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Is Taking a Mortgage the WORST Decision Ever??
mibbz
#681 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2015 12:57:32 PM
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enyands wrote:
mibbz wrote:
Mseto binti wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
dunkang wrote:
TPK wrote:
I took a Kshs 7 Million 15 year plot purchase and construction loan from Kuscco Housing Fund in Jan 2010 at a fixed interest rate of 14% and constructed a 4 br maisonette+SQ within 12 kms of CBD. I was not going to sit and wait for the loan to run the full tenor as I was scared of the interest payments, so I had to make lumpsum prepayments of whatever amounts even 100k.

I just cleared it last month and in total, I have paid slightly over 10 m over the 6 year period. The current selling price of the house is about 14 M. Who says a mortage does not make sense? Just ensure you look for the right financier who will not hike rates any howly and ensure you prepay as much as you can.

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

So, Interest rate is 14% p.a. Principal is KShs. 7,000,000.00 and repayment period is 15 years (or 180 months).

From simple calculation, you are supposed to pay KShs. 93,221.90 every month for 15 years.

When you pay "LUMP SUMS" of KShs. 100,000.00 monthly, you are actually doing nothing.


Very sad @dunkang. This guy is lying to us in broad daylight. For a 7,000,000 loan at a fixed rate of 14%, even if he was paying 100,000 from month one without fail, it would take 12 years to complete the loan. And he is talking about 6 years?? Half the time???

@TPK - If you are trying to prove a fact, don't use lies. Use facts and actual figures. Throwing around figures and the underestimating the payment period by half is not even remotely forgivable. Ile kitu wazuans wanajua sana ni hesabu!!! Kwanza hesabu za pesa!!!

@ Maich black unajua hesabu...nice I need help kuelewa hesabu za maloan! am wondering about my own hesabu in regard to a loan am servicing..tafadhali saidia...(munduzcatgmail.comSad Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray Pray




@Maich et al, TPK gave his real experience. KUSCO gives a Ksh 7 Million loan at 14% p.a resulting in monthly payment of 93,222. You also get the 7 million based on a multiple of 5 times your savings meaning TPK already had approximately 1.4 Million in cash with KUSCO which also earns an annual dividend (5-10%) over the 6 years. Links below on SOP of the loan and pricing.

http://www.kuscco.com/in...php/kuscco-housing-fund

http://www.kuscco.com/in...php/kuscco-housing-fund

While he was non specific on how many lumpsum payments he made over the six years period( I choose to look at the 100K lumpsum payment as just one example),it is quite possible he paid it all in 6 years as follows:

93,222 per month for 6 YEARS = 6,711,984
Using of cash deposit to settle balance= 1,400,00
Lumpsum (extra) payments amounting to = 1,888,016 in 6 years or 314,670 per annum over the six years or 26,223 extra per month over the 6 years (72 months) he took to clear the loan.

PS: I have not included earnings from dividends from the Ksh 1.4 Million saved which would be at least 70k p.a for each of the 6 years (420K in total)

All these are assumptions but TPK demonstrated he did this practically although he chose not to give specifics on the payments.

TPK i salute you for sharing your story on an efficient and smart way to overcome the crazy interest rates and get value for money.



Your math is off sir .check highlighted and reverse please
93222x6 should be 559,332 I don't know where you got 6m



Apologies.It is 6 YEARS. I shall edit the post and correct it. Thanks
mibbz
#682 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2015 1:03:03 PM
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@kimanimsc thank you for using your 1st post to correct the error i made.

All in all this thread highlights it is possible to deploy smart and tactful methodologies in procuring a house/home.

Jon Jones
#683 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 7:45:10 AM
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Taking a mortgage is not the worst decision ever. Taking a mortgage to buy an apartment (where you only own one unit and will continue paying rent under some other name "service charge") and not the land is the worst decision ever. If you MUST take a mortgage,make sure it is for a stand alone townhouse with a valid title deed in your name and ample compound.
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Boris Boyka
#684 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 7:49:59 AM
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Jon Jones wrote:
Taking a mortgage is not the worst decision ever. Taking a mortgage to buy an apartment (where you only own one unit and will continue paying rent under some other name "service charge") and not the land is the worst decision ever. If you MUST take a mortgage,make sure it is for a stand alone townhouse with a valid title deed in your name and ample compound.

