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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
obiero
#12641 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2019 6:49:46 PM
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ProverB wrote:
[quote=cyruskulei]The dream is real for minority investors:
https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html[/quote]
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You can't make this stuff up. Applause Applause
Throw good money after bad money... On the basis of hope.
Hope is not an investment strategy.

Glad to see you here @proverb
Reduction of gross loss from KES 26B in 2016 to KES 7.5B in 2018, just two years later is not hope but reality.. Further, KAHL will change the aviation industry in Kenya

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VituVingiSana
#12642 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2019 8:51:51 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,129
Location: Nairobi
ProverB wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
The dream is real for minority investors:
https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

You can't make this stuff up. Applause Applause
Throw good money after bad money... On the basis of hope.
Hope is not an investment strategy.
I should have sold my KQ when you started this thread. d'oh!
I did eventually get out. Applause
It is a zombie that keeps on sucking Taxpayer money. Let the minorities fund it for now.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#12643 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:22:19 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,559
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
ProverB wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
The dream is real for minority investors:
https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

You can't make this stuff up. Applause Applause
Throw good money after bad money... On the basis of hope.
Hope is not an investment strategy.
I should have sold my KQ when you started this thread. d'oh!
I did eventually get out. Applause
It is a zombie that keeps on sucking Taxpayer money. Let the minorities fund it for now.

KAHL to be created via national assembly legislation.. Waiver of all taxes on primary KQ inputs approved! We about to take off

COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#12644 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:23:50 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,559
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
ProverB wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
The dream is real for minority investors:
https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

You can't make this stuff up. Applause Applause
Throw good money after bad money... On the basis of hope.
Hope is not an investment strategy.
I should have sold my KQ when you started this thread. d'oh!
I did eventually get out. Applause
It is a zombie that keeps on sucking Taxpayer money. Let the minorities fund it for now.

KAHL to be created via national assembly legislation.. Waiver of all taxes on primary KQ inputs approved! We about to take off

COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#12645 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:32:42 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,129
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ProverB wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
The dream is real for minority investors:
https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

You can't make this stuff up. Applause Applause
Throw good money after bad money... On the basis of hope.
Hope is not an investment strategy.
I should have sold my KQ when you started this thread. d'oh!
I did eventually get out. Applause
It is a zombie that keeps on sucking Taxpayer money. Let the minorities fund it for now.

KAHL to be created via national assembly legislation.. Waiver of all taxes on primary KQ inputs approved! We about to take off

It's real this time. You should put all your money into KQ. Buy every share you can in KQ. Even borrow.
Then you can return and lord it over us.
Show @VVS, @Aguy, @Ericsson, @sparky, @spikes, @proverb among many others how wrong we were.

Increase your shareholding in KQ from 221,100 to MILLIONS. Your dividend will be enough to pay for Business Class year round while we will be in cattle class in the SGR.

Prove us wrong. Please. Go all in. 110%.
Don't forget to take your Namibian friend on the journey with you.

Applause Applause Applause
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#12646 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:44:07 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,559
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ProverB wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
The dream is real for minority investors:
https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

You can't make this stuff up. Applause Applause
Throw good money after bad money... On the basis of hope.
Hope is not an investment strategy.
I should have sold my KQ when you started this thread. d'oh!
I did eventually get out. Applause
It is a zombie that keeps on sucking Taxpayer money. Let the minorities fund it for now.

KAHL to be created via national assembly legislation.. Waiver of all taxes on primary KQ inputs approved! We about to take off

It's real this time. You should put all your money into KQ. Buy every share you can in KQ. Even borrow.
Then you can return and lord it over us.
Show @VVS, @Aguy, @Ericsson, @sparky, @spikes, @proverb among many others how wrong we were.

Increase your shareholding in KQ from 221,100 to MILLIONS. Your dividend will be enough to pay for Business Class year round while we will be in cattle class in the SGR.

Prove us wrong. Please. Go all in. 110%.
Don't forget to take your Namibian friend on the journey with you.

Applause Applause Applause

Machungu ya KIFO cha ARM ndio inakufanya uniongeleshe hivo. I understand

COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#12647 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:45:03 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,129
Location: Nairobi
NIC-CBA and Equity are going to have to impair 5bn+ each for their "investment" in KQ!
The smart guys were the local subsidiaries of foreign banks. They don't seem to have unsecured exposure to KQ.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#12648 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:45:48 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,559
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ProverB wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
The dream is real for minority investors:
https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

You can't make this stuff up. Applause Applause
Throw good money after bad money... On the basis of hope.
Hope is not an investment strategy.
I should have sold my KQ when you started this thread. d'oh!
I did eventually get out. Applause
It is a zombie that keeps on sucking Taxpayer money. Let the minorities fund it for now.

