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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
Ebenyo
#6721 Posted : Tuesday, December 06, 2016 7:13:39 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
sparkly wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:


Michael Joseph alipewa kazi ngumu sana.


Mzee Tipos had a prize bull. Sahiwal cross. Almost a tonne in weight. Height of an adult man at the hump, Smooth hide, best in the region. The bull won him awards at the breeders' exhibition. Other farmers line up to have their cows serviced by the bull.

Then misfortune struck. The bull stopped mounting cows. Grazing was was problem. Bull became irritable. It started losing weight.

Mzee Tipos got the best vets available in the county. They prescribed drugs, revolutionary feeds and supplements. But the bulls condition did not improve. It got worse.

After a couple of months as the former prize bull lay emaciated and dying in the pasture. The herdsman made a startling discovery. The bull was infested by parasites. The vet confirmed that indeed parasites had attacked all internal and external organs of the bull including the head, the gut, the feet and the skin. Had the infestation was too severe to be treated.

Despite his love for the Mzee Tipos made the decision to incinerate the bull to put it out of misery and save the rest of the herd from parasites.

KQ is the price bull that got attacked by all manner of parasites... management, staff, tenderprenuers. The company is dead. All prescriptions have failed. But some parasites still hang on even as the company is on the death bed. The only logical approach to get rid of the parasites is to liquidate the company.





i agree with you @Sparkly,but it will be very odd for the country to be without a national courrier.Since it requires much money to resuscitate kq,the alternative is to allow the firm to die then start a new one with a new brand e.g Kenya airlines or Air Kenya.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
obiero
#6722 Posted : Tuesday, December 06, 2016 7:29:25 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
Ebenyo wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
obiero wrote:


Michael Joseph alipewa kazi ngumu sana.


Mzee Tipos had a prize bull. Sahiwal cross. Almost a tonne in weight. Height of an adult man at the hump, Smooth hide, best in the region. The bull won him awards at the breeders' exhibition. Other farmers line up to have their cows serviced by the bull.

Then misfortune struck. The bull stopped mounting cows. Grazing was was problem. Bull became irritable. It started losing weight.

Mzee Tipos got the best vets available in the county. They prescribed drugs, revolutionary feeds and supplements. But the bulls condition did not improve. It got worse.

After a couple of months as the former prize bull lay emaciated and dying in the pasture. The herdsman made a startling discovery. The bull was infested by parasites. The vet confirmed that indeed parasites had attacked all internal and external organs of the bull including the head, the gut, the feet and the skin. Had the infestation was too severe to be treated.

Despite his love for the Mzee Tipos made the decision to incinerate the bull to put it out of misery and save the rest of the herd from parasites.

KQ is the price bull that got attacked by all manner of parasites... management, staff, tenderprenuers. The company is dead. All prescriptions have failed. But some parasites still hang on even as the company is on the death bed. The only logical approach to get rid of the parasites is to liquidate the company.





i agree with you @Sparkly,but it will be very odd for the country to be without a national courrier.Since it requires much money to resuscitate kq,the alternative is to allow the firm to die then start a new one with a new brand e.g Kenya airlines or Air Kenya.

What happens to the logo? Do you know that the KQ logo alone can buy Kenol Kobil, I&M and Kenya Re.. Meanwhile we read with gladness https://mobile.twitter.c...5849238684868608/photo/1

KQ ABP 4.26
Ebenyo
#6723 Posted : Tuesday, December 06, 2016 7:47:26 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
[quote=obiero]KQ staff are one messed up lot http://www.businessdaily...5278-2ramtgz/index.html


Michael Joseph alipewa kazi ngumu sana.


Mzee Tipos had a prize bull. Sahiwal cross. Almost a tonne in weight. Height of an adult man at the hump, Smooth hide, best in the region. The bull won him awards at the breeders' exhibition. Other farmers line up to have their cows serviced by the bull.

Then misfortune struck. The bull stopped mounting cows. Grazing was was problem. Bull became irritable. It started losing weight.

Mzee Tipos got the best vets available in the county. They prescribed drugs, revolutionary feeds and supplements. But the bulls condition did not improve. It got worse.

After a couple of months as the former prize bull lay emaciated and dying in the pasture. The herdsman made a startling discovery. The bull was infested by parasites. The vet confirmed that indeed parasites had attacked all internal and external organs of the bull including the head, the gut, the feet and the skin. Had the infestation was too severe to be treated.

Despite his love for the Mzee Tipos made the decision to incinerate the bull to put it out of misery and save the rest of the herd from parasites.

