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hardwood
#671 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 3:35:26 PM
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hardwood
#672 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 3:48:15 PM
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murchr
#673 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 3:48:30 PM
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hardwood wrote:


So there's a precedent.... good. Wakiaga was not out of line. Am sure Ahmednasir can set up an appointment with the judge and ask this very question.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Gathige
#674 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 3:51:41 PM
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Joined: 3/29/2011
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murchr wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Baratang wrote:
The judge claimed that the Jowi fellow is the male version of slay queen...that is he is a slay king.

Definition of slay king:

A slay king is a spoilt man.It's a man who dresses to kill…a man whose main goal is to get the attention of women. A slay king pretends to be rich, hires expensive cars to floss around, especially weekends and he is never bothered about .This man is dead broke but his lifestyle is what every man dreams of living. A slay king has zero ideas on how to make money but he holds a PhD of spending the money. His only pride is, “my father is a big man, my uncle is the real deal, my cousin drive Rolls Royce.

A slay king has a third eye, purposely for seducing women-he salivates over any lady.

Was the judge right or wrong?



You and I can have our ideas of his slayness or otherwise. Heck even the Judge has a right to his personal opinion...

However, bringing his personal opinion in the decision and making it a court document is very wrong.

Does it mean that if you are a slay queen, you have no right to bail? But if you are chochorait, you have a right to bail?

What was the intention to bring up his slayness? Did it add value to jurispudence in the country? Should ALL boychilds now be denied bail because the judge saw them on chocho mendia?



As usual you ran away with the punch line.

The judge gave very good reasons.

1. No known address, the brother in the middle East was to rent, no guarantee shown.

2. No job or social ties in Kenya, most are in the middle East. He was to open a security company but the defence did not show any course to this.

3. Suicidal per prosecution , someone tried to shoot him per defence, either way his life is in danger. Good for him to have care.

4. Needs treatment, state to take care of that.

5. Has shown prowess with weapons, likely to intimidate potential witnesses.

6. Has close ties to people in the middle East and has travelled widely, may be a flight risk.

E.T.C


No known address, he does not even have a title for even a Password plot in Tinga that are sold as cheap as chicken legs?
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Angelica _ann
#675 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:09:22 PM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,935
Gathige wrote:
murchr wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Baratang wrote:
The judge claimed that the Jowi fellow is the male version of slay queen...that is he is a slay king.

Definition of slay king:

A slay king is a spoilt man.It's a man who dresses to kill…a man whose main goal is to get the attention of women. A slay king pretends to be rich, hires expensive cars to floss around, especially weekends and he is never bothered about .This man is dead broke but his lifestyle is what every man dreams of living. A slay king has zero ideas on how to make money but he holds a PhD of spending the money. His only pride is, “my father is a big man, my uncle is the real deal, my cousin drive Rolls Royce.

A slay king has a third eye, purposely for seducing women-he salivates over any lady.

Was the judge right or wrong?



You and I can have our ideas of his slayness or otherwise. Heck even the Judge has a right to his personal opinion...

However, bringing his personal opinion in the decision and making it a court document is very wrong.

Does it mean that if you are a slay queen, you have no right to bail? But if you are chochorait, you have a right to bail?

What was the intention to bring up his slayness? Did it add value to jurispudence in the country? Should ALL boychilds now be denied bail because the judge saw them on chocho mendia?



As usual you ran away with the punch line.

The judge gave very good reasons.

1. No known address, the brother in the middle East was to rent, no guarantee shown.

2. No job or social ties in Kenya, most are in the middle East. He was to open a security company but the defence did not show any course to this.

3. Suicidal per prosecution , someone tried to shoot him per defence, either way his life is in danger. Good for him to have care.

4. Needs treatment, state to take care of that.

5. Has shown prowess with weapons, likely to intimidate potential witnesses.

6. Has close ties to people in the middle East and has travelled widely, may be a flight risk.

E.T.C


No known address, he does not even have a title for even a Password plot in Tinga that are sold as cheap as chicken legs?


Doesnt even have nduthi (sp) ama Tuktuk jameni. You can imajine how he used to brag on how many ..... he has ...... kumbe hana chochote. Sad kabisa. By the time he gets out of Inda ...smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
murchr
#676 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:12:56 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Angelica _ann wrote:
Gathige wrote:
murchr wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Baratang wrote:
The judge claimed that the Jowi fellow is the male version of slay queen...that is he is a slay king.