KAHL to be created via national assembly legislation.. Waiver of all taxes on primary KQ inputs approved! We about to take off

It's real this time. You should put all your money into KQ. Buy every share you can in KQ. Even borrow.
Then you can return and lord it over us.
Show @VVS, @Aguy, @Ericsson, @sparky, @spikes, @proverb among many others how wrong we were.

Increase your shareholding in KQ from 221,100 to MILLIONS. Your dividend will be enough to pay for Business Class year round while we will be in cattle class in the SGR.

Prove us wrong. Please. Go all in. 110%.
Don't forget to take your Namibian friend on the journey with you.

Applause Applause Applause

Machungu ya KIFO cha ARM ndio inakufanya utuongeleshe hivo? I understand

COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#12649 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:47:54 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,129
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ProverB wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
The dream is real for minority investors:
https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

You can't make this stuff up. Applause Applause
Throw good money after bad money... On the basis of hope.
Hope is not an investment strategy.
I should have sold my KQ when you started this thread. d'oh!
I did eventually get out. Applause
It is a zombie that keeps on sucking Taxpayer money. Let the minorities fund it for now.

KAHL to be created via national assembly legislation.. Waiver of all taxes on primary KQ inputs approved! We about to take off

It's real this time. You should put all your money into KQ. Buy every share you can in KQ. Even borrow.
Then you can return and lord it over us.
Show @VVS, @Aguy, @Ericsson, @sparky, @spikes, @proverb among many others how wrong we were.

Increase your shareholding in KQ from 221,100 to MILLIONS. Your dividend will be enough to pay for Business Class year round while we will be in cattle class in the SGR.

Prove us wrong. Please. Go all in. 110%.
Don't forget to take your Namibian friend on the journey with you.

Applause Applause Applause

Machungu ya KIFO cha ARM ndio inakufanya uniongeleshe hivo. I understand

Unlike me who soured on ARM too late in the game, you should believe in your yourself. Your analysis. Your insights. We wait for you to be the #1 individual shareholder in KQ beating out Mike Maina and Chris Kirubi.
We support you!
Go, @Obiero, Go. Applause Applause Applause
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#12650 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:53:29 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,559
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ProverB wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
The dream is real for minority investors:
https://www.businessdail...7480-2rkhqfz/index.html

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

You can't make this stuff up. Applause Applause
Throw good money after bad money... On the basis of hope.
Hope is not an investment strategy.
I should have sold my KQ when you started this thread. d'oh!
I did eventually get out. Applause
It is a zombie that keeps on sucking Taxpayer money. Let the minorities fund it for now.

KAHL to be created via national assembly legislation.. Waiver of all taxes on primary KQ inputs approved! We about to take off

It's real this time. You should put all your money into KQ. Buy every share you can in KQ. Even borrow.
Then you can return and lord it over us.
Show @VVS, @Aguy, @Ericsson, @sparky, @spikes, @proverb among many others how wrong we were.

Increase your shareholding in KQ from 221,100 to MILLIONS. Your dividend will be enough to pay for Business Class year round while we will be in cattle class in the SGR.

Prove us wrong. Please. Go all in. 110%.
Don't forget to take your Namibian friend on the journey with you.

Applause Applause Applause

Machungu ya KIFO cha ARM ndio inakufanya uniongeleshe hivo. I understand

Unlike me who soured on ARM too late in the game, you should believe in your yourself. Your analysis. Your insights. We wait for you to be the #1 individual shareholder in KQ beating out Mike Maina and Chris Kirubi.
We support you!
Go, @Obiero, Go. Applause Applause Applause

Nayo nayo! Pilipili usioila ya kuwashia nini

COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#12651 Posted : Friday, May 24, 2019 12:45:46 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,129
Location: Nairobi
@Obiero - Lakini, you get so stressed out about others' picks.
You were so stressed out for guys who were in KK.
Ask @maichblack...

