How can you prove something that doesn't exist. To prove, you have to show.

And how can you show an illusion that another illusion exists or doesn't exist; and consequently 'ask' if the illusion believes in the illusion?

I think you are taking this Illusionist business too far!

But if by 'real' you mean 'significant', then of course illusions are real. But so is reality real!

I would like to agree with you here. But I am afraid only up to a point.

When you speak of Energy flows, I assume you are implying that teleportation is about moving stuff from one place to the other.

Allow me to disagree. There is no moving stuff if there is no space or time.

In my opinion teleportation is about willing a differently configured reality around you, or the object you wish to 'teleport.'

It also requires a congruence of perception, shared frequency signatures of the willed reality, otherwise the 'other' would not perceive your teleported self or object.

We do this all the time - when we imagine, dream, miss someone etc. It becomes memorable only when we receive validation that we actually teleported.

I understand some people can do this at will.

Here is an experiment in teleportation: "I have several different objects on the table where I am writing this. At least one of these items will give you an idea of my location. Can you 'guess' where where I am?' A single letter will do."

Energy is 'stuff'. Frequency is motion of stuff.

And, how can there be different 'things' on a table without motion?

Fair enough. You insist that God exists.

Show me.

@tycho - How is a perceptual system supposed to work? Two ways I view teleportation.First one would be to transfer matter from one place to another. Second one would be to convert matter in another place to replicate the matter of the object.Basically a photocopy.

@Wakanyugi - The limits of imagination are based on knowledge and knowledge is based on perception.

I don't like bringing Christianity into issues.I prefer my actions speak for themselves.But on that note,I know that God exists.Its not up for me to prove to others that He does,its up to others to find out,if they want.Heaven and hell begins here on earth. Illusion is a part of reality not the whole of reality.

@ChessMaster, the perceptual system is the control mechanism of a given energy system which is always in pursuit of equilibrium.

That is, the perceptual system is a measure of difference between the ideal state of equilibrium and 'present' conditions, and the homeostatic resultant.

Perception is the energic interchanges of form and matter, at various energy levels. Thus frequency range differentiation is not only possible, but a reality in itself.

About teleporting. Both methods are correct and even the same in essence. This becomes easier to understand when you consider how we can use the 'Evernet' idea to teleport. One just has to wear a helmet to transfer neurological information to his digital image. The teleportation is complete if smart devices can transfer sights and scents and other sensible qualities. So matter is both transferred and copied.

Yes Numerology is not only interesting but true. We can be sure of this because numbers are symbols.

Reality and truth. Illusions are indeed part of reality.

But what is illusion? I'd say it is a perceptual experience that corressponds to a past experience, or a perceptual inference made from past experience, but that doesn't present similar relationships like those experienced in the past.

And hence poses challenges to the 'I' concept.

That is, illusions help us to get closer to the truth. Without illusion, there'd be no Science.

Religion can only attain its purposes if it's scientific.

Religious words have meaning, hence truth.

How can one find the truth then? Faith?

Even science rests on faith! And therefore Science is also about the future.

Let us consider some religious words in the context of our conversation:

'Faith comes through hearing the Word'.

That is, faith comes through perception. Perception works to distinguish truth from illusion.

Hence faith comes through science.

I am overwhelmed by the no. of examples I can give.

'You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free'.

Consider what 'believing in the truth' without 'knowing the truth!'

One cannot be free in such a case. His faith will lack action.

How does God account for the perishing of His people?

Look at how other world religions have dealt with science. What can you see?

I see your point.The truth has to be revealed eventually.His people perish for a lack of knowledge,hence science.A machine for generating knowledge.I also agree now,illusions are not bad,just test and confirm.