...and the mortgage must be fast tracked and finished in avg 5yrs.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
muandiwambeu
#685 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 1:25:58 PM
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A loan is not a windfall gain.it most be paid with interest-and in kenya this not just pennies. You will have to pay until you legs thins out like those of a mosquito. With that loan the bank intends to hook u up with a lifesucking machine and u will be saluted as a fallen hero on ur fall. Paying a loan at interest rates higher than 10% is pure slaverly. So what do you do to survive beyond this scheme. Spread your loan for as long as possible to enjoy lowest possible installments. Then pay as much as you can. Never to pay beyond 6yrs.otherwise Wait for the auction and booked ur space at langata cementry or at the lonely columns.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
muandiwambeu
#686 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 1:28:29 PM
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A loan is not a windfall gain.it most be paid with interest-and in kenya this not just pennies. You will have to pay until you legs thins out like those of a mosquito. With that loan the bank intends to hook u up with a lifesucking machine and u will be saluted as a fallen hero on ur fall. Paying a loan at interest rates higher than 10% is pure slaverly. So what do you do to survive beyond this scheme. Spread your loan for as long as possible to enjoy lowest possible installments. Then pay as much as you can. Never to pay beyond 6yrs.otherwise Wait for the auction and booked ur space at langata cementry or at the lonely columns.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
enyands
#687 Posted : Saturday, November 28, 2015 6:14:50 AM
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muandiwambeu wrote:
A loan is not a windfall gain.it most be paid with interest-and in kenya this not just pennies. You will have to pay until you legs thins out like those of a mosquito. With that loan the bank intends to hook u up with a lifesucking machine and u will be saluted as a fallen hero on ur fall. Paying a loan at interest rates higher than 10% is pure slaverly. So what do you do to survive beyond this scheme. Spread your loan for as long as possible to enjoy lowest possible installments. Then pay as much as you can. Never to pay beyond 6yrs.otherwise Wait for the auction and booked ur space at langata cementry or at the lonely columns.


@muandiwambeu cant agree anymore. Let young people with a duty to feed their ego take these apartment houses. ATI service charge of 20k every month . Dangerous.mbaya sana kabisa
Jon Jones
#688 Posted : Saturday, November 28, 2015 1:31:14 PM
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enyands wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
A loan is not a windfall gain.it most be paid with interest-and in kenya this not just pennies. You will have to pay until you legs thins out like those of a mosquito. With that loan the bank intends to hook u up with a lifesucking machine and u will be saluted as a fallen hero on ur fall. Paying a loan at interest rates higher than 10% is pure slaverly. So what do you do to survive beyond this scheme. Spread your loan for as long as possible to enjoy lowest possible installments. Then pay as much as you can. Never to pay beyond 6yrs.otherwise Wait for the auction and booked ur space at langata cementry or at the lonely columns.


@muandiwambeu cant agree anymore. Let young people with a duty to feed their ego take these apartment houses. ATI service charge of 20k every month . Dangerous.mbaya sana kabisa

Instant gratification. They want to convince anyone who cares that they are in the dough, with a furnished apartment. Needless to say, they realize their mistake once maturity sets in. Indeed, they pay millions to be tenants for the rest of their lives. They literally pay to be slaves of the developing company. The developing company retains the title deed and give them little pieces of paper signed by a gang of thieves called lawyers. Then the development company claims a "service charge" and other fees to manage the property. What is the point of having a house you cant call your own since you have no title deed, pay rent "service charge" which is almost the same amount that you use to pay rent in the same apartment.
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sitaki.kujulikana
#689 Posted : Sunday, November 29, 2015 12:52:29 AM
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what happens when one fails to pay the service charge, I am sure the company can not auction your house or apartment for that.
enyands
#690 Posted : Sunday, November 29, 2015 4:21:36 AM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
what happens when one fails to pay the service charge, I am sure the company can not auction your house or apartment for that.


Unaweza tafutiwa mikora Kwa gate.anyway on serious note can someone help
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