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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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I wouldnt want to be one opposing a policy that benefits the poor, who have no other recourse other than govt help. Those shouting about EQUAL RIGHTS r simply selfish, maybe they wouldnt want the poor kids to get to their level of success....Obi has put it so articulately. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/19/2010 Posts: 98 Location: Kenya
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Guys remember also that in Private schools, there are disparities. YOu cannot compare Light Academy and say a private school in Arthi River. Star shiek for example has alot of poor kids and it had more that 25 kids with above 400. Do you deny these children yet they worked hard to get these grades. Remember also there are public schools in urban centres that are advantaged than many in the rural areas. Can you compare Nairobi Primary with Budalangi primary where a class holds 40 children. Where do you draw the line.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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Just because your kid is in a public school doesn't necessarily mean you're poor. What the govt needs to realize is that ever since the introduction of "Free primary education" (which has assisted so many) the quality of education in public schools has declined. I think the idea by the govt to give priority to public schools in form one selection is good but the execution is very poor.
Who said you have to go through public institutions to succeed in life? I've never been to a private school but that doesn't mean everyone else has to do it "My way".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 2,148 Location: elderville
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Wendz wrote:Lets just say, the only people who will benefit from this set of rules is the headmaster in a certain remote village. Trust me, the rich's kid will never loose out. the poor's kid is disadvantaged here and i am not saying that he/she should be left deep in the woods, no but the current state of affairs will only favour the kids of last sitting... come next year....... people will be beating this shoddy system big time. Remember, the kids in private schools are not necessarily for the rich. My househelp's kids are in a private school in one of the informal settlements and the school is full to capacity.... she'd be more than happy to take her kids in public schools but there are no facilities...
Very right on the Headmaster being a beneficiary in this system and also of the fact that most people have been ignoring in light of this arguement. That not all who go to private schools are rich. There are many private schools in the slums catering for some real poor people. He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/18/2009 Posts: 303
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Wendz wrote:Lets just say, the only people who will benefit from this set of rules is the headmaster in a certain remote village. Trust me, the rich's kid will never loose out. the poor's kid is disadvantaged here and i am not saying that he/she should be left deep in the woods, no but the current state of affairs will only favour the kids of last sitting... come next year....... people will be beating this shoddy system big time. Remember, the kids in private schools are not necessarily for the rich. My househelp's kids are in a private school in one of the informal settlements and the school is full to capacity.... she'd be more than happy to take her kids in public schools but there are no facilities...
Talking to some parents around, they have already started making contacts with the H/Ms of certain schools in view of having their kids register with them then study in private schools and only do the exams there.... Either way, people will definitely have a way of beating the system. dont be surprised that some of the private schools will facilitate those arrangements for parents too... afterall, the parent will have paid school fees in the private school anyway which is their main aim.... Dont rejoice too soon my friends.... The government has to come up with a system that is workable... if not, we are still in the woods.
And by the way, even the children from the rich are entitled to join the National government funded schools..... their parents pay taxes and these schools are funded on the same, right? It is actually their constitutional right. @Wendz  well said so this system will open for corruption and you will find that the top most students in public schools are from private schools but registered in public they will add to the students who did their exams in private schools and so all the students to be admitted in National schools will be from private schools.so THIS IS WIN WIN FOR THE 'RICH'..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/24/2007 Posts: 1,805
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Good People, I still do not see why all the hulabaloo! IMHO, kids go to school to get an education. As a parent, depending on what you understand by "education', you make a choice.Unfortunatley, we have equated education to passing KCPE and KCSE. We forget that the kids more life skills on interaction. We even sent kids to private schools that have no playing fields or order. I was shocked to see an advert outside a residential massionette in Nairobi West saying it has class 1 to 8!! How can a 4 bedroomed house have class 1-8, a hall, aplaying field, officesetc? The only reason any parent would take his/her Kid there is because they cannot afford public school or there is no space in public schools. Why would you want to penalise such a kid? Please allow me to share my take humbly. I too went to Public Schools. However, Public Schools then eqaute to a very small fraction of private schools today as far as quality is concerned. I did most of my learning as I played in the field with friends. I therefore CHOOSE to give my kids an education like the one I had cause it has worked. I choose to teach my kids lifeskills everytime I can. I take them along to some business meetings. I explain to them anything they want to know in the simplest way possible. One thing I know for sure is, when the time comes,they will be ready to take over from me and my generation coz they will have SEEN ME do it. All I need them to get from school is the basics of arithmetic and science. This they can get anywhere, private or public school. But I want them to see order and effecient management as they learn. Believe it or not, that is waht I pay for . I am preparing them to take over leadership in this country, how to run their lives and their companies well. I am not preparing them for EMPLOYMENT. Which is the root cause why theis debate is hot! If I do so, I will perpetuate them into untold frustration once they pass all the tests and realise that they are where I began! I Think Therefore I Am
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/14/2010 Posts: 806 Location: Nairobi
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It is almost becoming a given that for most middle to senior jobs and in some institutions even entry-level jobs one has to have a degree.
If you child goes to a good secondary school, chances of qualifying to go to the public university are high. Your university costs will be LOW and offcourse staggered on your child due to HELB.
If you child does not go to a good secondary school and they will need to be employable, then you might as well start looking for the dough to take them through private universities (regular) or parallel programmes in public. The costs are high.
As for me I would rather they get a good secondary school and avoid the high cost of private university. Period. Am old school.
Without trying to offend some communities. I am also fully aware that some communities do not believe in education as a gateway to careers. So they set-up businesses into which their kids graduate into. I like this model, but the reality check is that most off us prefer the easier route; Go to school, to to university and get a job.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 2,148 Location: elderville
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Article 56 of the Constitution of Kenya: 56. The State shall put in place affirmative action programmes designed to ensure that minorities and marginalised groups— (a) participate and are represented in governance and other spheres of life; (b) are provided special opportunities in educational and economic fields; (c) are provided special opportunities for access to employment; (d) develop their cultural values, languages and practices; and (e) have reasonable access to water, health services and infrastructure. He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/30/2010 Posts: 176
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/30/2009 Posts: 1,390
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I confess I am confused After listening to PS Ole Kiyiapi yesterday, I understood the govt.Private schools account for 14% of the total candidates in KCPE.Thus, they should have a similar proportion intake in the national schools e.g if total slots in national schools are 10000, 8600 should be reserved for public while 1400 be for private Makes sense But I'm afraid we'll end up with two societies: private school societies and public school societies.I attended a national school and I appreciate the 'melting pot' effect of those schools. Ministers and PSs sons were there as were the sons of their watchmen and gardeners.We had guys who had never boarded a matatu while we had others who had no pocket money. At the end of it all,we all appreciated the learning experience and interaction we enjoyed there! Now if we segregate the poor into their schools and the rich into theirs where will such interaction take place? What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
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