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#61 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 10:32:19 AM
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mukiha wrote:
Um Sayala wrote:
Very sad indeed. I watched the old man on TV mummer some incoherent words and i thot he'd get heart attack any time.
I u/stand that section of Syoki has had issues since 2004.poleni sana sana.





True; the issue of Syokimau KAA land being grabbed and sold has been going on for many years. My stand is that if I bought some land and there was doubts about its validity later, I wouldn't build anything on it... I would use it to get a loan to buy another plot elsewhere and build.

Some times in life, you cut your losses and move on.

It's a sad matter though.



Banks will never touch such land; not even with a 7ft pole!
Wakandi
#62 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 10:40:11 AM
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Very sad indeed..am not so sure about the dilligence carried out by the lawyers. Wasn't Ahmednassir in court the other day after his law firm okayed a dealworth $50,000 for sale of land in Mogadishu? he was hard pressed to explain what dilligence(if any) they'd carried out..
gathiru
#63 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 10:45:15 AM
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pole sana .I also lost at Balozi in south B after they claimed that the land was owned by Nssf .Something should be done to steamline the systems in kenya including moulding the govt officers to be geniune and GOD fearing .Corrruption is the cause of all this mess due to issuance of fake titles or two titles for a single property.My neighbour collapsed and died and this was due to corruption in Kenya.
Burning Spear
#64 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 10:51:10 AM
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Its sad especially when you see the victims are my age mates ,leaders of tommorow (as wazee regards us).

I believe >90% of the property was through bank loans,mortgage etc and you expect someone to honour the mortgage for the next 15 years without depression,Hypertension etc.

To me the victims should start with LSK,have all the lawyers involved arrested and blacklisted,then move to Ardhi house /survey of kenya included and cause trouble to all who issued the deed plans and titles. Mavoko council should not be spared either.

Otherwise,I support the KAA move because with the structures on the flight path,this poses a security threat to the planes especially this time of fighting the Al shabab.
"You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
Mainat
#65 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 10:58:47 AM
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Empty platitudes aside, provided an owner has the following documents:
An encumbered search form, valuation report, title deed, planning permission from Mavuko or Nairobi Council, they have a high chance of successfully suing the Government
Sehemu ndio nyumba
josiah33
#66 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 11:06:06 AM
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Sure wrote:
tuvok wrote:
I think from this painful experience, it would be nice if wazuans could start collecting maps of all potentially contentious land. Not sure if it is practical but at this rate, we cannot rely on GoK and associated bodies.


Where is Orengo? Or he is part of the problem?

Orengo is surely part of this problem.
addidaskawembe
#67 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 11:07:54 AM
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Burning Spear wrote:
Its sad especially when you see the victims are my age mates ,leaders of tommorow (as wazee regards us).

I believe >90% of the property was through bank loans,mortgage etc and you expect someone to honour the mortgage for the next 15 years without depression,Hypertension etc.

To me the victims should start with LSK,have all the lawyers involved arrested and blacklisted,then move to Ardhi house /survey of kenya included and cause trouble to all who issued the deed plans and titles. Mavoko council should not be spared either.

Otherwise,I support the KAA move because with the structures on the flight path,this poses a security threat to the planes especially this time of fighting the Al shabab.


@Burning Spear, the laywers are not the problem, this thing was well orchestrated.

The plots had titles, Min of Lands okayed the deal, Mavoko gave a clean bill, the maps didn't show the plots belonged to KAA infact the plots are physically not inside KAA fence, Surveyors came and said all was OK. Banks that offered loans checked and confirmed the land was genuine before they financed the constructions.

Everyone who did due diligence gave the plots a clean bill until early this year when KAA showed up in the scene and these Mlolongo Brothers started making news as conmen that people realized something was a miss.

NB: No one in his / her right mind can invest 5, 10, 20M e.t.c putting up a house on a suspicious plot.
dossy7
#68 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 11:15:09 AM
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Very sad indeed
Kenya ni yetu sisi sote
josiah33
#69 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 11:38:07 AM
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some people need to take responsibilty.
Swanky2010
#70 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 11:44:55 AM
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GGK wrote:
jamplu wrote:

There was a time around 2004 KAA had a caveat on the land and its unfortunate the sellers waited for things to cool off then resold the land.

What have seen with the land process in kenya don't even trust the lawyers majority of them won't even bother to get the history of the land.


There is some land around Mlolong/Sabaki that belongs to the government Numerical Systems or something* where exactly is their land??


Numerical Machining complex. Check the report on Athi River land issue that was released recently



hi guyz, who has this report?
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