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#651 Posted : Tuesday, December 04, 2018 6:23:58 AM
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Murchr, just heard on radio that your boss has suspended his earlier rule banning matatus from CBD.

Spin it...
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masukuma
#652 Posted : Tuesday, December 04, 2018 6:39:04 AM
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Mike Ock wrote:
hardwood wrote:
People are finally realising that matatus are not the problem.





Those who claim matatus are the problem on our roads are just car owners reacting to the reckless matatu behaviour. But ukweli usemwe, the real cause of jam is the Kenyan culture of buying a car to show that umefika. Personal cars ndio zinajaza barabara bure. What Kenya needs is some kind of luxurious bus that also can be a status symbol. Maybe if you want to show people umefika you use that bus. It can be picking people from home and dropping them at home too kama school bus. Maybe that upcoming Uber for matatu can fill that gap.

I don't believe in bans... i believe in incentives (+ve and -ve) so.. just make parking fees 1500/= tuone ambao wamefika!
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alma1
#653 Posted : Tuesday, December 04, 2018 7:08:19 AM
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The funny thing about this mess is that the only person who can fix this is Sonko. He has a lot of political clout. I noticed no one called him elitist like Kidero.

There's a problem in Nairobi and it needs long term thought with short term fixes along the way. Only Sonko right now can fix that.

1. Work with the satellite governors to come up with a real BRT system. It should include Kenya Railways, large capacity saccos, everyone....Not red paint.

2. Increase parking fees for all vehicles including private and matatus.

3. Upgrade those terminus that are quarter finished to National stadium standards with toilets security etc and capacity

4. Work with Matiangi to tame the indiscipline with Matatu Saccos.

5. Effect the ban between 9am to 4pm

6. Work with Saccos to have them drop and pick passengers only. I have seen those buses at Kencom that implement that and don't see the kind of hell that goes on on Tom Mboya street. Let them comply or work with Matiangi to revoke their licenses.

Those are short term measures that will have the support of all Kenyans.

We don't like Matatu culture. But Sonko handed these madmen a blank check to ringa just because he failed to plan and was banking on NYS buses....And the support of Murchr.
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hardwood
#654 Posted : Tuesday, December 04, 2018 7:32:47 AM
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Heavy morning rain pounds Nairobi as traffic chaos enter day 2.
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#655 Posted : Tuesday, December 04, 2018 7:49:24 AM
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hardwood wrote:
Heavy morning rain pounds Nairobi as traffic chaos enter day 2.

Sonko suspended his ban at 6 am smile

Would have been interesting to see what would have happened if the ban was in effect today
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KulaRaha
#656 Posted : Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:27:11 AM
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freiks
#657 Posted : Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:35:22 AM
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masukuma wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
hardwood wrote:
People are finally realising that matatus are not the problem.





Those who claim matatus are the problem on our roads are just car owners reacting to the reckless matatu behaviour. But ukweli usemwe, the real cause of jam is the Kenyan culture of buying a car to show that umefika. Personal cars ndio zinajaza barabara bure. What Kenya needs is some kind of luxurious bus that also can be a status symbol. Maybe if you want to show people umefika you use that bus. It can be picking people from home and dropping them at home too kama school bus. Maybe that upcoming Uber for matatu can fill that gap.

I don't believe in bans... i believe in incentives (+ve and -ve) so.. just make parking fees 1500/= tuone ambao wamefika!


Dont blame the personal cars, why was there traffic on University Way? Matatus were turning from globe roundabout therefore the build up starts there and it goes to nairobi university roundabout, so another gridlock along the uhuru highway. At the end of the day only BRT can safe the nrb traffic but how do you control those 14 seaters from upcountry?
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Angelica _ann
#658 Posted : Tuesday, December 04, 2018 8:42:09 AM
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Mike Ock wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Expect crazy traffic kesho if county govt follows up on its directive. No mats allowed in town. Jogoo road mats to terminate at Muthurwa, Thika rd, Kiambu rd, limuru rd & Waiyaki way mats to pick n drop passengers at Fig tree Ngara. Ngong road mats at Railways.

Since the commuter living along Ngong road and working along Thika Rd will find it hard to walk from railways to Fig tree, expect more weekend drivers on the roads!

Also, I hear parking fee is down to 200 bob


This is dumb populist policy aimed at earning some fake points with mwananchi in the name of appearing to be working. Any smart urban planner knows that public transit is the solution to traffic. Private cars carrying one passenger each are the problem. No way this sticks for anything more than a few days.


Your prediction came to be true and couldn't last beyond day 1.

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KulaRaha
#659 Posted : Tuesday, December 04, 2018 9:28:52 AM
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So, lets think this through. We have tried banning psvs in CBD twice now, both times failed.

So, say we ban private vehicles in the CBD. What would happen?
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Fyatu
#660 Posted : Tuesday, December 04, 2018 9:28:55 AM
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hardwood wrote:
People are finally realising that matatus are not the problem.






For a moment i thought i was seeing my own things...What?..Yaani kumbe cars are this many in this not-green-city in the sun?? Someone once suggested here on Wazua that Kenyans are way well-off under Jubilee govt. based on the number of brand-new secondhand cars on our roads and i thought it was bollocks.Clearly, i might have been wrong

The only solution to this problem as others have postulated is to build the infrastructure for efficient transport systems ASAP and make parking very expensive for the car owners. People are talking about BRT but don't mention BRT means that new roads/lanes complete with designated busstops have to be built(refer to Dar). Others are talking about light rail but know very well that Ethiopia had to build the infrastructure first for it to be a success. There is no shortcut about it and no amount of procrastination from government(Nairobi county govt. included) will make the problem go away.That figtree termini should have been established somewhere in githurai, Muthurwa should be pushed huko saika(just as they did with Marikiti) Railways termini should be somewhere huko Bomas/Rongai. In short what i am trying to say is that, in the future no matatus should operate within 16 kms radius of CBD. Only rapid transport systems should.

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