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Nandwa
#641 Posted : Sunday, June 18, 2017 11:31:23 AM
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Joined: 11/17/2009
Posts: 1,049
Female Imams running Mosques!
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With a mission to spread a liberal form of Islam, a mosque where men and women pray side by side has opened its doors in Berlin, complete with female imams.

But
Quote:
Police stood guard outside the entrance of the building.
The founders said they had not received any threats or insults, but that they fully expected not everyone would be happy.
Ates — who has campaigned against forced marriages, domestic violence and so-called "honour killings" among Muslim migrants — said the project was eight years in the making.
"Many left along the way," she said. "They told us it was dangerous, that they were afraid."
Elham Manea, a Swiss political scientist of Yemeni background, said the time had come for change, with other so-called liberal mosques having also opened in the United States, Britain and Switzerland.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
AlphDoti
#642 Posted : Monday, June 19, 2017 1:26:47 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Lolest! wrote:
Quote:
"In Saudi, it's hard to be straight when you're young. The women are shut away so everyone has gay sex. But they only want to have sex with boys – 15- to 21-year-olds. I'm 27, so I'm too old now. I need to find real gays, so this is the best place. All Arab gays want to live in Dubai."

http://www.independent.c...e-of-dubai-1664368.html

Man is evil, no amount of legalism can save him.

What do you expect from gays... You are exporting everything... And you failed to copy paste the statement before that: "Saleh, a lean private in the Saudi Arabian army, has come here for the Coldplay concert, and tells me Dubai is "great" for gays:"

You people have gone there and made the place evil with all manner of illegal acts...

Look at what the Canadian lady confesses to: Her husband, Daniel, bought two properties. "We were drunk on Dubai," she says. But for the first time in his life, he was beginning to mismanage their finances.
AlphDoti
#643 Posted : Monday, June 19, 2017 1:30:17 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Nandwa wrote:
Female Imams running Mosques!
Quote:
With a mission to spread a liberal form of Islam, a mosque where men and women pray side by side has opened its doors in Berlin, complete with female imams.

But
Quote:
Police stood guard outside the entrance of the building.
The founders said they had not received any threats or insults, but that they fully expected not everyone would be happy.
Ates — who has campaigned against forced marriages, domestic violence and so-called "honour killings" among Muslim migrants — said the project was eight years in the making.
"Many left along the way," she said. "They told us it was dangerous, that they were afraid."
Elham Manea, a Swiss political scientist of Yemeni background, said the time had come for change, with other so-called liberal mosques having also opened in the United States, Britain and Switzerland.

What we so often forget is that God has honored women by giving them value in relation to God—not in relation to men.

But as Western feminism erases God from the scene, there is no standard left but men. As a result, the Western feminist is forced to find her value in relation to a man. And in so doing, she has accepted a faulty assumption. She has accepted that man is the standard, and thus a woman can never be a full human being until she becomes just like a man—the standard.

When a man cut his hair short, she wanted to cut her hair short. When a man joined the army, she wanted to join the army, and so on. She wanted these things for no other reason than because the “standard” had it.

What she didn’t recognize was that God dignifies both men and women in their distinctiveness, not their sameness. And on March 18, Muslim women made the very same mistake.

For 1,400 years, there has been a consensus of scholars that men are to lead prayer.

As a Muslim woman, why does this matter? The one who leads prayer is not spiritually superior in any way. Something is not better just because a man does it. And leading Prayer is not better just because it is leading.

Had it been the role of women or had it been more divine, why wouldn’t the Prophet {SAW} have asked Lady `A’ishah or Lady Khadijah, or Lady Fatimah—the greatest women of all time—to lead? These women were promised heaven and yet they never led prayer.

But now, for the first time in 1,400 years, we look at a man leading prayer and we think, “that’s not fair.” We think so, although God has given no special privilege to the one who leads. The imam is no higher in the eyes of God than the one who prays behind him.
Lolest!
#644 Posted : Monday, June 19, 2017 6:21:05 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
AlphDoti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Quote:
"In Saudi, it's hard to be straight when you're young. The women are shut away so everyone has gay sex. But they only want to have sex with boys – 15- to 21-year-olds. I'm 27, so I'm too old now. I need to find real gays, so this is the best place. All Arab gays want to live in Dubai."

http://www.independent.c...e-of-dubai-1664368.html

Man is evil, no amount of legalism can save him.