BUT I fully support your decision to buy more shares in KQ. 100% support. Applause
In for a penny, in for a pound.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#12652 Posted : Friday, May 24, 2019 12:05:55 PM
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Joined: 9/25/2009
Posts: 4,534
Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
VituVingiSana wrote:
NIC-CBA and Equity are going to have to impair 5bn+ each for their "investment" in KQ!
The smart guys were the local subsidiaries of foreign banks. They don't seem to have unsecured exposure to KQ.

It won't happen ...just wait and see...a deal will be brokered...
tandich
#12653 Posted : Friday, May 24, 2019 6:12:18 PM
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Joined: 5/6/2008
Posts: 199
Word on the street is the CEO has given notice of resignation. Dec 2019.

I read the annual report and his notice period is 6 months.

@maka Please confirm
maka
#12654 Posted : Friday, May 24, 2019 6:17:46 PM
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Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
tandich wrote:
Word on the street is the CEO has given notice of resignation. Dec 2019.

I read the annual report and his notice period is 6 months.

@maka Please confirm



Yes true I have the notice.... Let me post it.
possunt quia posse videntur
tandich
#12655 Posted : Friday, May 24, 2019 6:23:32 PM
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Posts: 199
tandich wrote:
Word on the street is the CEO has given notice of resignation. Dec 2019.

I read the annual report and his notice period is 6 months.

@maka Please confirm


Kenya Airways CEO Mikosz Set to Quit Before End of His Contract

I wonder. Was he pushed or did he jump?
maka
#12656 Posted : Friday, May 24, 2019 6:25:40 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
tandich wrote:
Word on the street is the CEO has given notice of resignation. Dec 2019.

I read the annual report and his notice period is 6 months.

@maka Please confirm



Yes true I have the notice.... Let me post it.


possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#12657 Posted : Friday, May 24, 2019 6:32:36 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,559
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
tandich wrote:
Word on the street is the CEO has given notice of resignation. Dec 2019.

I read the annual report and his notice period is 6 months.

@maka Please confirm



Yes true I have the notice.... Let me post it.



A perfect gentleman.. In any organization, large or small, if the staff are not with you, all is lost.. KQ's main reason for losses remains the junior staff who don't buy into the vision offered by the leadership.. Even the next CEO will likely be thrown out in similar fashion. Let see what Kivaluka will achieve

COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
maka
#12658 Posted : Friday, May 24, 2019 6:49:19 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
tandich wrote:
Word on the street is the CEO has given notice of resignation. Dec 2019.

I read the annual report and his notice period is 6 months.

@maka Please confirm



Yes true I have the notice.... Let me post it.



A perfect gentleman.. In any organization, large or small, if the staff are not with you, all is lost.. KQ's main reason for losses remains the junior staff who don't buy into the vision offered by the leadership.. Even the next CEO will likely be thrown out in similar fashion. Let see what Kivaluka will achieve



Not really.... From day 1 I told you Sebastian came with a shitty attitude.... I have documented everything here....

BTW that's what has put pressure on him to go home... Nothing else... Treats senior employees like crap... Actually all employees... Anyway told you he won't last it has come to pass...

Don't worry the stories will be out in a few weeks or so... Just read the papers...

He wasnt CEO material... Wrong material for the right job...

possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#12659 Posted : Friday, May 24, 2019 7:01:36 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,559
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
tandich wrote:
Word on the street is the CEO has given notice of resignation. Dec 2019.

I read the annual report and his notice period is 6 months.

@maka Please confirm



Yes true I have the notice.... Let me post it.



A perfect gentleman.. In any organization, large or small, if the staff are not with you, all is lost.. KQ's main reason for losses remains the junior staff who don't buy into the vision offered by the leadership.. Even the next CEO will likely be thrown out in similar fashion. Let see what Kivaluka will achieve



Not really.... From day 1 I told you Sebastian came with a shitty attitude.... I have documented everything here....

BTW that's what has put pressure on him to go home... Nothing else... Treats senior employees like crap... Actually all employees... Anyway told you he won't last it has come to pass...

Don't worry the stories will be out in a few weeks or so... Just read the papers...

He wasnt CEO material... Wrong material for the right job...


Your mindset was set from the start, to reject him.. That's why you crashed the two Embraers

COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
maka
#12660 Posted : Friday, May 24, 2019 7:18:44 PM
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Posts: 11,522
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Good riddance for bad rubbish.... I have told you wait for the scandal to be out in the open....

Let me drink to the news... smile smile smile

Wait and see how service will be upped going forward... Positive energy.
possunt quia posse videntur
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