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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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faa wrote:To me,in this life ,there is no one who cares about you except your mother....and maybe your wife if you are lucky
Africa ought to pull out of ICC. Bensouda is an african,yet he behaves like a mzungu.
Let Uhuruto rule without those ICC shiety charges..
coz even if uhuruto are convicted who will it help and we elected them as the prezzzooo and dp of kenya..
some people only think when the mzungu ruber stamps, otherwise if its not as per the white man rules its not good
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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KulaRaha wrote:And we blame the West for our problems...when the problem is just our little minds... Very insightful, I agree with you
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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aemathenge wrote:masukuma wrote:this is ......AFRICANS. Next time you want to post something this long, you might want to have a look and adopt Neophyte Bogz's editing style. For why spend so much time on a post that few or none will read? well..Keyboard ni yangu na Story ni yangu... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Remind me, how did these two chaps end up at the Hague? Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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KulaRaha wrote:Remind me, how did these two chaps end up at the Hague? Heshima si utumwa
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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nakujua wrote:KulaRaha wrote:And we blame the West for our problems...when the problem is just our little minds... Very insightful, I agree with you its about time that we understood that WE ARE IN THIS ALONE. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/26/2011 Posts: 759
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Magigi wrote:Kratos wrote:Rollout wrote:Magigi wrote:@McReggae
For me I don't even see why the cases should be there in the first place. The very fact that majority of those affected voted in favor of the accused means they had forgiven them...Ni nyinyi mnawashwa...Wao wako poa. If they took time to think and still thought crimes were committed against them, they would have voted differently. How can the accused be the judge? Let us stop this wastage of funds of commuting to and fro Hague and instead see how school children will be provided with laptops.
...Swala nyeti...Hoping that the case will be concluded in the next 8 or so years (Uhuru will still be the president before he hands over to Ruto!!!...No sitting President in Africa has ever lost an election...And we don't want Kenya to be the first example!)and he is given whatever sentence, do yo think he will take a flight the next day and present himself in Hague to start serving that sentence? Go tell that to the birds!!!.
...I fully support the African union in calling for the termination of this nonsense! Are you serious? You really don't think justice system is run like a village court do you? The civilized court system is different brother..... APPLAUSE APPLAUSE!! Civility indeed! Bro... The traditional justice system is still used and very much recognized the world over. For example, mato oput, which in the Acholi language literally means “to drink a bitter potion made from the leaves of the ‘oput’ tree,” is one of the mechanisms for forgiveness and reconciliation among the Acholi people in Northern Uganda. The drinking of this bitter herb means that the two conflicting parties accept the bitterness of the past and promise never to taste such bitterness again. The payment of compensation follows the ceremony. ...Bro, read some more about peace and conflict management systems. If the communities affected feel they they can forgive and move on, there is nothing the international system can do. Hahahahah! This is exactly what I was thinking about you, bringing a conflict resolution from a small village in Uganda to illustrate your line of thinking capture how shallow your mind is. In legal system, it doesn't matter if you been forgiven, you still have to face the law.. We are not talking about village law here.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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I like President UK, but if memory serves me well.. though I do confess I have a short one, with enough slip ups..
But I do seem to remember something like.. 'the hague is a personal issue...'
Or personal in this case means he's got enough clout to pull in peers who happen to be presidents.. the entire Africa.. and UN security council.. ambassadors... etc?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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@rollout...no problem. Thank you.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/12/2010 Posts: 474 Location: Nairobi
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As long as Raila and Nyóngó are not among the suspects, the international courts will be seen by people like ME as biased. Keep it simple
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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richdad wrote:As long as Raila and Nyóngó are not among the suspects, the international courts will be seen by people like ME as biased. ditto! add some warlords like jackson kibor to that list. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 677 Location: Nairobi
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poundfoolish wrote:I like President UK, but if memory serves me well.. though I do confess I have a short one, with enough slip ups..
But I do seem to remember something like.. 'the hague is a personal issue...'
Or personal in this case means he's got enough clout to pull in peers who happen to be presidents.. the entire Africa.. and UN security council.. ambassadors... etc? That is why the election had to be won. No two ways about it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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are we really sincere? are our arguments being made for arguments sake - so that we can score some points against those of an opposing team? do we really care? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:are we really sincere? are our arguments being made for arguments sake - so that we can score some points against those of an opposing team? do we really care? I for one do really care some of my relatives were displaed,my old man waz in the thick of thingz travelling to Nai and its only through Gods grace he safely passed the road blocks on the roads at various places...most people probably werent affected thats why they can loosely engage in some oralorrhea..justice is a far fetched notion it may never come through even from the ICC but atleast something should be done go through a trial if you are found clean well and good if you are found guilty get punished for your misdeeds...for how long will impunity reign?for how long will those who have trample on the have nots? possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:masukuma wrote:are we really sincere? are our arguments being made for arguments sake - so that we can score some points against those of an opposing team? do we really care? I for one do really care some of my relatives were displaed,my old man waz in the thick of thingz travelling to Nai and its only through Gods grace he safely passed the road blocks on the roads at various places...most people probably werent affected thats why they can loosely engage in some oralorrhea..justice is a far fetched notion it may never come through even from the ICC but atleast something should be done go through a trial if you are found clean well and good if you are found guilty get punished for your misdeeds...for how long will impunity reign?for how long will those who have trample on the have nots? boss, same case here - my famo was affected in both 97 and 2007. we lost property but my relatives lives were spared. the reason I continue to state that this whole debate has taken a tangent and become a pissing competition is because the people who did the things like this  are know by their victims themselves but we have decided that that is not good enough nor an important link to follow (why? perhaps because its not good political fodder). I have also witnessed people sharing links (almost gloating while doing it) to the effect that Kenya has a shortfall in our budget - its like they will be spared when prices of things go us and its like 'we told you so - choices have consequences' will be legal tender... MBOSS WE ARE IN IT TOGETHER. the sooner we stop relying on the east or west for sustenance the better. As I said before most of those guys cannot tell the difference between A kalenjin, a luo, a kikuyu or kamba - you are just nywele ngumu black folk! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:maka wrote:masukuma wrote:are we really sincere? are our arguments being made for arguments sake - so that we can score some points against those of an opposing team? do we really care? I for one do really care some of my relatives were displaed,my old man waz in the thick of thingz travelling to Nai and its only through Gods grace he safely passed the road blocks on the roads at various places...most people probably werent affected thats why they can loosely engage in some oralorrhea..justice is a far fetched notion it may never come through even from the ICC but atleast something should be done go through a trial if you are found clean well and good if you are found guilty get punished for your misdeeds...for how long will impunity reign?for how long will those who have trample on the have nots? boss, same case here - my famo was affected in both 97 and 2007. we lost property but my relatives lives were spared. the reason I continue to state that this whole debate has taken a tangent and become a pissing competition is because the people who did the things like this are know by their victims themselves but we have decided that that is not good enough nor an important link to follow (why? perhaps because its not good political fodder). I have also witnessed people sharing links (almost gloating while doing it) to the effect that Kenya has a shortfall in our budget - its like they will be spared when prices of things go us and its like 'we told you so - choices have consequences' will be legal tender... MBOSS WE ARE IN IT TOGETHER. the sooner we stop relying on the east or west for sustenance the better. As I said before most of those guys cannot tell the difference between A kalenjin, a luo, a kikuyu or kamba - you are just nywele ngumu black folk! I hear you...we are hard headed individuals I seriously dont know what will ever change us. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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nakujua wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Remind me, how did these two chaps end up at the Hague? Heshima si utumwa Pole, was not meant to be derogatory in any way...let me rephrase, how did the two Gentlemen end up at the Hague? Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:masukuma wrote:maka wrote:masukuma wrote:are we really sincere? are our arguments being made for arguments sake - so that we can score some points against those of an opposing team? do we really care? I for one do really care some of my relatives were displaed,my old man waz in the thick of thingz travelling to Nai and its only through Gods grace he safely passed the road blocks on the roads at various places...most people probably werent affected thats why they can loosely engage in some oralorrhea..justice is a far fetched notion it may never come through even from the ICC but atleast something should be done go through a trial if you are found clean well and good if you are found guilty get punished for your misdeeds...for how long will impunity reign?for how long will those who have trample on the have nots? boss, same case here - my famo was affected in both 97 and 2007. we lost property but my relatives lives were spared. the reason I continue to state that this whole debate has taken a tangent and become a pissing competition is because the people who did the things like this are know by their victims themselves but we have decided that that is not good enough nor an important link to follow (why? perhaps because its not good political fodder). I have also witnessed people sharing links (almost gloating while doing it) to the effect that Kenya has a shortfall in our budget - its like they will be spared when prices of things go us and its like 'we told you so - choices have consequences' will be legal tender... MBOSS WE ARE IN IT TOGETHER. the sooner we stop relying on the east or west for sustenance the better. As I said before most of those guys cannot tell the difference between A kalenjin, a luo, a kikuyu or kamba - you are just nywele ngumu black folk! I hear you...we are hard headed individuals I seriously dont know what will ever change us. We need to come to the realization that 'we are in it together' - no one cares about us, they want our stuff! bei ya mafuta ikiongezeka inaongezeka kila mtu hapa - no one will be spared... it will not hurt the chinese or the westerners but rather the two camps that are cheering them on. Place yourself as an outsider to all this, someone who is being introduced to this whole conversation - say a person of the Inuit descent (that is Eskimo). this whole drama is a sorry, pathetic drama. We are arguing about who to borrow (enslave ourselves to) - oh the west...oh the east.... We are pathetic! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:maka wrote:masukuma wrote:maka wrote:masukuma wrote:are we really sincere? are our arguments being made for arguments sake - so that we can score some points against those of an opposing team? do we really care? I for one do really care some of my relatives were displaed,my old man waz in the thick of thingz travelling to Nai and its only through Gods grace he safely passed the road blocks on the roads at various places...most people probably werent affected thats why they can loosely engage in some oralorrhea..justice is a far fetched notion it may never come through even from the ICC but atleast something should be done go through a trial if you are found clean well and good if you are found guilty get punished for your misdeeds...for how long will impunity reign?for how long will those who have trample on the have nots? boss, same case here - my famo was affected in both 97 and 2007. we lost property but my relatives lives were spared. the reason I continue to state that this whole debate has taken a tangent and become a pissing competition is because the people who did the things like this are know by their victims themselves but we have decided that that is not good enough nor an important link to follow (why? perhaps because its not good political fodder). I have also witnessed people sharing links (almost gloating while doing it) to the effect that Kenya has a shortfall in our budget - its like they will be spared when prices of things go us and its like 'we told you so - choices have consequences' will be legal tender... MBOSS WE ARE IN IT TOGETHER. the sooner we stop relying on the east or west for sustenance the better. As I said before most of those guys cannot tell the difference between A kalenjin, a luo, a kikuyu or kamba - you are just nywele ngumu black folk! I hear you...we are hard headed individuals I seriously dont know what will ever change us. We need to come to the realization that 'we are in it together' - no one cares about us, they want our stuff! Ditto!! On another note, is M7 genuine in his recent statements? me thinks he'll be the happiest if our economy is to go down south because of these ICC cases...
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