself a fine of 30k after wasting 2 days following 'due-process' for a trumped-up traffic offence he did not commit. The entire system is so corrupt and the sooner we accept it the better because it is the only way we can genuinely start working toward eliminating this monster. How comes. Kenya is a God fearing country with statistics placing it among the most religious work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Tokyo wrote:tinker wrote:Swenani wrote:essyk wrote:Swenani wrote:I can't believe this is what guys go through. A friend I know got a passport renewed within a record 3 hrs after paying facilitation fee of 5K.
If you think your productive hr/hrs are less than 5k, keep on queuing A Bribe in other words.So your friend is corrupt.And that excuse doesn't hold any water because they are the people who mess up systems/processes and come complaining later. Sweet pie, why are you behaving as if you just landed from mars aboard Mars rover? corruption and kenya is synonymous an it's our culture. Be patriotic and own the Kenyan culture. Corruption, Proudly perfected in Kenya. Let's be real, no one would like to 'kutoa kitu kidogo' to get government service if the system is reliable and efficient. This thread reminds me of a friend who refused to 'cooperate' with traffic officer and part-away with 2k only for him to end up in court where the prosecutor was asking for 5k to 'end' the case inside the court room and in full glare of resident magistrate. In the end, all officers were furious with the guy, due to his 'stubbornness' he earned himself a fine of 30k after wasting 2 days following 'due-process' for a trumped-up traffic offence he did not commit. The entire system is so corrupt and the sooner we accept it the better because it is the only way we can genuinely start working toward eliminating this monster. How comes. Kenya is a God fearing country with statistics placing it among the most religious Religious people are the most effed up.... Those taking the facilitation fee are most likely the first ones in church and hold leadership positions huko kwa hekalu.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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tinker wrote:Swenani wrote:essyk wrote:Swenani wrote:I can't believe this is what guys go through. A friend I know got a passport renewed within a record 3 hrs after paying facilitation fee of 5K.
If you think your productive hr/hrs are less than 5k, keep on queuing A Bribe in other words.So your friend is corrupt.And that excuse doesn't hold any water because they are the people who mess up systems/processes and come complaining later. Sweet pie, why are you behaving as if you just landed from mars aboard Mars rover? corruption and kenya is synonymous an it's our culture. Be patriotic and own the Kenyan culture. Corruption, Proudly perfected in Kenya. Let's be real, no one would like to 'kutoa kitu kidogo' to get government service if the system is reliable and efficient. This thread reminds me of a friend who refused to 'cooperate' with traffic officer and part-away with 2k only for him to end up in court where the prosecutor was asking for 5k to 'end' the case inside the court room and in full glare of resident magistrate. In the end, all officers were furious with the guy, due to his 'stubbornness' he earned himself a fine of 30k after wasting 2 days following 'due-process' for a trumped-up traffic offence he did not commit. The entire system is so corrupt and the sooner we accept it the better because it is the only way we can genuinely start working toward eliminating this monster. A buddy of mine is fighting a speeding charge... It has become so big. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,505 Location: Uganda
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a sh*thole country where nothing gets done without bribing or making noise. few kenyans will see heaven or even smell heaven.rotten system and society we have.whenever I see a big car or a nice house I have now been conditioned to think of it being fruits of illegal proceeds until proved otherwise. is there any hope of things getting done right in this country? punda amecheka
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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maka wrote:tinker wrote:Swenani wrote:essyk wrote:Swenani wrote:I can't believe this is what guys go through. A friend I know got a passport renewed within a record 3 hrs after paying facilitation fee of 5K.
If you think your productive hr/hrs are less than 5k, keep on queuing A Bribe in other words.So your friend is corrupt.And that excuse doesn't hold any water because they are the people who mess up systems/processes and come complaining later. Sweet pie, why are you behaving as if you just landed from mars aboard Mars rover? corruption and kenya is synonymous an it's our culture. Be patriotic and own the Kenyan culture. Corruption, Proudly perfected in Kenya. Let's be real, no one would like to 'kutoa kitu kidogo' to get government service if the system is reliable and efficient. This thread reminds me of a friend who refused to 'cooperate' with traffic officer and part-away with 2k only for him to end up in court where the prosecutor was asking for 5k to 'end' the case inside the court room and in full glare of resident magistrate. In the end, all officers were furious with the guy, due to his 'stubbornness' he earned himself a fine of 30k after wasting 2 days following 'due-process' for a trumped-up traffic offence he did not commit. The entire system is so corrupt and the sooner we accept it the better because it is the only way we can genuinely start working toward eliminating this monster. A buddy of mine is fighting a speeding charge... It has become so big. Kama angekua mpole achote 3k, hangekua na hii shida. I learnt my lesson in 2014 when I tried following the due process when I was arrested for DUI. On each of those three occasions, I ended up wasting one full day and paying fines varying from 30K-40K. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Swenani wrote:maka wrote:tinker wrote:Swenani wrote:essyk wrote:Swenani wrote:I can't believe this is what guys go through. A friend I know got a passport renewed within a record 3 hrs after paying facilitation fee of 5K.