What do you expect from gays... You are exporting everything... And you failed to copy paste the statement before that: "Saleh, a lean private in the Saudi Arabian army, has come here for the Coldplay concert, and tells me Dubai is "great" for gays:"

You people have gone there and made the place evil with all manner of illegal acts...

Look at what the Canadian lady confesses to: Her husband, Daniel, bought two properties. "We were drunk on Dubai," she says. But for the first time in his life, he was beginning to mismanage their finances.

Legalism cannot save

Perhaps why our Lord Jesus moved us away from focus on just actions but the mind where it all starts
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AlphDoti
#645 Posted : Tuesday, June 20, 2017 11:32:34 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Lolest! wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Quote:
"In Saudi, it's hard to be straight when you're young. The women are shut away so everyone has gay sex. But they only want to have sex with boys – 15- to 21-year-olds. I'm 27, so I'm too old now. I need to find real gays, so this is the best place. All Arab gays want to live in Dubai."

http://www.independent.c...e-of-dubai-1664368.html

Man is evil, no amount of legalism can save him.

What do you expect from gays... You are exporting everything... And you failed to copy paste the statement before that: "Saleh, a lean private in the Saudi Arabian army, has come here for the Coldplay concert, and tells me Dubai is "great" for gays:"

You people have gone there and made the place evil with all manner of illegal acts...

Look at what the Canadian lady confesses to: Her husband, Daniel, bought two properties. "We were drunk on Dubai," she says. But for the first time in his life, he was beginning to mismanage their finances.

Legalism cannot save

Perhaps why our Lord Jesus moved us away from focus on just actions but the mind where it all starts

That's exactly the problem of your people who go to these countries and they take their evil acts with i.e. alcohol, prostitution and now gayism

As @tycho said, the only way one can one do good is by willing to know what is good and what is evil. Then constantly transform your mind through action.

Unfortunately, you as a Christian believes in simply believing. You just believe and according to you this guarantees people leaving gayism. You are following Paul: "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law." (Romans 3:28.)

But you have ignored what Jesus said... "Why are you calling me holy? No one is good other than God alone. If you want eternal life, then follow the laws" (Luka 18:18)

And does God Himself say? "As with body without spirit is dead, is Faith without actions is dead." (Jacob 2:26)

So you prefer to follow Paul instead. And this has not helped you Christians. So many Christians today smuggle alcohol to Dubai. So many of them are agitating for gayism and alcoholism and prostitution to be legalized...
muganda
#646 Posted : Tuesday, June 20, 2017 10:24:55 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/15/2006
Posts: 3,907
Profound Applause Surely could be the wisest post I've ever read from yours
AlphDoti wrote:

What we so often forget is that God has honored women by giving them value in relation to God—not in relation to men.

But as Western feminism erases God from the scene, there is no standard left but men. As a result, the Western feminist is forced to find her value in relation to a man. And in so doing, she has accepted a faulty assumption. She has accepted that man is the standard, and thus a woman can never be a full human being until she becomes just like a man—the standard.

When a man cut his hair short, she wanted to cut her hair short. When a man joined the army, she wanted to join the army, and so on. She wanted these things for no other reason than because the “standard” had it.

What she didn’t recognize was that God dignifies both men and women in their distinctiveness, not their sameness. And on March 18, Muslim women made the very same mistake.

For 1,400 years, there has been a consensus of scholars that men are to lead prayer.

As a Muslim woman, why does this matter? The one who leads prayer is not spiritually superior in any way. Something is not better just because a man does it. And leading Prayer is not better just because it is leading.

Had it been the role of women or had it been more divine, why wouldn’t the Prophet {SAW} have asked Lady `A’ishah or Lady Khadijah, or Lady Fatimah—the greatest women of all time—to lead? These women were promised heaven and yet they never led prayer.

