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Horton
#651 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2018 11:34:48 AM
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obiero wrote:
newfarer wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ouch! You win some, you lose some.
Good news is that this was a Tier 3 holding for me but it still hurts!

Should have listened to Mr. Buffett! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

What has happened chief

ARM has gone burst.bankrupt.pole.its life.put under PWC as joint administrator .

Is this information verified



There is an advert in today’s paper about PWC as administrators. Sorry can’t attach screenshot
Horton
#652 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2018 11:41:25 AM
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ARM officially under administration 😞😞

https://uk.reuters.com/a...-statement-idUKL5N1V903Q
obiero
#653 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2018 11:49:59 AM
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Horton wrote:
ARM officially under administration 😞😞

https://uk.reuters.com/a...statement-idUKL5N1V903Q

Quite sad.. A stock fattening rally comes crumbling. It seemed like a dream. @fyatu gets hit again! PWC appointed as administrators of Kenya’s ARM Cement, PWC said in a statement on Saturday, days after ARM Cement’s chief executive officer said he was relinquishing his post but staying on its board.

This action that falls under Kenya’s Insolvency Act, was effective on Aug. 17.

obiero
#654 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2018 11:54:07 AM
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wukan wrote:
maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
rwitre wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Still think that balance sheet is hiding alot more skeletons than what has been revealed so far. Time will tell.


They keep coming


@Obiero is all smiles smile


For the umpteenth time never ever buy a corporate bond in Kenya... Never...


What about safaricom and kengen bonds? ARM was junk bond

On Monday I will be wearing a black suit

the deal
#655 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2018 11:55:23 AM
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obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
ARM officially under administration 😞😞

https://uk.reuters.com/a...statement-idUKL5N1V903Q

Quite sad.. A stock fattening rally comes crumbling. It seemed like a dream. @fyatu gets hit again! PWC appointed as administrators of Kenya’s ARM Cement, PWC said in a statement on Saturday, days after ARM Cement’s chief executive officer said he was relinquishing his post but staying on its board.

This action that falls under Kenya’s Insolvency Act, was effective on Aug. 17.


@fyatu was warned lol...
obiero
#656 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2018 11:55:45 AM
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xxxxx wrote:
obiero wrote:
Kwiklana wrote:
@XXXXX and @Fyatu are rather quiet at this turn of events.

What would you want them to say bwana Kwiklana.. That @Obiero had warned them of the folly of chasing a rapidly moving monkey?


Haha...any responsible investor would know that this is not NEWS and should not elicit noise or even a reaction fOtherwisearket. All this is already priced in and was the main reason why @the price tanked decisively in April, May and the larger part of June.

The issue is simple. The auditor's challenge was doubts about the going concern of @ARMCement because as at reporting date, CDC had not committed to supporting the group's survival given the deteriorating Working K position. The auditor's concerns were mainly due to the fact that AFC's long term debt as well as the banks' loans were due this year.

The auditor has been engaged as group auditor for over 10 years. During that time, @ARM has constructed plants in TZ to the tune of so many billion KES. This plant is carried as PPE in the group's books.

The funds were advanced to Maweni Limestone which is 100% owned by @ARM. So there's a payable to @ARM in Maweni Limestones books as well as a receivable from Maweni in @ARMs books which cancel out on consolidation.

The auditor wanted either 1) this receivable to be provided for by @ARM which doesn't make sense because of the related party relationship and cancellation on consolidation which leaves a net of zero.

2) Failing that, because Tanzania is not performing, the auditor then wanted to impair this PPE which also didn't make sense since @ARM was in the process of debt restructure as well as confirming support from CDC which is now confirmed.

If you try to understand the reality of the situation, you would see the opportunity. Just a little bit of research and reading may open your eyes. Otherwise, stick to companies you purport to understand.

Just to be clear, if CDC had confirmed the debt restructure terms and conditions before the reporting period, the auditor would have been satisfied with ARMs going concern status and such provisions/impairments would never have been mooted. We wouldn't even be having this discussion regardless of ARMs financial performance.

The zig zagging of @ARMCement's price (or any other security for that matter) in the short term owing to regurgitated noise shouldn't blow you off your investment principles bwana. This is a stock market.

As always, if its not palatable for you, sit back, watch and learn.

Watching and learning..

Ericsson
#657 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2018 12:33:44 PM
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vvs favourite companies.
I wonder whether if Warren buffet was in kenya his recommendations would have been.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
littledove
#658 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2018 1:39:09 PM
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[quote=Horton]ARM officially under administration 😞😞

https://uk.reuters.com/a...statement-idUKL5N1V903Q[/quote]
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There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
littledove
#659 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2018 1:40:51 PM
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[quote=Horton]ARM officially under administration 😞😞

https://uk.reuters.com/a...statement-idUKL5N1V903Q[/quote]


most likely preparing the company for acquisition
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
Ericsson
#660 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2018 1:48:15 PM
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littledove wrote:
[quote=Horton]ARM officially under administration 😞😞

https://uk.reuters.com/a...statement-idUKL5N1V903Q[/quote]


most likely preparing the company for acquisition


Assets will be split and sold off to pay creditors
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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