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KCB 2018 and Beyond
Ericsson
#611 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2022 11:15:06 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
KCB 2021
Q1--Ksh.9.1bn
Q2--Ksh.12.8bn

Q3--Ksh.13.9bn

Q4--Ksh.12bn

Total FY2021 Ksh.47.8bn
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#612 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2022 11:19:31 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
watesh wrote:
With that tiny payout ratio, I hope they are acquiring a major bank in DRC
At 2x what Equity paid.
Mwangi > Oigara

Mwangi: Significant shareholder, salary is lower for the same performance, organic growth (not government supported), looks for bargains.
Oigara: Token, 200-300mn, GoK favoritism, pays more.


Your hatred towards KCB waah.
Equity also got government support during the NARC and Grand coalition regime which propelled it's growth.
How sure are you they will pay 2x what Equity paid.
Meanwhile KCB shareholders continue to enjoy the consistent dividend,Equity is very mean when it comes to dividends and even took shareholders on a two year drought without dividend.
FY2021 results not yet out,might be a third year.

Most banks grew during the Kibaki 1 era.

Equity did very well taking business from Barclays and Stanchart that abandoned Kenyans pale mashinani. I heard that Stanchart is closing the Kiambu branch which had been around for decades!

Equity has NEVER had a Rights Issue since it listed - it only raised money once when it sold 25% to Helios. KCB has had multiple.

KCB has only significantly (as a % of total assets) grown its balance sheet in KE.
Very small business elsewhere (vs Equity) where it doesn't have GoK's support.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
My 2 cents
#613 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2022 12:27:30 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 6/2/2010
Posts: 1,089
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
watesh wrote:
With that tiny payout ratio, I hope they are acquiring a major bank in DRC
At 2x what Equity paid.
Mwangi > Oigara

Mwangi: Significant shareholder, salary is lower for the same performance, organic growth (not government supported), looks for bargains.
Oigara: Token, 200-300mn, GoK favoritism, pays more.


Your hatred towards KCB waah.
Equity also got government support during the NARC and Grand coalition regime which propelled it's growth.
How sure are you they will pay 2x what Equity paid.
Meanwhile KCB shareholders continue to enjoy the consistent dividend,Equity is very mean when it comes to dividends and even took shareholders on a two year drought without dividend.
FY2021 results not yet out,might be a third year.

Most banks grew during the Kibaki 1 era.

Equity did very well taking business from Barclays and Stanchart that abandoned Kenyans pale mashinani. I heard that Stanchart is closing the Kiambu branch which had been around for decades!

Equity has NEVER had a Rights Issue since it listed - it only raised money once when it sold 25% to Helios. KCB has had multiple.

KCB has only significantly (as a % of total assets) grown its balance sheet in KE.
Very small business elsewhere (vs Equity) where it doesn't have GoK's support.


Beware that KCB (like Safaricom) does not become one of your investing 'misses'. At least hedge your anti- KCB position by buying a few.
Ericsson
#614 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2022 2:10:54 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
watesh wrote:
With that tiny payout ratio, I hope they are acquiring a major bank in DRC
At 2x what Equity paid.
Mwangi > Oigara

Mwangi: Significant shareholder, salary is lower for the same performance, organic growth (not government supported), looks for bargains.
Oigara: Token, 200-300mn, GoK favoritism, pays more.


Your hatred towards KCB waah.
Equity also got government support during the NARC and Grand coalition regime which propelled it's growth.
How sure are you they will pay 2x what Equity paid.
Meanwhile KCB shareholders continue to enjoy the consistent dividend,Equity is very mean when it comes to dividends and even took shareholders on a two year drought without dividend.
FY2021 results not yet out,might be a third year.

Most banks grew during the Kibaki 1 era.

Equity did very well taking business from Barclays and Stanchart that abandoned Kenyans pale mashinani. I heard that Stanchart is closing the Kiambu branch which had been around for decades!

Equity has NEVER had a Rights Issue since it listed - it only raised money once when it sold 25% to Helios. KCB has had multiple.

KCB has only significantly (as a % of total assets) grown its balance sheet in KE.
Very small business elsewhere (vs Equity) where it doesn't have GoK's support.


The rights issue that KCB has done have borne fruits in terms of investments they did and higher dividends to shareholders compared to equity which is mean with dividends.

Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#615 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2022 2:12:35 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
My 2 cents wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
watesh wrote:
With that tiny payout ratio, I hope they are acquiring a major bank in DRC
At 2x what Equity paid.
Mwangi > Oigara

Mwangi: Significant shareholder, salary is lower for the same performance, organic growth (not government supported), looks for bargains.
Oigara: Token, 200-300mn, GoK favoritism, pays more.


Your hatred towards KCB waah.
Equity also got government support during the NARC and Grand coalition regime which propelled it's growth.
How sure are you they will pay 2x what Equity paid.
Meanwhile KCB shareholders continue to enjoy the consistent dividend,Equity is very mean when it comes to dividends and even took shareholders on a two year drought without dividend.
FY2021 results not yet out,might be a third year.

Most banks grew during the Kibaki 1 era.

Equity did very well taking business from Barclays and Stanchart that abandoned Kenyans pale mashinani. I heard that Stanchart is closing the Kiambu branch which had been around for decades!

Equity has NEVER had a Rights Issue since it listed - it only raised money once when it sold 25% to Helios. KCB has had multiple.

KCB has only significantly (as a % of total assets) grown its balance sheet in KE.
Very small business elsewhere (vs Equity) where it doesn't have GoK's support.


Beware that KCB (like Safaricom) does not become one of your investing 'misses'. At least hedge your anti- KCB position by buying a few.


@vvs prefers buying DTB
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#616 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2022 9:18:50 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
KCB analyst call;

1. On the new digital lending act:

"We welcome the digital lending acts. Would be net positive for banks and our mobile loans as these are already regulated. It levels the playing field."

On a Green bond:

"Not a priority this year. Maybe 2023"

2. On the low dividend payout ratio of 28% for FY 2021:

"We want to be at the 40-45% ratio, but our focus this year is on growth of our organic and inorganic portfolio. We will be back there soon. "
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#617 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2022 10:56:32 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
My 2 cents wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
watesh wrote:
With that tiny payout ratio, I hope they are acquiring a major bank in DRC
At 2x what Equity paid.
Mwangi > Oigara

Mwangi: Significant shareholder, salary is lower for the same performance, organic growth (not government supported), looks for bargains.
Oigara: Token, 200-300mn, GoK favoritism, pays more.


Your hatred towards KCB waah.
Equity also got government support during the NARC and Grand coalition regime which propelled it's growth.
How sure are you they will pay 2x what Equity paid.
Meanwhile KCB shareholders continue to enjoy the consistent dividend,Equity is very mean when it comes to dividends and even took shareholders on a two year drought without dividend.
FY2021 results not yet out,might be a third year.

Most banks grew during the Kibaki 1 era.

Equity did very well taking business from Barclays and Stanchart that abandoned Kenyans pale mashinani. I heard that Stanchart is closing the Kiambu branch which had been around for decades!

Equity has NEVER had a Rights Issue since it listed - it only raised money once when it sold 25% to Helios. KCB has had multiple.

KCB has only significantly (as a % of total assets) grown its balance sheet in KE.
Very small business elsewhere (vs Equity) where it doesn't have GoK's support.


Beware that KCB (like Safaricom) does not become one of your investing 'misses'. At least hedge your anti- KCB position by buying a few.
Equity > KCB for years. I see much better prospects for Equity. Did you see/watch the FY21 results and discussion?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#618 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2022 11:02:37 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
watesh wrote:
With that tiny payout ratio, I hope they are acquiring a major bank in DRC
At 2x what Equity paid.
Mwangi > Oigara

Mwangi: Significant shareholder, salary is lower for the same performance, organic growth (not government supported), looks for bargains.
Oigara: Token, 200-300mn, GoK favoritism, pays more.


Your hatred towards KCB waah.
Equity also got government support during the NARC and Grand coalition regime which propelled it's growth.
How sure are you they will pay 2x what Equity paid.
Meanwhile KCB shareholders continue to enjoy the consistent dividend,Equity is very mean when it comes to dividends and even took shareholders on a two year drought without dividend.
FY2021 results not yet out,might be a third year.

Most banks grew during the Kibaki 1 era.

Equity did very well taking business from Barclays and Stanchart that abandoned Kenyans pale mashinani. I heard that Stanchart is closing the Kiambu branch which had been around for decades!

