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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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segemia wrote:I am not always anti-Alphdoti @segemia, I can see you're an expert in Photoshop. Brother, don't impersonate in pictures. Speak up. I know you personally. If you want details, let me know.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Mo wrote:@alpha, enough with the spins, can you now answer @symbols question without quoting the bible? ie can you please answer the question from what the koran teaches? symbols wrote:
1.Verse 5:33 specifies two things: waging war and corruption/mischief.
a.Waging war - Does this apply to those you call the "enemies of Islam"?
b.Corruption/mischief - From verses 7:103 and 7:127,mischief and corruption can be defined as rejecting Islam or actions that cause a Muslim to abandon Allah.
Imprisonment is not part of the 'punishment' included in the verse.To repent in verse 5:34 means converting to Islam!
2.Verse 2:256 says there is no compulsion in religion but verse 3:85 says no other religion will be accepted except Islam.
What you are quoting is verse 9:74 and repentance means converting to Islam! Verse 9:73 abrogates verses 2:256 and 3:85 and it is offensive in nature.
The Quran abrogates previous scriptures e.g. Jesus' message of love your enemy is to be substituted with Muhammad's messages.Quoting the Bible which the Quran considers to be corrupted and abrogated is illogical and irrelevant to this discussion.
In short,I am asking you to show the Quran teaches peace.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Even Sister sometimes takes swipes at Alphdoti.
Why not you, o you who haven't?
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2009 Posts: 658
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AlphDoti wrote:segemia wrote:I am not always anti-Alphdoti @segemia, I can see you're an expert in Photoshop. Brother, don't impersonate in pictures. Speak up. I know you personally. If you want details, let me know. Hi brother @Alphdoti. I am back!! Not for a bare knuckle fight but truce. Now where do I begin? Oh yes, you are not Al-phadoti, but Alphdoti, see, these are two different personalities! You are not a wazuan muslim scholar, but a wazuan muslim blogger. Also you are not of the class who go round making some unintelligible utterances. So don't get all riled up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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I do not believe @Alph is the problem. This was prophesied by an Angel of the Lord in Genesis 16:11-12. You see Alph is a spiritual son of Ishmael and Genesis describes what Ismael will be which also applies to his spiritual children '' He will be a wild ass of a man, and his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand will be against him'' If this does not describe Alph, then I do not know what does. No matusi meant @Alph, just quoting scripture. Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/15/2015 Posts: 681 Location: Kenya
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Alphadoti.
60% Learning, 30% synthesizing, 10% Debating
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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segemia wrote:AlphDoti wrote:segemia wrote:I am not always anti-Alphdoti @segemia, I can see you're an expert in Photoshop. Brother, don't impersonate in pictures. Speak up. I know you personally. If you want details, let me know. Hi brother @Alphdoti. I am back!! Not for a bare knuckle fight but truce. Now where do I begin? Oh yes, you are not Al-phadoti, but Alphdoti, see, these are two different personalities! You are not a wazuan muslim scholar, but a wazuan muslim blogger. Also you are not of the class who go round making some unintelligible utterances. So don't get all riled up. Peace bro!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Robinhood wrote:I do not believe @Alph is the problem. This was prophesied by an Angel of the Lord in Genesis 16:11-12. You see Alph is a spiritual son of Ishmael and Genesis describes what Ismael will be which also applies to his spiritual children
'' He will be a wild ass of a man, and his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand will be against him''
If this does not describe Alph, then I do not know what does.
No matusi meant @Alph, just quoting scripture.
Shauri yako! Last time I quoted those words, as referenced by @Guru, our Muslim blogger was not amused.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Mukiri wrote:Robinhood wrote:I do not believe @Alph is the problem. This was prophesied by an Angel of the Lord in Genesis 16:11-12. You see Alph is a spiritual son of Ishmael and Genesis describes what Ismael will be which also applies to his spiritual children
'' He will be a wild ass of a man, and his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand will be against him''
If this does not describe Alph, then I do not know what does.
No matusi meant @Alph, just quoting scripture. Shauri yako! Last time I quoted those words, as referenced by @Guru, our Muslim blogger was not amused. @mukiri, @robinhood, this is an opportunity to expose the liars of the NIV Bible!The translators of NIV Bible purposely lied and shamelessly inserted words in Genesis 16:11-12! Look at the text: Genesis 16:11 " And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction." Genesis 16:12 " And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren." See how much the NIV Bible translators are rude and liars! The King James Version Bible says Ishmael will be a " wild man", and they changed it to "wild donkey of a man" in the NIV Bible. The King James Version Bible says " he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren", they changed this to "hostility" among his brethrens in NIV Bible  This is how Bible translators successfully deceived you @robinhood by inserting words that did not exist in the original documents! That is why you hate @alphdoti for nothing!I took a picture of the verse from my copy of KJV at home:
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Mo wrote:@alpha, enough with the spins, can you now answer @symbols question without quoting the bible? ie can you please answer the question from what the koran teaches? symbols wrote:
1.Verse 5:33 specifies two things: waging war and corruption/mischief.
a.Waging war - Does this apply to those you call the "enemies of Islam"?
b.Corruption/mischief - From verses 7:103 and 7:127,mischief and corruption can be defined as rejecting Islam or actions that cause a Muslim to abandon Allah.
Imprisonment is not part of the 'punishment' included in the verse.To repent in verse 5:34 means converting to Islam!
2.Verse 2:256 says there is no compulsion in religion but verse 3:85 says no other religion will be accepted except Islam.
What you are quoting is verse 9:74 and repentance means converting to Islam! Verse 9:73 abrogates verses 2:256 and 3:85 and it is offensive in nature.
The Quran abrogates previous scriptures e.g. Jesus' message of love your enemy is to be substituted with Muhammad's messages.Quoting the Bible which the Quran considers to be corrupted and abrogated is illogical and irrelevant to this discussion.
In short,I am asking you to show the Quran teaches peace.
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