If you think your productive hr/hrs are less than 5k, keep on queuing A Bribe in other words.So your friend is corrupt.And that excuse doesn't hold any water because they are the people who mess up systems/processes and come complaining later. Sweet pie, why are you behaving as if you just landed from mars aboard Mars rover? corruption and kenya is synonymous an it's our culture. Be patriotic and own the Kenyan culture. Corruption, Proudly perfected in Kenya. Let's be real, no one would like to 'kutoa kitu kidogo' to get government service if the system is reliable and efficient. This thread reminds me of a friend who refused to 'cooperate' with traffic officer and part-away with 2k only for him to end up in court where the prosecutor was asking for 5k to 'end' the case inside the court room and in full glare of resident magistrate. In the end, all officers were furious with the guy, due to his 'stubbornness' he earned himself a fine of 30k after wasting 2 days following 'due-process' for a trumped-up traffic offence he did not commit. The entire system is so corrupt and the sooner we accept it the better because it is the only way we can genuinely start working toward eliminating this monster. A buddy of mine is fighting a speeding charge... It has become so big. Kama angekua mpole achote 3k, hangekua na hii shida. I learnt my lesson in 2014 when I tried following the due process when I was arrested for DUI. On each of those three occasions, I ended up wasting one full day and paying fines varying from 30K-40K. As a citizen you did an excellent job for your country and it's future by refusing to pay a bribe. If everyone refused to pay a bribe and followed due process, corruption would be stamped out. Yes it will be painful and expensive to an individual but ultimately we will have a great corruption free country, where our kids wont have to be subjected to the vice.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,936
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hardwood wrote:Swenani wrote:maka wrote:tinker wrote:Swenani wrote:essyk wrote:Swenani wrote:I can't believe this is what guys go through. A friend I know got a passport renewed within a record 3 hrs after paying facilitation fee of 5K.
If you think your productive hr/hrs are less than 5k, keep on queuing A Bribe in other words.So your friend is corrupt.And that excuse doesn't hold any water because they are the people who mess up systems/processes and come complaining later. Sweet pie, why are you behaving as if you just landed from mars aboard Mars rover? corruption and kenya is synonymous an it's our culture. Be patriotic and own the Kenyan culture. Corruption, Proudly perfected in Kenya. Let's be real, no one would like to 'kutoa kitu kidogo' to get government service if the system is reliable and efficient. This thread reminds me of a friend who refused to 'cooperate' with traffic officer and part-away with 2k only for him to end up in court where the prosecutor was asking for 5k to 'end' the case inside the court room and in full glare of resident magistrate. In the end, all officers were furious with the guy, due to his 'stubbornness' he earned himself a fine of 30k after wasting 2 days following 'due-process' for a trumped-up traffic offence he did not commit. The entire system is so corrupt and the sooner we accept it the better because it is the only way we can genuinely start working toward eliminating this monster. A buddy of mine is fighting a speeding charge... It has become so big. Kama angekua mpole achote 3k, hangekua na hii shida. I learnt my lesson in 2014 when I tried following the due process when I was arrested for DUI. On each of those three occasions, I ended up wasting one full day and paying fines varying from 30K-40K. As a citizen you did an excellent job for your country and it's future by refusing to pay a bribe. If everyone refused to pay a bribe and followed due process, corruption would be stamped out. Yes it will be painful and expensive to an individual but ultimately we will have a great corruption free country, where our kids wont have to be subjected to the vice. The crazy thing is that you refuse to pay and it is painful. Then you realize you are the only one trying to bear the pain for the country and say what the hell, let me sort myself out. My kids .... will sort out themselves. Kenya sio yangu, ni yetu. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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