Equity has NEVER had a Rights Issue since it listed - it only raised money once when it sold 25% to Helios. KCB has had multiple.

KCB has only significantly (as a % of total assets) grown its balance sheet in KE.
Very small business elsewhere (vs Equity) where it doesn't have GoK's support.


Beware that KCB (like Safaricom) does not become one of your investing 'misses'. At least hedge your anti- KCB position by buying a few.


@vvs prefers buying DTB
I am a Value Investor.
Equity is cheaper than KCB on a (future) growth basis.
DTB needs to pull its socks up.

If I had the cash I would rather buy Equity (low PER and higher growth), SCBK (high DPR, DY) and DTB (low PER/PB) over KCB.

We can compare Total Returns for each in April 2027.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#619 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2022 11:54:11 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
watesh wrote:
With that tiny payout ratio, I hope they are acquiring a major bank in DRC
At 2x what Equity paid.
Mwangi > Oigara

Mwangi: Significant shareholder, salary is lower for the same performance, organic growth (not government supported), looks for bargains.
Oigara: Token, 200-300mn, GoK favoritism, pays more.


Your hatred towards KCB waah.
Equity also got government support during the NARC and Grand coalition regime which propelled it's growth.
How sure are you they will pay 2x what Equity paid.
Meanwhile KCB shareholders continue to enjoy the consistent dividend,Equity is very mean when it comes to dividends and even took shareholders on a two year drought without dividend.
FY2021 results not yet out,might be a third year.

Most banks grew during the Kibaki 1 era.

Equity did very well taking business from Barclays and Stanchart that abandoned Kenyans pale mashinani. I heard that Stanchart is closing the Kiambu branch which had been around for decades!

Equity has NEVER had a Rights Issue since it listed - it only raised money once when it sold 25% to Helios. KCB has had multiple.

KCB has only significantly (as a % of total assets) grown its balance sheet in KE.
Very small business elsewhere (vs Equity) where it doesn't have GoK's support.


Beware that KCB (like Safaricom) does not become one of your investing 'misses'. At least hedge your anti- KCB position by buying a few.
Equity > KCB for years. I see much better prospects for Equity. Did you see/watch the FY21 results and discussion?


KCB reduces Loan Loss provisions by 52.2% from ksh.27bn to ksh.12.9bn
Equity reduces Loan Loss provisions by 78% from ksh.26bn to ksh.5.8bn.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#620 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2022 12:14:55 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
watesh wrote:
With that tiny payout ratio, I hope they are acquiring a major bank in DRC
At 2x what Equity paid.
Mwangi > Oigara

Mwangi: Significant shareholder, salary is lower for the same performance, organic growth (not government supported), looks for bargains.
Oigara: Token, 200-300mn, GoK favoritism, pays more.


Your hatred towards KCB waah.
Equity also got government support during the NARC and Grand coalition regime which propelled it's growth.
How sure are you they will pay 2x what Equity paid.
Meanwhile KCB shareholders continue to enjoy the consistent dividend,Equity is very mean when it comes to dividends and even took shareholders on a two year drought without dividend.
FY2021 results not yet out,might be a third year.

Most banks grew during the Kibaki 1 era.

Equity did very well taking business from Barclays and Stanchart that abandoned Kenyans pale mashinani. I heard that Stanchart is closing the Kiambu branch which had been around for decades!

Equity has NEVER had a Rights Issue since it listed - it only raised money once when it sold 25% to Helios. KCB has had multiple.

KCB has only significantly (as a % of total assets) grown its balance sheet in KE.
Very small business elsewhere (vs Equity) where it doesn't have GoK's support.


Beware that KCB (like Safaricom) does not become one of your investing 'misses'. At least hedge your anti- KCB position by buying a few.


@vvs prefers buying DTB
I am a Value Investor.
Equity is cheaper than KCB on a (future) growth basis.
DTB needs to pull its socks up.

If I had the cash I would rather buy Equity (low PER and higher growth), SCBK (high DPR, DY) and DTB (low PER/PB) over KCB.

We can compare Total Returns for each in April 2027.


Looking at cash returns KCB will give a better return in terms of dividend payout than Equity.
DTB over KCB that is madness,KCB will beat DTB pants down 18 nil.
Let's compare in 2027.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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