KQ is the price bull that got attacked by all manner of parasites... management, staff, tenderprenuers. The company is dead. All prescriptions have failed. But some parasites still hang on even as the company is on the death bed. The only logical approach to get rid of the parasites is to liquidate the company.





i agree with you @Sparkly,but it will be very odd for the country to be without a national courrier.Since it requires much money to resuscitate kq,the alternative is to allow the firm to die then start a new one with a new brand e.g Kenya airlines or Air Kenya.

What happens to the logo? Do you know that the KQ logo alone can buy Kenol Kobil, I&M and Kenya Re[/quo

Wait......You are very funny obiero.I know whom you have 'hit' directly.He is going to respond.
I like you both.Your investment style is short-medium term. But i like @VVS investment style which is more of longterm and looks at value and credible mgt.
Kenya re,kk and i&m are all good companies which are well managed.Im in kenya re,and in future i might consider i&m and kk.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
VituVingiSana
#6724 Posted : Tuesday, December 06, 2016 7:59:43 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,346
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
[quote=obiero]KQ staff are one messed up lot http://www.businessdaily...5278-2ramtgz/index.html


Michael Joseph alipewa kazi ngumu sana.


Mzee Tipos had a prize bull. Sahiwal cross. Almost a tonne in weight. Height of an adult man at the hump, Smooth hide, best in the region. The bull won him awards at the breeders' exhibition. Other farmers line up to have their cows serviced by the bull.

Then misfortune struck. The bull stopped mounting cows. Grazing was was problem. Bull became irritable. It started losing weight.

Mzee Tipos got the best vets available in the county. They prescribed drugs, revolutionary feeds and supplements. But the bulls condition did not improve. It got worse.

After a couple of months as the former prize bull lay emaciated and dying in the pasture. The herdsman made a startling discovery. The bull was infested by parasites. The vet confirmed that indeed parasites had attacked all internal and external organs of the bull including the head, the gut, the feet and the skin. Had the infestation was too severe to be treated.

Despite his love for the Mzee Tipos made the decision to incinerate the bull to put it out of misery and save the rest of the herd from parasites.

KQ is the price bull that got attacked by all manner of parasites... management, staff, tenderprenuers. The company is dead. All prescriptions have failed. But some parasites still hang on even as the company is on the death bed. The only logical approach to get rid of the parasites is to liquidate the company.





i agree with you @Sparkly,but it will be very odd for the country to be without a national courrier.Since it requires much money to resuscitate kq,the alternative is to allow the firm to die then start a new one with a new brand e.g Kenya airlines or Air Kenya.

What happens to the logo? Do you know that the KQ logo alone can buy Kenol Kobil, I&M and Kenya Re.. Meanwhile we read with gladness https://mobile.twitter.c...849238684868608/photo/1[/quote]
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Dear Shareholders of KK, I&M and KenRe,

Isn't the KQ logo a beautiful logo? Would you like to own a share of the logo? The logo looks better than numbers on your dividend cheque.

KQ would like to offer you shares in its LOGO in exchange for the shares you hold in these (profitable) firms.

We believe this logo will generate massive returns after we merge KK, KenRe and I&M then run the combined entity as efficiently as we have run KQ. At the minimum, we can use the profits from these firms and claim them as our own.

Sincerely,

KQ Board and Management
Consultant: Obiero & Company
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#6725 Posted : Tuesday, December 06, 2016 6:15:29 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
KQ finally turning around.. The most recent figures are compelling

KQ ABP 4.26
Impunity
#6726 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:22:20 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
obiero wrote:
KQ finally turning around.. The most recent figures are compelling


Put them figures here!
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

ArrestedDev
#6727 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2016 2:04:23 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
KQ finally turning around.. The most recent figures are compelling


Put them figures here!


Nothing to take home. The chronic disruptions and delays is eating into the low margins. The loss will be 10 billion plus.
obiero
#6728 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2016 2:56:32 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
KQ finally turning around.. The most recent figures are compelling


Put them figures here!


Nothing to take home. The chronic disruptions and delays is eating into the low margins. The loss will be 10 billion plus.

Get out of here

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#6729 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2016 9:05:47 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,346
Location: Nairobi
1bn or 10bn. A loss is a loss. This is not about a loss that happens once in a while. This is about losses that occur without fail. Year after year. Plus there's the 35bn NEGATIVE equity.

I want KQ to be profitable. It has a significant role to play in our economy BUT not if it is subsidized year in, year out.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#6730 Posted : Thursday, December 08, 2016 6:46:26 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
1bn or 10bn. A loss is a loss. This is not about a loss that happens once in a while. This is about losses that occur without fail. Year after year. Plus there's the 35bn NEGATIVE equity.

I want KQ to be profitable. It has a significant role to play in our economy BUT not if it is subsidized year in, year out.

Hii subsidy unasema ndio ipi tena.. The last one was the last one

KQ ABP 4.26
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