But now, for the first time in 1,400 years, we look at a man leading prayer and we think, “that’s not fair.” We think so, although God has given no special privilege to the one who leads. The imam is no higher in the eyes of God than the one who prays behind him.

Lolest!
#647 Posted : Wednesday, June 21, 2017 12:09:04 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
AlphDoti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Quote:
"In Saudi, it's hard to be straight when you're young. The women are shut away so everyone has gay sex. But they only want to have sex with boys – 15- to 21-year-olds. I'm 27, so I'm too old now. I need to find real gays, so this is the best place. All Arab gays want to live in Dubai."

http://www.independent.c...e-of-dubai-1664368.html

Man is evil, no amount of legalism can save him.

What do you expect from gays... You are exporting everything... And you failed to copy paste the statement before that: "Saleh, a lean private in the Saudi Arabian army, has come here for the Coldplay concert, and tells me Dubai is "great" for gays:"

You people have gone there and made the place evil with all manner of illegal acts...

Look at what the Canadian lady confesses to: Her husband, Daniel, bought two properties. "We were drunk on Dubai," she says. But for the first time in his life, he was beginning to mismanage their finances.

Legalism cannot save

Perhaps why our Lord Jesus moved us away from focus on just actions but the mind where it all starts

That's exactly the problem of your people who go to these countries and they take their evil acts with i.e. alcohol, prostitution and now gayism

As @tycho said, the only way one can one do good is by willing to know what is good and what is evil. Then constantly transform your mind through action.

Unfortunately, you as a Christian believes in simply believing. You just believe and according to you this guarantees people leaving gayism. You are following Paul: "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law." (Romans 3:28.)

But you have ignored what Jesus said... "Why are you calling me holy? No one is good other than God alone. If you want eternal life, then follow the laws" (Luka 18:18)

And does God Himself say? "As with body without spirit is dead, is Faith without actions is dead." (Jacob 2:26)

So you prefer to follow Paul instead. And this has not helped you Christians. So many Christians today smuggle alcohol to Dubai. So many of them are agitating for gayism and alcoholism and prostitution to be legalized...

Those are your fellow Muslims engaging in gay sex. Even in your holy land of Saudia

Dude, you can be legalist but you cannot change people's hearts using the law. And the heart of the problem is always a problem of the heart.

Good needs are good, but they will not save you. Worse still, your good deeds are null if you have evil thoughts, that's the Law, the Law under Jesus whom you and Muhammad claim to follow.

And if you break just 1 point of the law, you're guilty of breaking all of it. Like when you bring lies here, you're no different from those gays

Arab world I hear is full of gays. That it's the norm.
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hamburglar
#648 Posted : Tuesday, January 16, 2018 6:44:48 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 12/17/2011
Posts: 887
Mukiri wrote:
Seek ye first the Kingdom of God, and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you


This guy must have really seeked the kingdom of god coz he is getting a lot of things added into him and his family.

https://m.news24.com/Sou...ter-luxury-car-20171221

The guy's daughter has just had a maserati added unto her. Praise god.
Mukiri
#649 Posted : Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:06:52 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
hamburglar wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Seek ye first the Kingdom of God, and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you


This guy must have really seeked the kingdom of god coz he is getting a lot of things added into him and his family.

https://m.news24.com/Sou...ter-luxury-car-20171221

The guy's daughter has just had a maserati added unto her. Praise god.

Amensmile

Proverbs 19:21
masukuma
#650 Posted : Tuesday, January 16, 2018 3:47:40 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
AlphDoti wrote:

Had it been the role of women or had it been more divine, why wouldn’t the Prophet {SAW} have asked Lady `A’ishah or Lady Khadijah, or Lady Fatimah—the greatest women of all time—to lead? These women were promised heaven and yet they never led prayer.
.


Why should they be labeled as the greatest women of all time? Walifanya nini? ambacho mama yangu na mke wangu hawajafanya? Marie Curie is the greatest woman of all time!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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