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tycho		#61 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 12:16:21 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		Tis threefold painful, if bliss is perceived.
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symbols		#62 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 12:19:26 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552		tycho wrote: Tis threefold painful, if bliss is perceived. What isn't perceived?
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tycho		#63 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 12:23:36 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		symbols wrote: tycho wrote: Tis threefold painful, if bliss is perceived. What isn't perceived? Whatever that is beyond the perceiver.
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symbols		#64 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 12:32:12 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552		tycho wrote: symbols wrote: tycho wrote: Tis threefold painful, if bliss is perceived. What isn't perceived? Whatever that is beyond the perceiver. How then does one establish what is beyond perception if one can't perceive it?
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tycho		#65 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 12:40:25 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		symbols wrote: tycho wrote: symbols wrote: tycho wrote: Tis threefold painful, if bliss is perceived. What isn't perceived? Whatever that is beyond the perceiver. How then does one establish what is beyond perception if one can't perceive it? If you can't. You can't. But what if you think you can't, but in fact you can?
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symbols		#66 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:01:24 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552		tycho wrote: symbols wrote: tycho wrote: symbols wrote: tycho wrote: Tis threefold painful, if bliss is perceived. What isn't perceived? Whatever that is beyond the perceiver. How then does one establish what is beyond perception if one can't perceive it? If you can't. You can't. But what if you think you can't, but in fact you can? What if?You still remain capable.If you can,you can.
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tycho		#67 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:38:43 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		symbols wrote: tycho wrote: symbols wrote: tycho wrote: symbols wrote: tycho wrote: Tis threefold painful, if bliss is perceived. What isn't perceived? Whatever that is beyond the perceiver. How then does one establish what is beyond perception if one can't perceive it? If you can't. You can't. But what if you think you can't, but in fact you can? What if?You still remain capable.If you can,you can. So perceiving is a function of willing.
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symbols		#68 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:42:31 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552		tycho wrote: symbols wrote: tycho wrote: symbols wrote: tycho wrote: symbols wrote: tycho wrote: Tis threefold painful, if bliss is perceived. What isn't perceived? Whatever that is beyond the perceiver. How then does one establish what is beyond perception if one can't perceive it? If you can't. You can't. But what if you think you can't, but in fact you can? What if?You still remain capable.If you can,you can. So perceiving is a function of willing. In what way?
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tycho		#69 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 2:24:24 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		symbols wrote: tycho wrote: symbols wrote: tycho wrote: symbols wrote: tycho wrote: symbols wrote: tycho wrote: Tis threefold painful, if bliss is perceived. What isn't perceived? Whatever that is beyond the perceiver. How then does one establish what is beyond perception if one can't perceive it? If you can't. You can't. But what if you think you can't, but in fact you can? What if?You still remain capable.If you can,you can. So perceiving is a function of willing. In what way? If you think you can't, when you really can, then all you have to do is will to become. So perceiveing is an event or element in an infinite set of interlinked elements. Changing one is changing all the others.
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symbols		#70 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2013 2:35:08 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552		tycho wrote: symbols wrote: tycho wrote: symbols wrote: tycho wrote: symbols wrote: tycho wrote: symbols wrote: tycho wrote: Tis threefold painful, if bliss is perceived. What isn't perceived? Whatever that is beyond the perceiver. How then does one establish what is beyond perception if one can't perceive it? If you can't. You can't. But what if you think you can't, but in fact you can? What if?You still remain capable.If you can,you can. So perceiving is a function of willing. In what way? If you think you can't, when you really can, then all you have to do is will to become. So perceiveing is an event or element in an infinite set of interlinked elements. Changing one is changing all the others. To will yourself into something you think impossible? Does perceiving perception change perception?
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