Definition of slay king:

A slay king is a spoilt man.It's a man who dresses to kill…a man whose main goal is to get the attention of women. A slay king pretends to be rich, hires expensive cars to floss around, especially weekends and he is never bothered about .This man is dead broke but his lifestyle is what every man dreams of living. A slay king has zero ideas on how to make money but he holds a PhD of spending the money. His only pride is, “my father is a big man, my uncle is the real deal, my cousin drive Rolls Royce.

A slay king has a third eye, purposely for seducing women-he salivates over any lady.

Was the judge right or wrong?



You and I can have our ideas of his slayness or otherwise. Heck even the Judge has a right to his personal opinion...

However, bringing his personal opinion in the decision and making it a court document is very wrong.

Does it mean that if you are a slay queen, you have no right to bail? But if you are chochorait, you have a right to bail?

What was the intention to bring up his slayness? Did it add value to jurispudence in the country? Should ALL boychilds now be denied bail because the judge saw them on chocho mendia?



As usual you ran away with the punch line.

The judge gave very good reasons.

1. No known address, the brother in the middle East was to rent, no guarantee shown.

2. No job or social ties in Kenya, most are in the middle East. He was to open a security company but the defence did not show any course to this.

3. Suicidal per prosecution , someone tried to shoot him per defence, either way his life is in danger. Good for him to have care.

4. Needs treatment, state to take care of that.

5. Has shown prowess with weapons, likely to intimidate potential witnesses.

6. Has close ties to people in the middle East and has travelled widely, may be a flight risk.

E.T.C


No known address, he does not even have a title for even a Password plot in Tinga that are sold as cheap as chicken legs?


Doesnt even have nduthi (sp) ama Tuktuk jameni. You can imajine how he used to brag on how many ..... he has ...... kumbe hana chochote. Sad kabisa. By the time he gets out of Inda ...smile


Actually, his affidavit may show the intent to kill Monica. He wanted to start a security company, did he kill her so that he can steal money from her?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Kusadikika
#677 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 8:38:53 PM
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Joined: 7/22/2008
Posts: 2,721
sparkly wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Baratang wrote:
The judge claimed that the Jowi fellow is the male version of slay queen...that is he is a slay king.

Definition of slay king:

A slay king is a spoilt man.It's a man who dresses to kill…a man whose main goal is to get the attention of women. A slay king pretends to be rich, hires expensive cars to floss around, especially weekends and he is never bothered about .This man is dead broke but his lifestyle is what every man dreams of living. A slay king has zero ideas on how to make money but he holds a PhD of spending the money. His only pride is, “my father is a big man, my uncle is the real deal, my cousin drive Rolls Royce.

A slay king has a third eye, purposely for seducing women-he salivates over any lady.

Was the judge right or wrong?



You and I can have our ideas of his slayness or otherwise. Heck even the Judge has a right to his personal opinion...

However, bringing his personal opinion in the decision and making it a court document is very wrong.

Does it mean that if you are a slay queen, you have no right to bail? But if you are chochorait, you have a right to bail?

What was the intention to bring up his slayness? Did it add value to jurispudence in the country? Should ALL boychilds now be denied bail because the judge saw them on chocho mendia?



Judges often go out of their way to spice up otherwise boring judgements. A judge can say whatever he wants to say but what jurists look for is the ratio decidendi "reason for decision". Was Jowie denied bail for the REASON that he is a slay king? If so defence has very good grounds for appeal.


It is worse in the US where judges and District Attorneys (prosecutors) are elected. If you commit an offense and are arrested and charged in a small town in the Bible belt you can be sure you will be tried in Christian Religious Court.

The judge, prosecutor and jury all are of the same faith and beliefs and in those places you don't get judged according to what the "constitution" says it is judgement by your peers who know the Bible more than they know the law. That is why a state like Louisiana has the highest incarceration rate in the US and they also have one of the largest prisons in the world called Angola.

In that place the fact that you are black and living with a woman who is not wife, baaaaaaas!! you are already guilty of whatever crime you have been accused of and you will get maximum sentence.



majimaji
#678 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2018 10:00:48 AM
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Joined: 4/4/2007
Posts: 1,162

I agree the judge made irrelevant comments. Such comments are expected from the social media chatter but not from a learned fellow, be it a judge, a doctor or engineer.
sparkly
#679 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2018 10:23:02 AM
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Has Itumbi resurfaced from "celebrating" Maribe's release?

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Angelica _ann
#680 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2018 10:44:56 AM
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Why are some people mad at Judge Wakiaga yet the remarks he made are the character & behavior of the individual which will form a good part of the case.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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